• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:28
CEST 07:28
KST 14:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview0[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
KSL Week 89 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9>
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Semifinals B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Semifinals A
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1839 users

[S4WC] Quarterfinals - Page 170

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 168 169 170 171 172 173 Next
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 06 2014 16:34 GMT
#3381
On October 07 2014 01:32 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
All this Korea hate is appalling. All these Western fans cheering for OMG aren't fans of them, they are just Korea haters. Somehow they've forgotten the fact that whoever wins really don't have anything to do with them. It's another Korea vs. China final and their favorite teams are going to be home watching.


You're funny.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 06 2014 16:40 GMT
#3382
On October 07 2014 01:21 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 00:52 Numy wrote:
On October 07 2014 00:44 nimdil wrote:
I wonder if Samsung teams are preparing for each other or directly for chinese teams (to save korea's honor, since najin collapsed), considering they are from 1 team.


Supposedly they aren't allowed to discuss strats with each other or any meta stuff so they are more separate entities than most sister teams. Not sure how much of that is truth or just misdirection.

Interesting how possibly can they manage that for so long and what is the point of this rule O_o


Not sure myself. I think from what I read it's so they don't become two versions of the same idea. So the teams maintain their own distinct styles and ideologies while still getting good private practice in having a sister team.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 06 2014 16:55 GMT
#3383
hmm, it never occurred to me that nuking a poster doesn't also ban them, usually when i nuke somebody all their posts get nuked and they stop posting
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 06 2014 17:03 GMT
#3384
On October 07 2014 01:34 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:32 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
All this Korea hate is appalling. All these Western fans cheering for OMG aren't fans of them, they are just Korea haters. Somehow they've forgotten the fact that whoever wins really don't have anything to do with them. It's another Korea vs. China final and their favorite teams are going to be home watching.


You're funny.

A day ago no one on reddit knew who Cloud was. Complexity drama took up the first page while the Cloud replacement notification was down on the 2nd one

Suddenly OMG are gods for defeating Koreans.

Possibly also because now people can say C9 = OMG = NJWS -> NA on par with KR
Administrator@TL_Zess
| (• ◡•)|八 (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
October 06 2014 17:13 GMT
#3385
On October 07 2014 02:03 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:34 red_ wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
All this Korea hate is appalling. All these Western fans cheering for OMG aren't fans of them, they are just Korea haters. Somehow they've forgotten the fact that whoever wins really don't have anything to do with them. It's another Korea vs. China final and their favorite teams are going to be home watching.


You're funny.

A day ago no one on reddit knew who Cloud was. Complexity drama took up the first page while the Cloud replacement notification was down on the 2nd one

Suddenly OMG are gods for defeating Koreans.

Possibly also because now people can say C9 = OMG = NJWS -> NA on par with KR


And if SHRC beats OMG, then you can construct TSM ~= SHRC > OMG > NJWS so TSM on par with KR! Huzzah transitivity!
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 17:18:20
October 06 2014 17:17 GMT
#3386
On October 07 2014 02:03 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:34 red_ wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
All this Korea hate is appalling. All these Western fans cheering for OMG aren't fans of them, they are just Korea haters. Somehow they've forgotten the fact that whoever wins really don't have anything to do with them. It's another Korea vs. China final and their favorite teams are going to be home watching.


You're funny.

A day ago no one on reddit knew who Cloud was. Complexity drama took up the first page while the Cloud replacement notification was down on the 2nd one

Suddenly OMG are gods for defeating Koreans.

Possibly also because now people can say C9 = OMG = NJWS -> NA on par with KR

It just shows that Reddit honestly doesn't actually care about CN as a region.
The live discussion threads for both SSW-TSM and SSB-C9 hit top post in no time at all, now look at the threads for EDG-SHRC and NJWS-OMG. Which is perfectly fine, btw. Fans gonna fan and it should be in their freedom to fan whatever they choose to fan.

It's less about 'hating KR' and more about making themselves feel better about their region/teams. You're attributing too much maliciousness to these cheers for OMG. Plus I'm willing to bet that at least one-third of the anti-KR comments are either sarcastic or exaggerated to parody other relevant circlejerks, or otherwise made in jest.

