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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 12:08:58
April 17 2015 12:07 GMT
#2381
I just want to observe that all semifinalists in LPL have 2/5 Koreans.

The imports did not necessarily put China above Korea given what Deft and Pawn said in the interview, but it did pay dividends, albeit with 9/12 teams doing it, it came down to who had the best import+local synergy.

In LoL, communication looks to be less important than raw individual skill. Of course, a team with both communication and individual skill is bound to outperform, but when picking between the two, individual skill trumps communication.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
April 17 2015 12:21 GMT
#2382
So much for that superteam

Imp confirmed realest carry of SSW
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 17 2015 14:11 GMT
#2383
On April 17 2015 21:07 Azarkon wrote:
I just want to observe that all semifinalists in LPL have 2/5 Koreans.

That's not really much of an observation when literally only one team (OMG) without 2/5 Koreans was ever in contention for being semifinalists.
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chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 14:32:40
April 17 2015 14:11 GMT
#2384
On April 17 2015 21:07 Azarkon wrote:
I just want to observe that all semifinalists in LPL have 2/5 Koreans.

The imports did not necessarily put China above Korea given what Deft and Pawn said in the interview, but it did pay dividends, albeit with 9/12 teams doing it, it came down to who had the best import+local synergy.

In LoL, communication looks to be less important than raw individual skill. Of course, a team with both communication and individual skill is bound to outperform, but when picking between the two, individual skill trumps communication.


All semifinalists have 2/5 KR is not that surprising, especially considering those teams who have the money to import elite Koreans tend to have better Chinese players as well. They most likely also have better infrastructure and management thanks to the substantial funding.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 17 2015 14:13 GMT
#2385
On April 17 2015 20:35 DarkCore wrote:
Wasn't TBQ supposed to be the weak link in LGD? He seemed to have had a pretty good series.

Props to LGD, they dominated the series, it wasn't even a competition.

TBQ was never actually the weak link, he was just easier to scapegoat than Flame (who IS the actual weak link) because fans/netizens love Flame.

TBQ could better be described as "invisible"--never good nor bad enough to stand out.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
April 17 2015 14:57 GMT
#2386
On April 17 2015 23:13 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 20:35 DarkCore wrote:
Wasn't TBQ supposed to be the weak link in LGD? He seemed to have had a pretty good series.

Props to LGD, they dominated the series, it wasn't even a competition.

TBQ was never actually the weak link, he was just easier to scapegoat than Flame (who IS the actual weak link) because fans/netizens love Flame.

TBQ could better be described as "invisible"--never good nor bad enough to stand out.


He used to be real bad and the perception just carried over. He went from negative impact to slight negative/no impact. So net gain~
TranslatorBaa!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 17 2015 14:58 GMT
#2387
How is Wieless/GodV seemingly never punished for Ori picks?
Freeeeeeedom
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 17 2015 15:05 GMT
#2388
On April 17 2015 23:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
He used to be real bad and the perception just carried over. He went from negative impact to slight negative/no impact. So net gain~

I mean, when TBQ was really bad, the team still had Star, so he still probably wasn't the weak link, lol.
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InvaderUK
Profile Joined January 2011
225 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 15:06:23
April 17 2015 15:05 GMT
#2389
my brian told me LGD, my heart told me OMG. never trusting heart again.

apart from for snake vs lgd, snake gogo I baylieve in you
patriarch of the church of howard. may maokai smile upon you.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 17 2015 16:00 GMT
#2390
On April 17 2015 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
How is Wieless/GodV seemingly never punished for Ori picks?


Why should Weiless be punished for Orianna pick, rofl.
It's not like he picks Janna mid or something in 2015.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 17 2015 16:11 GMT
#2391
On April 18 2015 01:00 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
How is Wieless/GodV seemingly never punished for Ori picks?


Why should Weiless be punished for Orianna pick, rofl.
It's not like he picks Janna mid or something in 2015.

