EPTOn October 07 2014 05:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Manly jaw aesthetics > 3rd place koreans.
Manly jaw aesthetics > 3rd place koreans.
To expand, Watch and Save exposed by Loveling and GoGoing.
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
To expand, Watch and Save exposed by Loveling and GoGoing. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 07 2014 05:31 BrownBear wrote: To expand, Watch and Save exposed by Loveling and GoGoing. For a country that's so known for plastic surgery, you would think they would get some jaw aesthetics to counter the manliness that is gogoing, and lovelin. On October 07 2014 01:32 AsianEcksDragon wrote: All this Korea hate is appalling. All these Western fans cheering for OMG aren't fans of them, they are just Korea haters. Somehow they've forgotten the fact that whoever wins really don't have anything to do with them. It's another Korea vs. China final and their favorite teams are going to be home watching. lol, wtf. are you trying to say koreans hate koreans? cuz the Korean crowd were overwhelmingly cheering for OMG. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On October 07 2014 05:36 wei2coolman wrote: lol, wtf. are you trying to say koreans hate koreans? cuz the Korean crowd were overwhelmingly cheering for OMG. Everyone there was cheering for good games, which they certainly were. Super excited for these semifinals, which is more than I could say last year. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 07 2014 05:45 BrownBear wrote: Everyone there was cheering for good games, which they certainly were. Super excited for these semifinals, which is more than I could say last year. nbs vs skt was a fucking great semifinal match. dat 2-1 black sword lead, into 3-2 skt victory. Definitely with the groups being played out, way more hype, instead of the stupid playoff seeding they had last year. that was so fucking trash. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On October 07 2014 05:52 Fusilero wrote: Najin sword vs SKT K and Royal vs Fnatic were great semis, G4 of royal vs fnatic was the definition of hype. The picks, the throws, the xpeke being broken on whit3zz's knee it had everything. And then awks finals, when even Kassadin wasn't able to salvage. I expect something like that same this time actually, like, both semifinals going to hyped game 5 and then awks finals, when either Samsung just 3-0's. | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On October 07 2014 06:30 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: And then awks finals, when even Kassadin wasn't able to salvage. I expect something same this time actually, like, both semifinals going to hyped game 5 and then awks finals, when either Samsung just 3-0's. Blue vs China can be close, something like 3-1 and White can always go full Ozone and choke, but most likely 3-0 stomp. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On October 07 2014 04:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Considering that LPL made a huge move forward this season in case of English-speaking broadcasts and that basically whole LPL watching community is alive in TL threads with 10~ people, uh. People are not that interested in China in general, this idea that "we're on same level of China anyway, it's basically bracket luck, anyway there is only Korea, others but SEA are tied pretty much" needed to get destroyed, thank God that it happened now and Western regions have things to think. That may sound like a harsh hyperbole, but when I learned that there's an english cast and they have own talk show and they even have two girls, I thought "damn I missed my mark to be a China hipster, everyone's going to be a China fan now". And then I learned that China Talk is watched by 200 people, no pro/analysist watched LPL before Worlds and people actually think that China is a region comparable to EU/NA. Guess it's best moment to get into LPL, because now it's easier than ever, but still pretty small :p | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On October 07 2014 00:18 wei2coolman wrote: dada777 is proof that god can make something even he can't carry. Sometimes wei2coolman gets these nuggets of awesome that people don't appreciate =\ | ||
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cLutZ
United States19569 Posts
On October 07 2014 08:27 AlterKot wrote: That may sound like a harsh hyperbole, but when I learned that there's an english cast and they have own talk show and they even have two girls, I thought "damn I missed my mark to be a China hipster, everyone's going to be a China fan now". And then I learned that China Talk is watched by 200 people, no pro/analysist watched LPL before Worlds and people actually think that China is a region comparable to EU/NA. Guess it's best moment to get into LPL, because now it's easier than ever, but still pretty small :p But, to be fair, the China Shoutcast is like if you took the LCS casters, crossed them with Joe Buck, and somehow made they hyper and boring at once. And Chinatalk is legit bad. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
On October 07 2014 08:27 AlterKot wrote: That may sound like a harsh hyperbole, but when I learned that there's an english cast and they have own talk show and they even have two girls, I thought "damn I missed my mark to be a China hipster, everyone's going to be a China fan now". And then I learned that China Talk is watched by 200 people, no pro/analysist watched LPL before Worlds and people actually think that China is a region comparable to EU/NA. Guess it's best moment to get into LPL, because now it's easier than ever, but still pretty small :p Yeah I started doing the LPL coverage for LoLeventVODs because no one else was interested and I actually found I enjoyed the games. Like someone mentioned before it does often clash with OGN and I can only watch so much LoL in a week (I used to watch every single LCS game but that was ridiculous). | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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ShootAnonymous
1948 Posts