I'm just happy for OMG. The awesomeness of Gogoing & Lovelin should be praised \o/
(in the same vein that I was really happy for Zero of Royal when SHRC beat EDG)
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 06 2014 17:28 GMT
#3387
On October 07 2014 02:17 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:03 xes wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:34 red_ wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
All this Korea hate is appalling. All these Western fans cheering for OMG aren't fans of them, they are just Korea haters. Somehow they've forgotten the fact that whoever wins really don't have anything to do with them. It's another Korea vs. China final and their favorite teams are going to be home watching.


You're funny.

A day ago no one on reddit knew who Cloud was. Complexity drama took up the first page while the Cloud replacement notification was down on the 2nd one

Suddenly OMG are gods for defeating Koreans.

Possibly also because now people can say C9 = OMG = NJWS -> NA on par with KR

It just shows that Reddit honestly doesn't actually care about CN as a region.
The live discussion threads for both SSW-TSM and SSB-C9 hit top post in no time at all, now look at the threads for EDG-SHRC and NJWS-OMG. Which is perfectly fine, btw. Fans gonna fan and it should be in their freedom to fan whatever they choose to fan.

It's less about 'hating KR' and more about making themselves feel better about their region/teams. You're attributing too much maliciousness to these cheers for OMG. Plus I'm willing to bet that at least one-third of the anti-KR comments are either sarcastic or exaggerated to parody other relevant circlejerks, or otherwise made in jest.

I'm just happy for OMG. The awesomeness of Gogoing & Lovelin should be praised \o/
(in the same vein that I was really happy for Zero of Royal when SHRC beat EDG)

It doesn't help that China for the longest time hasn't given a shit about presenting itself to the English speaking world. It took people to bring it on themselves to cast over the LPL for it to get any publicity. Even now that they are officially recognized(I think?) they're still casting over it instead of part of the production like Monte and DoA are for OGN. It also had a really bad habit of being at or near the same time as OGN broadcasted their tournaments. As a viewer, who would I pay attention to? The league with better teams and great production quality or the league that's still back in the days of brood war when it comes to global outreach where people casted over vods and uploaded them to YouTube?
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 06 2014 17:38 GMT
#3388
On October 07 2014 02:03 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 01:34 red_ wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
All this Korea hate is appalling. All these Western fans cheering for OMG aren't fans of them, they are just Korea haters. Somehow they've forgotten the fact that whoever wins really don't have anything to do with them. It's another Korea vs. China final and their favorite teams are going to be home watching.


You're funny.

A day ago no one on reddit knew who Cloud was. Complexity drama took up the first page while the Cloud replacement notification was down on the 2nd one

Suddenly OMG are gods for defeating Koreans.

Possibly also because now people can say C9 = OMG = NJWS -> NA on par with KR


I couldn't care less about reddit, and have no clue what goes on over there. The appalling Korea hate in this thread is clearly because people are just hoping for a little bit of an underdog story, not because of some crazy NA/EU attachment to China as our one true hope. It's like any sport really. Once you get down to elimination rounds, unless you're a really casual fan, you're still going to watch, which means you're going to find other rooting interests. That doesn't make the 'hate'(it's not hate) appalling(what a strong word).

A lot of people wanted to see the Patriots go 18-1, and a lot of people want to see someone, ANYONE, upset Korean teams. There's no need to dissect the reasoning beyond that, people(on average) just like underdogs to win when their personal rooting interest is beaten.

AED's post was stupid.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
October 06 2014 17:39 GMT
#3389
On October 07 2014 02:38 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:03 xes wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:34 red_ wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
All this Korea hate is appalling. All these Western fans cheering for OMG aren't fans of them, they are just Korea haters. Somehow they've forgotten the fact that whoever wins really don't have anything to do with them. It's another Korea vs. China final and their favorite teams are going to be home watching.


You're funny.

A day ago no one on reddit knew who Cloud was. Complexity drama took up the first page while the Cloud replacement notification was down on the 2nd one

Suddenly OMG are gods for defeating Koreans.

Possibly also because now people can say C9 = OMG = NJWS -> NA on par with KR


I couldn't care less about reddit, and have no clue what goes on over there. The appalling Korea hate in this thread is clearly because people are just hoping for a little bit of an underdog story, not because of some crazy NA/EU attachment to China as our one true hope. It's like any sport really. Once you get down to elimination rounds, unless you're a really casual fan, you're still going to watch, which means you're going to find other rooting interests. That doesn't make the 'hate'(it's not hate) appalling(what a strong word).

