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On March 14 2015 06:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 06:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:29 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 nafta wrote: tsm plays in na aka is an na team.Don't get how are they not one lol. Koreuropeans mang. On March 14 2015 06:25 chosenkerrigan wrote:On March 14 2015 06:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:
whoever the fuck thought TSM was going to lose to WE (LOLOLOLOL) is delusional and deserves to have their opinions disqualified
. It really wasn't that farfetched lol, it was well within the realm of possibility as we saw in the game, and this is literally the FIRST GAME this roster ever played. First game. Ever. Ninja/Styz probably could've won vs. TSM lol. i call straight-up farfetched; 1-8-6 in their region, with 2 new players on their roster, all of this known before going into Katowice pls Against way harder competition. They play against Cool, Pawn, Uzi, Deft, Kryst4l whereas TSM plays against avalon. Not to say WE is stronger than TSM, but that game was definitely a lot closer than a lot of expected. Which indicates NOTHING. If they won against aforementioned players, then sure, that indicates something. Losing against them indicates nothing. But...they did. They're 1-8-6 not 0-15-0... i should clarify: consistently; worse teams take games off good teams all the time (see: Worlds) Exactly so why is it farfetched that WE take a game off TSM lol. pretty heavily favored for TSM, and would be "an upset", to the same degree as C9 beating GET (well, maybe TSM beating GET) how someone could predict WE to beat TSM as the most likely scenario is beyond me Whereas: TSM vs CJ was favored for CJ, but not lopsidedly so (vs GET absolutely so)
Should be an upset, but definitely not the same degree as C9 beating GET..more like Flash Wolves beats SK level of upset.
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On March 14 2015 06:34 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 06:34 AlterKot wrote:On March 14 2015 06:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:29 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 nafta wrote: tsm plays in na aka is an na team.Don't get how are they not one lol. Koreuropeans mang. On March 14 2015 06:25 chosenkerrigan wrote:On March 14 2015 06:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:
whoever the fuck thought TSM was going to lose to WE (LOLOLOLOL) is delusional and deserves to have their opinions disqualified
. It really wasn't that farfetched lol, it was well within the realm of possibility as we saw in the game, and this is literally the FIRST GAME this roster ever played. First game. Ever. Ninja/Styz probably could've won vs. TSM lol. i call straight-up farfetched; 1-8-6 in their region, with 2 new players on their roster, all of this known before going into Katowice pls Against way harder competition. They play against Cool, Pawn, Uzi, Deft, Kryst4l whereas TSM plays against avalon. Not to say WE is stronger than TSM, but that game was definitely a lot closer than a lot of expected. Which indicates NOTHING. If they won against aforementioned players, then sure, that indicates something. Losing against them indicates nothing. But...they did. They're 1-8-6 not 0-15-0... i should clarify: consistently; worse teams take games off good teams all the time (see: Worlds) Exactly so why is it farfetched that WE take a game off TSM lol. Because LPL shows that there's a large gap between top and bottom teams and IEM last year shown that bottom LPL teams are pretty bad. This roster was an uknown, last roster had every reason to be considered a huge underdog. LPL shows nothing like that, lol. That's why more than half of games in regular season is 1-1 and then favourites choke in playoffs all the time unless you're EDG. Except the higher team wins in dominant fasion and lower in a very close game. Also we're not speaking about 4th team versus 8th team, we're talking about WE that is fucking 11th or whatever.
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
TP Diana, GG WE, you never learn.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 14 2015 06:37 AlterKot wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 06:34 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On March 14 2015 06:34 AlterKot wrote:On March 14 2015 06:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:29 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 nafta wrote: tsm plays in na aka is an na team.Don't get how are they not one lol. Koreuropeans mang. On March 14 2015 06:25 chosenkerrigan wrote:On March 14 2015 06:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: [quote]
It really wasn't that farfetched lol, it was well within the realm of possibility as we saw in the game, and this is literally the FIRST GAME this roster ever played. First game. Ever. Ninja/Styz probably could've won vs. TSM lol. i call straight-up farfetched; 1-8-6 in their region, with 2 new players on their roster, all of this known before going into Katowice pls Against way harder competition. They play against Cool, Pawn, Uzi, Deft, Kryst4l whereas TSM plays against avalon. Not to say WE is stronger than TSM, but that game was definitely a lot closer than a lot of expected. Which indicates NOTHING. If they won against aforementioned players, then sure, that indicates something. Losing against them indicates nothing. But...they did. They're 1-8-6 not 0-15-0... i should clarify: consistently; worse teams take games off good teams all the time (see: Worlds) Exactly so why is it farfetched that WE take a game off TSM lol. Because LPL shows that there's a large gap between top and bottom teams and IEM last year shown that bottom LPL teams are pretty bad. This roster was an uknown, last roster had every reason to be considered a huge underdog. LPL shows nothing like that, lol. That's why more than half of games in regular season is 1-1 and then favourites choke in playoffs all the time unless you're EDG. Except the higher team wins in dominant fasion and lower in a very close game. Also we're not speaking about 4th team versus 8th team, we're talking about WE that is fucking 11th or whatever.
Are we seriously judging teams by speed of their wins nowdays.