Ori isn't the pick you seem to be imagining in 2015. Base damages, mobility, poke are all ways people have been punishing her since the AD and windup changes.
Freeeeeeedom
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
April 17 2015 16:14 GMT
#2392
Orianna is fine after athenes buff...
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 17 2015 16:14 GMT
#2393
On April 18 2015 01:11 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 01:00 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 17 2015 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
How is Wieless/GodV seemingly never punished for Ori picks?


Why should Weiless be punished for Orianna pick, rofl.
It's not like he picks Janna mid or something in 2015.

Ori isn't the pick you seem to be imagining in 2015. Base damages, mobility, poke are all ways people have been punishing her since the AD and windup changes.

What? Does she even have a weak lane matchup? At worst it's a farm lane, I don't see how ori pick is exploitable.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 17 2015 16:36 GMT
#2394
I guess its true, they were banning Leblanc and Ez/Zed/Xerath/Corki aren't great picks right now. Surprised no last pick Ahri from Cool in g2, but who knows.
Freeeeeeedom
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
April 17 2015 17:08 GMT
#2395
Snake vs. LGD who should I be betting on?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 17:21:32
April 17 2015 17:21 GMT
#2396
Dbl post
Freeeeeeedom
Buonomo
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada84 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 18:25:49
April 17 2015 18:10 GMT
#2397
Going back and watching the VoDs atm

So let me get this straight:

In game 1 OMG sets up for a heavy scaling comp with Lulu, Janna, Hec
They see that LGD has an excellent team for midgame teamfighting and early jungle skirmishes with Kennen, Kalista, Nunu, Gnar
They then pick Rengar, a hero who likes to do early skirmishes and midgame teamfights
and Tristana, a heavy scaling hero with a massive midgame power trough

Then they try to skirmish against LGD

????????????????????????????????????

FIRE EVERYONE

Edit: they also did this with Gragas and Kog'maw being open

FIRE EVEN MORE PEOPLE

Edit2: the fucking 2 item Trist jumps into the 2 item Kalista

nice

go farm an open side lane Uzi, its the only thing you're good at
kebab removes you
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 17 2015 18:11 GMT
#2398
On April 18 2015 02:08 LimpingGoat wrote:
Snake vs. LGD who should I be betting on?

Snake, never not Snake.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 17 2015 18:21 GMT
#2399
On April 18 2015 03:10 Buonomo wrote:
Going back and watching the VoDs atm

So let me get this straight:

In game OMG sets up for a heavy scaling comp with Lulu, Janna, Hec
They see that LGD has an excellent team for midgame teamfighting and early jungle skirmishes with Kennen, Kalista, Nunu, Gnar
They then pick Rengar, a hero who likes to do early skirmishes and midgame teamfights
and Tristana, a heavy scaling hero with a massive midgame power trough

Then they try to skirmish against LGD

????????????????????????????????????

FIRE EVERYONE

Edit: they also did this with Gragas and Kog'maw being open

FIRE EVEN MORE PEOPLE

Edit2: the fucking 2 item Trist jumps into the 2 item Kalista

nice

go farm an open side lane UZI, its the only thing you're good at

People thought that OMG were sandbagging. Turns out they really are that dumb, I suppose uzi is just conserving his energy for worlds :>
Glorious SEA doto
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 18:32:57
April 17 2015 18:25 GMT
#2400
On April 17 2015 23:11 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 21:07 Azarkon wrote:
I just want to observe that all semifinalists in LPL have 2/5 Koreans.

That's not really much of an observation when literally only one team (OMG) without 2/5 Koreans was ever in contention for being semifinalists.


Eh, King was hyped up higher than Snake going into the split. Hindsight is 20/20 especially when you consider how the communication issues were said to be a huge variable for how well these teams are going to perform.

Besides, just the fact that all the successful LPL and LSPL teams imported 2/5 Koreans says a lot in and of itself.

Now we just have to see whether the Korea Koreans are still able to monopolize these 2/5 teams. In theory, the exodus ought to have weakened them a lot, and we ought to see other regions be competitive eg what we saw at IEM. But in the event that SKT, CJ, etc. still end up roflstomping through MSI and Worlds, then League outside of Korea is literally hopeless.
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