A lot of people wanted to see the Patriots go 18-1, and a lot of people want to see someone, ANYONE, upset Korean teams. There's no need to dissect the reasoning beyond that, people(on average) just like underdogs to win when their personal rooting interest is beaten.

AED's post was stupid.


Yeah, it's pretty much exactly this. People root for underdogs in the absence of any other rooting interest.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 17:59:07
October 06 2014 17:54 GMT
#3390
On October 07 2014 02:28 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:17 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On October 07 2014 02:03 xes wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:34 red_ wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
All this Korea hate is appalling. All these Western fans cheering for OMG aren't fans of them, they are just Korea haters. Somehow they've forgotten the fact that whoever wins really don't have anything to do with them. It's another Korea vs. China final and their favorite teams are going to be home watching.


You're funny.

A day ago no one on reddit knew who Cloud was. Complexity drama took up the first page while the Cloud replacement notification was down on the 2nd one

Suddenly OMG are gods for defeating Koreans.

Possibly also because now people can say C9 = OMG = NJWS -> NA on par with KR

It just shows that Reddit honestly doesn't actually care about CN as a region.
The live discussion threads for both SSW-TSM and SSB-C9 hit top post in no time at all, now look at the threads for EDG-SHRC and NJWS-OMG. Which is perfectly fine, btw. Fans gonna fan and it should be in their freedom to fan whatever they choose to fan.

It's less about 'hating KR' and more about making themselves feel better about their region/teams. You're attributing too much maliciousness to these cheers for OMG. Plus I'm willing to bet that at least one-third of the anti-KR comments are either sarcastic or exaggerated to parody other relevant circlejerks, or otherwise made in jest.

I'm just happy for OMG. The awesomeness of Gogoing & Lovelin should be praised \o/
(in the same vein that I was really happy for Zero of Royal when SHRC beat EDG)

It doesn't help that China for the longest time hasn't given a shit about presenting itself to the English speaking world. It took people to bring it on themselves to cast over the LPL for it to get any publicity. Even now that they are officially recognized(I think?) they're still casting over it instead of part of the production like Monte and DoA are for OGN. It also had a really bad habit of being at or near the same time as OGN broadcasted their tournaments. As a viewer, who would I pay attention to? The league with better teams and great production quality or the league that's still back in the days of brood war when it comes to global outreach where people casted over vods and uploaded them to YouTube?


Someone better-versed in the business-side of LPL please step in, but AFAIK OGN is a legit broadcasting company whereas LPL is hosted by Tencent who doesn't do general esports broadcasting? A better comparison would be between LPL and LCS. OGN hosts more than just League (SCII), Hearthstone, not entirely sure if they're doing anything else), whereas both Riot and Tencent are pretty League-focused? LCS doesn't bother with non-english in-house casting, LPL doesn't bother with non-mandarin in-house casting.

Of course, LPL is missing out by not giving a damn about their potential non-mandarin-speaking audience. But that's just how it is due to a presence of a strong internal market. CN's music industry is the same way -- extremely insular in comparison to neighbouring TW. If JP had an League scene I'm willing to bet it'd be the same as CN with regards to reaching out the foreign community; it's just how these countries with strong internal markets are. (NA/RU is the same way, it just happens that English is the working language of the world so it isn't as apparent)

Also RE: production issues -- all this voice-ing over-streams issues would be greatly eliminated if League had a good spectator like DotA (all major LANs have easily 2~3 languages casts - EN, CN, RU. sometimes doubling up on the EN/CN casts). E.g. In DotA people actually do care about SEA top teams even though SEA hasn't been a top region ever, just because EN coverage is easily available without need for the original organisers to jump through technical hoops.

I'm not disagreeing but I'm somewhat bewildered(?) by the expectation English casting should be provided by in-house LPL crew.

EDIT: upon re-reading I'm not really sure where I was planning to go with this, went into derailment territory and possibly misinterpreted Ghalo's post. too tired to edit it into something more sensible though. derp.
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 18:45:51
October 06 2014 18:35 GMT
#3391
On October 07 2014 02:54 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Someone better-versed in the business-side of LPL please step in, but AFAIK OGN is a legit broadcasting company whereas LPL is hosted by Tencent who doesn't do general esports broadcasting? A better comparison would be between LPL and LCS. OGN hosts more than just League (SCII), Hearthstone, not entirely sure if they're doing anything else), whereas both Riot and Tencent are pretty League-focused? LCS doesn't bother with non-english in-house casting, LPL doesn't bother with non-mandarin in-house casting.

