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crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
March 14 2015 21:18 GMT
#3441
On March 15 2015 06:18 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:13 Canucklehead wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:13 kongoline wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:09 Canucklehead wrote:
Wow thanks riot for killing the korean lol scene! That 10-0 ogn record doesn't look impressive anymore. It just tells you that they're beating up on weak competition now and that they don't hold a candle to the past samsung teams or skt. China the new lol overlords!!

can somebody explain how did riot kill korean lol ?


Their new rules about no 2 teams. It caused samsung to kill themselves and had ripple effect throughout all the other teams and caused the mass exodus of koreans leaving for china. Riot was tired of seeing the koreans dominate and this was their solution to weaken them! They cut korea out from their knees by forcing changes on them when they were doing things 1 way since the inception of lol in korea.


Nah, with the money China was offering Korean players plus not controlling every part of their lives, talent flight was inevitable.

I think it's both. Money and 1-team requirement.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
March 14 2015 21:19 GMT
#3442
On March 15 2015 06:15 TheYango wrote:
Firebathero's coaching will reinvent the team.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 21:19:47
March 14 2015 21:19 GMT
#3443
Kakao and rookie left before the rule was even implemented, the exodus was incoming anyway. Kakao now gets to go to big billionaire parties and hang out with big name popstars. KT can't compete with that lmao.
Glorious SEA doto
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 14 2015 21:19 GMT
#3444
On March 15 2015 06:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:12 Azarkon wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:11 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:08 Redox wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:03 Slusher wrote:
I've had a feeling for a while now that CN might be the stronger region I mean when your best players are mostly players who frankly weren't that great before the exodus that just seems to say the strength of the region has dropped.

that said I never would have predicted it to the tune of worst place > first place.

I think more than anything this win speaks to how truly chuuper like Ninja was

Right. And if TSM beats WE then NA>China>Korea?

Actaully NA is already better than Korea since both Korean teams didnt reach finals while an NA team did.


No. Because WE is still the worst LPL team so far and TSM is the best NA team. TSM wins doesn't prove anything.


WE was the worst LPL team with Ninja and Styz. The new WE is a different team, and has replaced its previously lackluster carries.

lol, no. WE is still trash.


Even the old WE was not complete trash. They did take games and even Bo2s off of top LPL teams. The new carries are obvious improvements over the old ones in their willingness to make plays and not just settle for mediocrity.

Mind you, I personally believe the main change was Korean competitiveness, and that had GE made it to the finals, they'd have also been exposed by TSM. I don't believe Bjergsen is going to lose to Xiye the way Kuro lost two games in a row, for example. The Korean decline is pretty obvious when you look at the performance of CJ and GE.
emraaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany505 Posts
March 14 2015 21:20 GMT
#3445
On March 15 2015 06:16 419 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:13 crimethinking wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:13 kongoline wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:09 Canucklehead wrote:
Wow thanks riot for killing the korean lol scene! That 10-0 ogn record doesn't look impressive anymore. It just tells you that they're beating up on weak competition now and that they don't hold a candle to the past samsung teams or skt. China the new lol overlords!!

can somebody explain how did riot kill korean lol ?

Each org is only allowed 1 team from the 2015 season onwards. The whole infrastructure of Korea is based on org having at least 2 sister teams to scrim, train and discuss, basically do everything together. So talents have to be benched or flee.

I'm not sure that being allowed sister teams would have stopped the exodus of the (top-level) talent, at the very least..

The LCS team weren't allowed to have 2 teams since the beginning anyway
Sure as the dust that floats high and true, when movin through kashmir
crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
March 14 2015 21:20 GMT
#3446
Azarkon making sense here.

This fucking world doesn't make any sense anymore. I give up.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 14 2015 21:21 GMT
#3447
On March 15 2015 06:20 emraaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:16 419 wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:13 crimethinking wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:13 kongoline wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:09 Canucklehead wrote:
Wow thanks riot for killing the korean lol scene! That 10-0 ogn record doesn't look impressive anymore. It just tells you that they're beating up on weak competition now and that they don't hold a candle to the past samsung teams or skt. China the new lol overlords!!

can somebody explain how did riot kill korean lol ?

Each org is only allowed 1 team from the 2015 season onwards. The whole infrastructure of Korea is based on org having at least 2 sister teams to scrim, train and discuss, basically do everything together. So talents have to be benched or flee.

I'm not sure that being allowed sister teams would have stopped the exodus of the (top-level) talent, at the very least..