On October 07 2014 03:35 TheYango wrote: Tencent basically took over PLU to do their LPL broadcasting. Which was basically the Chinese equivalent of going to GOM when OGN and MBC exist. EDIT: TBH I think Tencent's decision to stick closer to the LCS model for LPL's production rather than Korea's where Riot Korea more or less lets OGN do their own thing is pretty questionable. China, like Korea, has the benefit of having an Esports infrastructure that could actually support seasonal LAN tournaments without direct intervention (DotA and War3 have both had a history of such tournaments). There was no real reason for Tencent to step in like they have, and doing so has basically suffocated 3rd party tournament organization out of the scene. Thanks for the insight. In a way CN league can't go the way CN DotA has due to the way slots are awarded for World Championships; even KR League still revolves around one major circuit (champions). In fact CN league might still have the most non-regular-league seasonal tournaments in which top-tier teams participate in*: WEC and XCS come to mind immediately, whereas for KR I can only think of Masters. Plus I'm sure there's more CN tournaments except my memory's bad and english league-sites barely cover CN tournaments if at all. Urgh. *I'm only counting tournaments in which teams who're in LPL/OGN/LCS participate in; each region has their own crapton of amateur tournaments. Tournaments like NLB, NACS, LNL and LSPL don't count either since they're attached at the hip to their respective big leagues. International tournaments like IEM don't count as well since well they're international. On October 07 2014 13:29 MattBarry wrote: I'm surprised OMG won 3-0 but come on guys, China isn't suddenly blowing NA/EU out cause they beat a team that got perfect gamed by Alliance. China isn't much better than NA/EU if at all. That said I really want OMG to win this tourney cause they're the last team left that I'm a fan of Easier to crush one game than to whitewash a series. C9 went 1:2 with the same NJWS, ALL went 1:1~ CN's record against EU from the group stages is pretty good too~ (I kid; if OMG hadn't turned up in the form that they did yesterday CN's showing at Worlds would have been pretty darn lackluster. EDG was a disappointment, and definitely didn't show anything to indicate that they were better than -insert western team of choice here-. Royal this year is pretty much same as last year except the Jungle(and to some extent Support) position's weight got shifted to Top & Mid. Whereas NA has shown marked improvement this year. Can't say the same about EU because they had M5/Gambit in the past and Fantic was supposed to do well so to me the region's performance has stagnated somewhat? Plus ALL's loss against Kabum has me judging them so very hard, in the same vein that EDG's loss to AHQ had me doubt their supposed superiority right at the start of group stages) | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 07 2014 14:41 ShootAnonymous wrote: In a way CN league can't go the way CN DotA has due to the way slots are awarded for World Championships; even KR League still revolves around one major circuit (champions). In fact CN league might still have the most non-regular-league seasonal tournaments in which top-tier teams participate in*: WEC and XCS come to mind immediately, whereas for KR I can only think of Masters. Plus I'm sure there's more CN tournaments except my memory's bad and english league-sites barely cover CN tournaments if at all. Urgh. All of those other leagues are basically onlines only. Seasonal LANs are virtually impossible to operate because scheduling would conflict with LPL and obviously we know which one teams would pick if they were forced to choose between the two. Even when they don't conflict, you end up with a shitshow like last year's G-League where none of the teams gave a fuck because it was during the off-season period after Worlds. There's something wrong when Tencent's business model is bullying out one of China's most historied seasonal LAN Leagues like that. You could argue that NA and EU needed Riot's intervention because organizers like MLG and ESL were going nowhere fast and Riot needed to jumpstart the idea of seasonal LAN leagues. But China already had the tools to make things work on it's own like Korea has. Seasonal LAN tournaments have worked for years already. For Tencent to relegate stable, historied tournaments like this to off-season filler makes absolutely no sense to me. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19569 Posts
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
On October 07 2014 08:09 krndandaman wrote: not loveling. he was also mediocre. watch was bad but it wasn't because of loveling. cool wrecked ggoong. san wrecked zefa. cloud >>>dada and was pretty even with gorilla. gogoing tore a new one in save. Don't think Loveling was mediocre. He got killed early invading in kne game but farmed hard enough to stay relevant and had impact with some sick Lee Sin engages. He had way more presence over the series than watch. | ||
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ShootAnonymous
1948 Posts
Corrections by a self-proclaimed ineffectively bilingual in spoilers ;D (tbh the interpreter is already doing a pretty good job here compared to some of his translations in other interviews) + Show Spoiler + First qn: The nuance of his answer was lost in translation: "刚好，可能是我带了鼠标键盘..." "It just happened that, perhaps because I brought my peripherals along...." Compounded by how a part of Cloud's answer completely was completed missed out: "他们看到了我平时的努力，然后就决定想赌一把，然后把我作为个秘密武器吧" "They(the team) also saw the hard work I put in, decided to take a gamble and so made me a 'secret weapon'." In contrast to how matter-of-fact way in which the interpreter phrased his answer ("I came here as a sub"), Cloud's words made it seem like something that wasn't for sure. Also, the part about "letting him try out new things" was not part of Cloud's actual answer. 2nd Qn He didn't say Janna was "very good for teamfight" he just said that "to/for the team, this champion was very useful/good to use". 4th Qn re: beating NJWS 3:0 Slight mis-order, Cloud said: "赢的胜算比较大所以充满信心" "(I) felt that our chances of winning were pretty big, so (I) was full of confidence" as opposed to "...confident with ourselves, we think we can win" T/N: the "I" is in brackets because his answer didn't actually contain pronouns. 6th Qn re:facing off against SSB's botlane 我觉得有信心至少跟他们五五开吧 I feel, I have the confidence to at least go even. T/N: the interpreter's choice to use "our chance is 50-50" is a literal translation of the term "55开" but makes no sense in this context. Chance is 50-50; 50-50 to do what? Also: I'm sure the interpreter didn't translate whatever Cloud was mumbling at the end, but I can't catch what he said either T_T Last question re: what he had to do to beat Deft & Heart "我觉得只要线上补刀不会少然后等待队伍支援，配合团队就行 I feel that we just need to not lose out on CS during laning phase, wait for teammates' help and then play well as a team. Cloud definitely did not say "focus on farming" Also the interpreter missed out the ending bit about cooperating with his teammates. Random comments: Cloud really likes to say the CN equivalent of "and then". I also can't tell if he's just really nervous or the team gave him a script for some of his answers, particularly for the first qn. | ||
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