Tencent basically took over PLU to do their LPL broadcasting. Which was basically the Chinese equivalent of going to GOM when OGN and MBC exist.

EDIT: TBH I think Tencent's decision to stick closer to the LCS model for LPL's production rather than Korea's where Riot Korea more or less lets OGN do their own thing is pretty questionable. China, like Korea, has the benefit of having an Esports infrastructure that could actually support seasonal LAN tournaments without direct intervention (DotA and War3 have both had a history of such tournaments). There was no real reason for Tencent to step in like they have, and doing so has basically suffocated 3rd party tournament organization out of the scene.
Moderator
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 06 2014 18:45 GMT
#3392
In ten sentences or less, can someone sum up this series? I am trying to figure out how omg powered up and it certainly took more than just dropping an anvil named dada
One Love
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
October 06 2014 18:46 GMT
#3393
Gotta say, the Korean crowd is pretty amazing. After a history of crowds only cheering for home teams, the French and Korean crowds have definitely shown a lot of spirit even when foreign teams win.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 06 2014 18:49 GMT
#3394
On October 07 2014 02:54 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:28 Gahlo wrote:
On October 07 2014 02:17 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On October 07 2014 02:03 xes wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:34 red_ wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
All this Korea hate is appalling. All these Western fans cheering for OMG aren't fans of them, they are just Korea haters. Somehow they've forgotten the fact that whoever wins really don't have anything to do with them. It's another Korea vs. China final and their favorite teams are going to be home watching.


You're funny.

A day ago no one on reddit knew who Cloud was. Complexity drama took up the first page while the Cloud replacement notification was down on the 2nd one

Suddenly OMG are gods for defeating Koreans.

Possibly also because now people can say C9 = OMG = NJWS -> NA on par with KR

It just shows that Reddit honestly doesn't actually care about CN as a region.
The live discussion threads for both SSW-TSM and SSB-C9 hit top post in no time at all, now look at the threads for EDG-SHRC and NJWS-OMG. Which is perfectly fine, btw. Fans gonna fan and it should be in their freedom to fan whatever they choose to fan.

It's less about 'hating KR' and more about making themselves feel better about their region/teams. You're attributing too much maliciousness to these cheers for OMG. Plus I'm willing to bet that at least one-third of the anti-KR comments are either sarcastic or exaggerated to parody other relevant circlejerks, or otherwise made in jest.

I'm just happy for OMG. The awesomeness of Gogoing & Lovelin should be praised \o/
(in the same vein that I was really happy for Zero of Royal when SHRC beat EDG)

It doesn't help that China for the longest time hasn't given a shit about presenting itself to the English speaking world. It took people to bring it on themselves to cast over the LPL for it to get any publicity. Even now that they are officially recognized(I think?) they're still casting over it instead of part of the production like Monte and DoA are for OGN. It also had a really bad habit of being at or near the same time as OGN broadcasted their tournaments. As a viewer, who would I pay attention to? The league with better teams and great production quality or the league that's still back in the days of brood war when it comes to global outreach where people casted over vods and uploaded them to YouTube?


Someone better-versed in the business-side of LPL please step in, but AFAIK OGN is a legit broadcasting company whereas LPL is hosted by Tencent who doesn't do general esports broadcasting? A better comparison would be between LPL and LCS. OGN hosts more than just League (SCII), Hearthstone, not entirely sure if they're doing anything else), whereas both Riot and Tencent are pretty League-focused? LCS doesn't bother with non-english in-house casting, LPL doesn't bother with non-mandarin in-house casting.

Of course, LPL is missing out by not giving a damn about their potential non-mandarin-speaking audience. But that's just how it is due to a presence of a strong internal market. CN's music industry is the same way -- extremely insular in comparison to neighbouring TW. If JP had an League scene I'm willing to bet it'd be the same as CN with regards to reaching out the foreign community; it's just how these countries with strong internal markets are. (NA/RU is the same way, it just happens that English is the working language of the world so it isn't as apparent)

Also RE: production issues -- all this voice-ing over-streams issues would be greatly eliminated if League had a good spectator like DotA (all major LANs have easily 2~3 languages casts - EN, CN, RU. sometimes doubling up on the EN/CN casts). E.g. In DotA people actually do care about SEA top teams even though SEA hasn't been a top region ever, just because EN coverage is easily available without need for the original organisers to jump through technical hoops.