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On March 14 2015 06:37 chosenkerrigan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 06:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:29 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 nafta wrote: tsm plays in na aka is an na team.Don't get how are they not one lol. Koreuropeans mang. On March 14 2015 06:25 chosenkerrigan wrote:On March 14 2015 06:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:
whoever the fuck thought TSM was going to lose to WE (LOLOLOLOL) is delusional and deserves to have their opinions disqualified
. It really wasn't that farfetched lol, it was well within the realm of possibility as we saw in the game, and this is literally the FIRST GAME this roster ever played. First game. Ever. Ninja/Styz probably could've won vs. TSM lol. i call straight-up farfetched; 1-8-6 in their region, with 2 new players on their roster, all of this known before going into Katowice pls Against way harder competition. They play against Cool, Pawn, Uzi, Deft, Kryst4l whereas TSM plays against avalon. Not to say WE is stronger than TSM, but that game was definitely a lot closer than a lot of expected. Which indicates NOTHING. If they won against aforementioned players, then sure, that indicates something. Losing against them indicates nothing. But...they did. They're 1-8-6 not 0-15-0... i should clarify: consistently; worse teams take games off good teams all the time (see: Worlds) Exactly so why is it farfetched that WE take a game off TSM lol. pretty heavily favored for TSM, and would be "an upset", to the same degree as C9 beating GET (well, maybe TSM beating GET) how someone could predict WE to beat TSM as the most likely scenario is beyond me Whereas: TSM vs CJ was favored for CJ, but not lopsidedly so (vs GET absolutely so) Should be an upset, but definitely not the same degree as C9 beating GET..more like Flash Wolves beats SK level of upset. eh, I rate FlashWolves higher than most (their first game vs SK was clearly nerves). Probably closer to Gambit beating CJ
On March 14 2015 06:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 06:37 AlterKot wrote:On March 14 2015 06:34 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On March 14 2015 06:34 AlterKot wrote:On March 14 2015 06:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:29 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 nafta wrote: tsm plays in na aka is an na team.Don't get how are they not one lol. Koreuropeans mang. On March 14 2015 06:25 chosenkerrigan wrote:On March 14 2015 06:24 Lord Tolkien wrote: [quote] i call straight-up farfetched; 1-8-6 in their region, with 2 new players on their roster, all of this known before going into Katowice
pls Against way harder competition. They play against Cool, Pawn, Uzi, Deft, Kryst4l whereas TSM plays against avalon. Not to say WE is stronger than TSM, but that game was definitely a lot closer than a lot of expected. Which indicates NOTHING. If they won against aforementioned players, then sure, that indicates something. Losing against them indicates nothing. But...they did. They're 1-8-6 not 0-15-0... i should clarify: consistently; worse teams take games off good teams all the time (see: Worlds) Exactly so why is it farfetched that WE take a game off TSM lol. Because LPL shows that there's a large gap between top and bottom teams and IEM last year shown that bottom LPL teams are pretty bad. This roster was an uknown, last roster had every reason to be considered a huge underdog. LPL shows nothing like that, lol. That's why more than half of games in regular season is 1-1 and then favourites choke in playoffs all the time unless you're EDG. Except the higher team wins in dominant fasion and lower in a very close game. Also we're not speaking about 4th team versus 8th team, we're talking about WE that is fucking 11th or whatever. Are we seriously judging teams by speed of their wins nowdays. CLG.eu was worst team world
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Jokes aside. Spirit got Rek'Sai. Is it miracle.
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Betsy TF again
Nooooooooooooooo
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Kinda worried with that Betsy TF pick.
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this should be a close match, I'll be interested to see
lol, tf again, nvm
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On March 14 2015 06:39 739 wrote: TP Diana, GG WE, you never learn.
I don't really see what's so bad about it.
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Betsy just pick fucking Ahri.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
I am loving all the Diana picks!
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Really baffled by Xiye.
Looks like the SoloQ teams gonna go ham at each other.
On March 14 2015 06:41 Ansibled wrote:I don't really see what's so bad about it.
It's a bit silly here since TF is just gonna farm for free. Unless the TPs are much better than the TSM game, it's gonna be a bad choice.
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GOD FUCKING DAMN IT TSM WHY.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Aluka just needs to channel pwny spirit of another struggler, AmazingJ and WE got it.
GO WORLD ELITE
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My Princess Diana, you're more alive than she'll ever be. This is just the way I play Diana with teleport/flash. So excited for this game!
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Betsy could have gone Ahri.
They could've sent Morg to support and last picked Irelia at least
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Baa?21244 Posts
Well if teams play similar to their first games this should be a lot of kilsl and teamfighting lol.
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On March 14 2015 06:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 06:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:29 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:25 nafta wrote: tsm plays in na aka is an na team.Don't get how are they not one lol. Koreuropeans mang. On March 14 2015 06:25 chosenkerrigan wrote:On March 14 2015 06:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:On March 14 2015 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 14 2015 06:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:
whoever the fuck thought TSM was going to lose to WE (LOLOLOLOL) is delusional and deserves to have their opinions disqualified
. It really wasn't that farfetched lol, it was well within the realm of possibility as we saw in the game, and this is literally the FIRST GAME this roster ever played. First game. Ever. Ninja/Styz probably could've won vs. TSM lol. i call straight-up farfetched; 1-8-6 in their region, with 2 new players on their roster, all of this known before going into Katowice pls Against way harder competition. They play against Cool, Pawn, Uzi, Deft, Kryst4l whereas TSM plays against avalon. Not to say WE is stronger than TSM, but that game was definitely a lot closer than a lot of expected. Which indicates NOTHING. If they won against aforementioned players, then sure, that indicates something. Losing against them indicates nothing. But...they did. They're 1-8-6 not 0-15-0... i should clarify: consistently; worse teams take games off good teams all the time (see: Worlds) Exactly so why is it farfetched that WE take a game off TSM lol. pretty heavily favored for TSM, and would be "an upset", to the same degree as C9 beating GET (well, maybe TSM beating GET) how someone could predict WE to beat TSM as the most likely scenario is beyond me Whereas: TSM vs CJ was favored for CJ, but not lopsidedly so (vs GET absolutely so) Which would make it an upset and a surprise, exactly the thing you were arguing against earlier.
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