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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
March 13 2015 21:22 GMT
#1821
On March 14 2015 06:20 Slaughter wrote:
ZionSpartan is in it too.


Oh shit I see him now. But still.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
March 13 2015 21:22 GMT
#1822
On March 14 2015 06:19 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 06:16 Mikau wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:06 Mikau wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:05 Mikau wrote:
...TSM just beat CJ.


this is surprising?

Are you serious? Top 3 team in Korea just got beat by white guys.

Yes, that's surprising.

lol

unless they exhibit the same kind of dominance GET displays, you shouldn't be surprised at all

History heavily disagrees with you. Historically NA gets stomped by Koreans and I don't think anybody expected TSM to get first in this group going into this. Hell, a lot of the people here thought they'd lose to WE and go out last.


I've never really been a TSM fan but I think they look pretty solid. Not "one of the best teams in the world" solid but still good enough to put up a show in worlds if they continue this trend.
Excited to see how they do vs. truly world class teams like GET and EDG though.

Oh I agree, this is the most solid they've looked since I started watching LoL (end s2 I think?).
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
March 13 2015 21:23 GMT
#1823
On March 14 2015 06:18 AlterKot wrote:
ok fuck it SK WILL DUMPSTER YFW AND TSM SO HARD THAT PEOPLE WILL BEG SVEN TO CALL HIMSELF TCC


Bwahahaha

You've embraced the dark trash talking fanboy in your heart

I like it
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
March 13 2015 21:23 GMT
#1824
On March 14 2015 06:20 JonGalt wrote:
Yo wtf is up with DoubleLift being in this "I'm a gamer" commercial with a bunch of randos? Am I just an ignorant fool who doesn't recognize LITERALLY anyone else but liftlift??

I also recognize Alex Valle and Gootecks from the fighting game community and I think some of them are youtubers/streamers, but mostly blank faces to me.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 21:24:18
March 13 2015 21:23 GMT
#1825
On March 14 2015 06:21 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 06:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:16 Mikau wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:06 Mikau wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:05 Mikau wrote:
...TSM just beat CJ.


this is surprising?

Are you serious? Top 3 team in Korea just got beat by white guys.

Yes, that's surprising.

lol

unless they exhibit the same kind of dominance GET displays, you shouldn't be surprised at all

History heavily disagrees with you. Historically NA gets stomped by Koreans and I don't think anybody expected TSM to get first in this group going into this. Hell, a lot of the people here thought they'd lose to WE and go out last.

who the fuck gives a crap about historically when it has no bearing on current performance lol

whoever the fuck thought TSM was going to lose to WE (LOLOLOLOL) is delusional and deserves to have their opinions disqualified


Seriously, WE is a 10th place CN team.

If TSM never beats good Korean teams historically and they then go on to beat a good Korean team then that's an upset.

Read back in this thread, tally up predictions. I doubt you'll find anyone who seriously thought TSM would win this group. Pretty much all predictions ranged from 4th to 2nd. You can say this isn't an upset all you want, but both the facts and the majority's opinion disagree with you.


I always knew TSM was gonna come out first.

TSM vs GE in the finals ezpz.

Wouldn't be surprised to see them 3-0 GE np.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 13 2015 21:24 GMT
#1826
On March 14 2015 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 06:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:

whoever the fuck thought TSM was going to lose to WE (LOLOLOLOL) is delusional and deserves to have their opinions disqualified

.


It really wasn't that farfetched lol, it was well within the realm of possibility as we saw in the game, and this is literally the FIRST GAME this roster ever played. First game. Ever. Ninja/Styz probably could've won vs. TSM lol.

i call straight-up farfetched; 1-8-6 in their region, with 2 new players on their roster, all of this known before going into Katowice


pls
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
March 13 2015 21:24 GMT
#1827
ITT: People consider TSM a NA team.

The only true NA team is C9 and they got dumpstered.
#1 Kloggmosexual | Gambit 4 lyfe! | DiamondGOD | #iBelieve
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 13 2015 21:24 GMT
#1828
On March 14 2015 06:20 JonGalt wrote:
Yo wtf is up with DoubleLift being in this "I'm a gamer" commercial with a bunch of randos? Am I just an ignorant fool who doesn't recognize LITERALLY anyone else but liftlift??