I'm not disagreeing but I'm somewhat bewildered(?) by the expectation English casting should be provided by in-house LPL crew.

EDIT: upon re-reading I'm not really sure where I was planning to go with this, went into derailment territory and possibly misinterpreted Ghalo's post. too tired to edit it into something more sensible though. derp.

I'm just saying that it's hard for people in the West to care about the Chinese scene when the Chinese scene hasn't done much to get the West involved. Between content providers and consumers, there needs to be a push and pull. LPL doesn't seem overly concerned with Western viewership, so it goes to OGN for Champions instead because it does.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 19:06:33
October 06 2014 19:04 GMT
#3395
On October 07 2014 03:45 Sleight wrote:
In ten sentences or less, can someone sum up this series? I am trying to figure out how omg powered up and it certainly took more than just dropping an anvil named dada


- #FreedCloud
- No more sad San because of it.
- Save choked again, whole Shield roster played bad
- People overrated watch hardcore again, so, basically, karma hit back.
- Gogoing is a God
- Whole trio of Cool, Allen and Gogoing finally performed in same time.

On October 07 2014 03:49 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:54 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On October 07 2014 02:28 Gahlo wrote:
On October 07 2014 02:17 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On October 07 2014 02:03 xes wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:34 red_ wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:32 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
All this Korea hate is appalling. All these Western fans cheering for OMG aren't fans of them, they are just Korea haters. Somehow they've forgotten the fact that whoever wins really don't have anything to do with them. It's another Korea vs. China final and their favorite teams are going to be home watching.


You're funny.

A day ago no one on reddit knew who Cloud was. Complexity drama took up the first page while the Cloud replacement notification was down on the 2nd one

Suddenly OMG are gods for defeating Koreans.

Possibly also because now people can say C9 = OMG = NJWS -> NA on par with KR

It just shows that Reddit honestly doesn't actually care about CN as a region.
The live discussion threads for both SSW-TSM and SSB-C9 hit top post in no time at all, now look at the threads for EDG-SHRC and NJWS-OMG. Which is perfectly fine, btw. Fans gonna fan and it should be in their freedom to fan whatever they choose to fan.

It's less about 'hating KR' and more about making themselves feel better about their region/teams. You're attributing too much maliciousness to these cheers for OMG. Plus I'm willing to bet that at least one-third of the anti-KR comments are either sarcastic or exaggerated to parody other relevant circlejerks, or otherwise made in jest.

I'm just happy for OMG. The awesomeness of Gogoing & Lovelin should be praised \o/
(in the same vein that I was really happy for Zero of Royal when SHRC beat EDG)

It doesn't help that China for the longest time hasn't given a shit about presenting itself to the English speaking world. It took people to bring it on themselves to cast over the LPL for it to get any publicity. Even now that they are officially recognized(I think?) they're still casting over it instead of part of the production like Monte and DoA are for OGN. It also had a really bad habit of being at or near the same time as OGN broadcasted their tournaments. As a viewer, who would I pay attention to? The league with better teams and great production quality or the league that's still back in the days of brood war when it comes to global outreach where people casted over vods and uploaded them to YouTube?


Someone better-versed in the business-side of LPL please step in, but AFAIK OGN is a legit broadcasting company whereas LPL is hosted by Tencent who doesn't do general esports broadcasting? A better comparison would be between LPL and LCS. OGN hosts more than just League (SCII), Hearthstone, not entirely sure if they're doing anything else), whereas both Riot and Tencent are pretty League-focused? LCS doesn't bother with non-english in-house casting, LPL doesn't bother with non-mandarin in-house casting.

Of course, LPL is missing out by not giving a damn about their potential non-mandarin-speaking audience. But that's just how it is due to a presence of a strong internal market. CN's music industry is the same way -- extremely insular in comparison to neighbouring TW. If JP had an League scene I'm willing to bet it'd be the same as CN with regards to reaching out the foreign community; it's just how these countries with strong internal markets are. (NA/RU is the same way, it just happens that English is the working language of the world so it isn't as apparent)

Also RE: production issues -- all this voice-ing over-streams issues would be greatly eliminated if League had a good spectator like DotA (all major LANs have easily 2~3 languages casts - EN, CN, RU. sometimes doubling up on the EN/CN casts). E.g. In DotA people actually do care about SEA top teams even though SEA hasn't been a top region ever, just because EN coverage is easily available without need for the original organisers to jump through technical hoops.