The LCS team weren't allowed to have 2 teams since the beginning anyway


LCS don't have talent to fill 10 teams in league, lol, why bother speaking about having 20.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 14 2015 21:21 GMT
#3448
On March 15 2015 06:20 crimethinking wrote:
Azarkon making sense here.

This fucking world doesn't make any sense anymore. I give up.

How does that koolaid taste?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 14 2015 21:21 GMT
#3449
The sign that people should have seen for a good time coming was that SKTS + Bengi with a dash of Faker is the 2nd best team in Korea.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 14 2015 21:22 GMT
#3450
On March 15 2015 06:20 emraaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:16 419 wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:13 crimethinking wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:13 kongoline wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:09 Canucklehead wrote:
Wow thanks riot for killing the korean lol scene! That 10-0 ogn record doesn't look impressive anymore. It just tells you that they're beating up on weak competition now and that they don't hold a candle to the past samsung teams or skt. China the new lol overlords!!

can somebody explain how did riot kill korean lol ?

Each org is only allowed 1 team from the 2015 season onwards. The whole infrastructure of Korea is based on org having at least 2 sister teams to scrim, train and discuss, basically do everything together. So talents have to be benched or flee.

I'm not sure that being allowed sister teams would have stopped the exodus of the (top-level) talent, at the very least..

The LCS team weren't allowed to have 2 teams since the beginning anyway


Apples and oranges. Korea had the talent pool and infrastructure to support 2 teams. NA teams didn't. Korea were full grown adults when it came to this stuff, while the NA lol teams were babies in comparisons and just starting out.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 21:22:34
March 14 2015 21:22 GMT
#3451
either this is the biggest confluence of freak accidents or everything i know about competitive league is wrong
?
crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
March 14 2015 21:22 GMT
#3452
On March 15 2015 06:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:20 crimethinking wrote:
Azarkon making sense here.

This fucking world doesn't make any sense anymore. I give up.

How does that koolaid taste?

The Jonestown incident was on my fucking birthday. Eerie.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 14 2015 21:23 GMT
#3453
On March 15 2015 06:22 419 wrote:
either this is the biggest confluence of freak accidents or everything i know about competitive league is wrong

You know nothing, 419.

Apparently neither does the rest of us.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 14 2015 21:23 GMT
#3454
On March 15 2015 06:21 Gahlo wrote:
The sign that people should have seen for a good time coming was that SKTS + Bengi with a dash of Faker is the 2nd best team in Korea.


as soon as Space was considered "good" I knew something was wrong
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 14 2015 21:24 GMT
#3455
On March 15 2015 06:18 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 06:13 Canucklehead wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:13 kongoline wrote:
On March 15 2015 06:09 Canucklehead wrote:
Wow thanks riot for killing the korean lol scene! That 10-0 ogn record doesn't look impressive anymore. It just tells you that they're beating up on weak competition now and that they don't hold a candle to the past samsung teams or skt. China the new lol overlords!!

can somebody explain how did riot kill korean lol ?


Their new rules about no 2 teams. It caused samsung to kill themselves and had ripple effect throughout all the other teams and caused the mass exodus of koreans leaving for china. Riot was tired of seeing the koreans dominate and this was their solution to weaken them! They cut korea out from their knees by forcing changes on them when they were doing things 1 way since the inception of lol in korea.

No, players left Korea because they were offered good money as opposed to the KESPA teams fucking them. Simple as that.

Lies, it's because China has superior golf courses.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 14 2015 21:24 GMT
#3456
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2z21rt/spoilers_inven_reactions_to_get_vs_we/
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 14 2015 21:25 GMT
#3457
On March 15 2015 06:22 419 wrote:
either this is the biggest confluence of freak accidents or everything i know about competitive league is wrong


You're just witnessing the first proof of the downfall of korean lol. China is now the heavy favourites to win world's this year.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
March 14 2015 21:25 GMT
#3458
On March 15 2015 06:24 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2z21rt/spoilers_inven_reactions_to_get_vs_we/

"Instead of worrying about uniforms, they should come back to KR and practice lots to keep first place~"

ahahahahahahahahahahaha
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
March 14 2015 21:25 GMT
#3459
"Yasuo is science".

Guys, we got a new meme here.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 14 2015 21:26 GMT
#3460
On March 15 2015 06:24 Gahlo wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2z21rt/spoilers_inven_reactions_to_get_vs_we/

"Yasuo is science"

I liked this one.
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