Your an ignorant fool

I know 4 people in that commercial. Freddiew, Niko, Sam, and Doublelift
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#1829
On March 14 2015 06:24 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
ITT: People consider TSM a NA team.

The only true NA team is C9 and they got dumpstered.

that's the proper response!
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#1830
tsm plays in na aka is an na team.Don't get how are they not one lol.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
March 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#1831
GE vs CJ and TSM vs SK are the semifinals I'm now rooting for

739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
March 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#1832
Someone pls tell Quickshot to stop talking that much.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#1833
On March 14 2015 06:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:

whoever the fuck thought TSM was going to lose to WE (LOLOLOLOL) is delusional and deserves to have their opinions disqualified

.


It really wasn't that farfetched lol, it was well within the realm of possibility as we saw in the game, and this is literally the FIRST GAME this roster ever played. First game. Ever. Ninja/Styz probably could've won vs. TSM lol.

i call straight-up farfetched; 1-8-6 in their region, with 2 new players on their roster, all of this known before going into Katowice


pls


Yea but did you actually watch the game, it was far from farfetched.
TranslatorBaa!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#1834
On March 14 2015 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 06:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:

whoever the fuck thought TSM was going to lose to WE (LOLOLOLOL) is delusional and deserves to have their opinions disqualified

.


It really wasn't that farfetched lol, it was well within the realm of possibility as we saw in the game, and this is literally the FIRST GAME this roster ever played. First game. Ever. Ninja/Styz probably could've won vs. TSM lol.

But they didn't.
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
March 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#1835
On March 14 2015 06:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:

whoever the fuck thought TSM was going to lose to WE (LOLOLOLOL) is delusional and deserves to have their opinions disqualified

.


It really wasn't that farfetched lol, it was well within the realm of possibility as we saw in the game, and this is literally the FIRST GAME this roster ever played. First game. Ever. Ninja/Styz probably could've won vs. TSM lol.

i call straight-up farfetched; 1-8-6 in their region, with 2 new players on their roster, all of this known before going into Katowice


pls


Against way harder competition. They play against Cool, Pawn, Uzi, Deft, Kryst4l whereas TSM plays against avalon. Not to say WE is stronger than TSM, but that game was definitely a lot closer than a lot of expected.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 21:28:49
March 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#1836
On March 14 2015 06:25 nafta wrote:
tsm plays in na aka is an na team.Don't get how are they not one lol.

Koreuropeans mang.

On March 14 2015 06:25 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 06:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 14 2015 06:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:

whoever the fuck thought TSM was going to lose to WE (LOLOLOLOL) is delusional and deserves to have their opinions disqualified

.


It really wasn't that farfetched lol, it was well within the realm of possibility as we saw in the game, and this is literally the FIRST GAME this roster ever played. First game. Ever. Ninja/Styz probably could've won vs. TSM lol.

i call straight-up farfetched; 1-8-6 in their region, with 2 new players on their roster, all of this known before going into Katowice


pls


Against way harder competition. They play against Cool, Pawn, Uzi, Deft, Kryst4l whereas TSM plays against avalon. Not to say WE is stronger than TSM, but that game was definitely a lot closer than a lot of expected.

Which indicates NOTHING.

If they won against aforementioned players, then sure, that indicates something. Losing against them indicates nothing.

Also correction: WE were the 12th team in the LPL. dead last

like seriously?
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
March 13 2015 21:26 GMT
#1837
Well TSM did take a game off SSW last year (as well as going 1-1 vs SHR) so not like they have never beat Koreans and Chinese teams.
Never Knows Best.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
March 13 2015 21:26 GMT
#1838
TSM was formed in NA, practices on NA servers against NA teams and competes in league for NA teams only. Bjergsen played in NA longer than he did in Europe.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 21:28:44
March 13 2015 21:26 GMT
#1839
On March 14 2015 06:24 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
ITT: People consider TSM a NA team.

The only true NA team is C9 and they got dumpstered.


You know infrastructure and coaching are what makes KR KR, right

It's just silly rivalries and pedantry at this point.

XDG Mata
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
March 13 2015 21:27 GMT
#1840
On March 14 2015 06:24 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
ITT: People consider TSM a NA team.

The only true NA team is C9 and they got dumpstered.

Just like how Real Madrid is a Spanish team despite having players from all over the world or Chelsea is an English team despite having nearly no English players, TSM is a NA team.

Organisation based in NA playing in the NA Competition. NA Team.
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