I'm not disagreeing but I'm somewhat bewildered(?) by the expectation English casting should be provided by in-house LPL crew.

EDIT: upon re-reading I'm not really sure where I was planning to go with this, went into derailment territory and possibly misinterpreted Ghalo's post. too tired to edit it into something more sensible though. derp.

I'm just saying that it's hard for people in the West to care about the Chinese scene when the Chinese scene hasn't done much to get the West involved. Between content providers and consumers, there needs to be a push and pull. LPL doesn't seem overly concerned with Western viewership, so it goes to OGN for Champions instead because it does.


Considering that LPL made a huge move forward this season in case of English-speaking broadcasts and that basically whole LPL watching community is alive in TL threads with 10~ people, uh.

People are not that interested in China in general, this idea that "we're on same level of China anyway, it's basically bracket luck, anyway there is only Korea, others but SEA are tied pretty much" needed to get destroyed, thank God that it happened now and Western regions have things to think.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
lega
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada290 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 19:44:37
October 06 2014 19:32 GMT
#3396
On October 07 2014 03:46 Shiznick wrote:
Gotta say, the Korean crowd is pretty amazing. After a history of crowds only cheering for home teams, the French and Korean crowds have definitely shown a lot of spirit even when foreign teams win.

French crowds were awesome. But the cheers last time were mainly SKT/KT grudge imo..
NJWS in Korean is like EDG in China- most fans in their region prefer seeing them lose.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 06 2014 19:47 GMT
#3397
Watching the rebroadcast - holy shit GoGoing is incredible. Rekking everyone.

Who's actually going to contain him in the semis? Not convinced Uzi can do it.
SUNSFANNED
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 06 2014 20:02 GMT
#3398
From the Shield v OMG post match thread on reddit:
[–]qqmania 1562 points 8 hours ago

the 4v5 training at groups really paid off for OMG

*[–]3hoho5 [+1] 674 points 8 hours ago

*Sandbag in groups, teabag in quarters.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
October 06 2014 20:08 GMT
#3399
On October 07 2014 01:21 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 00:52 Numy wrote:
On October 07 2014 00:44 nimdil wrote:
I wonder if Samsung teams are preparing for each other or directly for chinese teams (to save korea's honor, since najin collapsed), considering they are from 1 team.


Supposedly they aren't allowed to discuss strats with each other or any meta stuff so they are more separate entities than most sister teams. Not sure how much of that is truth or just misdirection.

Interesting how possibly can they manage that for so long and what is the point of this rule O_o

The point is so that the two teams develop as seperate teams. If they shared everything they would become similar and scrims wouldn't be as beneficial. According to the coach at least.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 06 2014 20:11 GMT
#3400
On October 07 2014 03:45 Sleight wrote:
In ten sentences or less, can someone sum up this series? I am trying to figure out how omg powered up and it certainly took more than just dropping an anvil named dada

Manly jaw aesthetics > 3rd place koreans.
liftlift > tsm
Prev 1 168 169 170 171 172 173 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Korean StarCraft League
03:00
Korean Starcraft League #89
CranKy Ducklings179
davetesta52
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
21:30
Best Games
Maru vs Rogue
ByuN vs herO
Maru vs Classic
SHIN vs Zoun
Clem vs MaxPax
SHIN vs ByuN
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 426
Ketroc 49
ROOTCatZ 46
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 829
yabsab 16
ZergMaN 4
Icarus 0
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm192
League of Legends
JimRising 773
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K834
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr28
Other Games
summit1g8853
C9.Mang0485
WinterStarcraft470
monkeys_forever247
ViBE150
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1039
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• EnkiAlexander 70
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP49
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1198
• Stunt329
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
4h 32m
Clem vs Rogue
Bunny vs Lambo
IPSL
10h 32m
Dewalt vs nOmaD
Ret vs Cross
BSL
10h 32m
Artosis vs Sterling
eOnzErG vs TBD
BSL
13h 32m
Bonyth vs Doodle
Dewalt vs TerrOr
GSL
1d 2h
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
IPSL
1d 10h
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
BSL
1d 13h
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
Replay Cast
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.