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lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
March 15 2014 15:50 GMT
#2681
C9 lost but I get the feeling they're the stronger team
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
March 15 2014 15:50 GMT
#2682
I'm thirsty for some more American tears. Fnatic will delivar
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 15:51:11
March 15 2014 15:51 GMT
#2683
On March 16 2014 00:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:47 Otolia wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

So you are an apologist too ? :|


If you go by the rankings, China sent Dignitas/EG or Alliance/SHC to LCS.


Well, Fnatic and Mil aren't top LCS either, so not sure what you point is.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 15 2014 15:51 GMT
#2684
Balls makes me so fucking mad thsi game. like wtf.
liftlift > tsm
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 15 2014 15:51 GMT
#2685
On March 16 2014 00:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:47 Otolia wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

So you are an apologist too ? :|


If you go by the rankings, China sent Dignitas/EG or Alliance/SHC to LCS.

If you go by recent results, Alliance are actually better than Fnatic or Gambit. This is a stupid game.
Off-season = best season
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 15 2014 15:52 GMT
#2686
On March 16 2014 00:49 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:47 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

wtb EDG/OMG pls

No LGD, yango is displeased.

Oh right, how silly of me.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 15 2014 15:52 GMT
#2687
On March 16 2014 00:49 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

And KTB or Fnatic are?

C9 and Gambit are. KTB is just proof of how much better the level of play in Korea is, and Fnatic beating iG still shouldn't be surprising when IG is literally fighting it out with PE for "shittiest team in LPL".

Anyone who thinks iG is any good hasn't been watching Chinese LoL. The team's understanding of the game has stagnated since Xiaoxiao left the team. This is exacerbated by the fact that IEM is playing one patch ahead of LPL because as usual, Tencent is good at patching the game on time (LPL still didn't even have the Riven nerf as of last week).
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
March 15 2014 15:52 GMT
#2688
On March 16 2014 00:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Balls makes me so fucking mad thsi game. like wtf.


Yeah, normally balls is really good on the rotations, but this game, he just stayed in a lane and farmed all game. He really didn't exert the team-fight pressure he normally does.
darkness overpowering
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
March 15 2014 15:52 GMT
#2689
On March 16 2014 00:50 ParadeofMadness wrote:
I'm thirsty for some more American tears. Fnatic will delivar


Carefull they have much calories.
Science>Mechanics
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 15 2014 15:52 GMT
#2690


pretty much what i said.
liftlift > tsm
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
March 15 2014 15:52 GMT
#2691
On March 16 2014 00:51 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:47 Otolia wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

So you are an apologist too ? :|


If you go by the rankings, China sent Dignitas/EG or Alliance/SHC to LCS.


Well, Fnatic and Mil aren't top LCS either, so not sure what you point is.

The point is that iG and WE aren't representative of China's skill, so people shouldn't judge the chinese meta/chinese skill level off the games this weekend.
nikuniku
Profile Joined August 2013
212 Posts
March 15 2014 15:52 GMT
#2692
On March 16 2014 00:47 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

wtb EDG/OMG pls


Edg just got crushed by OMG today in a game and surrendered at 20 sharp. But you are right, at this moment the only decent teams in LPL are OMG edg and LDG.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 15:53:56
March 15 2014 15:52 GMT
#2693
On March 16 2014 00:51 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:47 Otolia wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

So you are an apologist too ? :|


If you go by the rankings, China sent Dignitas/EG or Alliance/SHC to LCS.


Well, Fnatic and Mil aren't top LCS either, so not sure what you point is.



Well the top 6 of EU LCS are all within a 2 game record of each other lol.

WE teased me by beating OMG in a bo3 pre LPL and looked good shitting on lower ranked teams in LPL so I got false hope. RIP. WE still blows.
TranslatorBaa!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 15 2014 15:53 GMT
#2694
On March 16 2014 00:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:49 Dan HH wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

And KTB or Fnatic are?

C9 and Gambit are. KTB is just proof of how much better the level of play in Korea is, and Fnatic beating iG still shouldn't be surprising when IG is literally fighting it out with PE for "shittiest team in LPL".

Anyone who thinks iG is any good hasn't been watching Chinese LoL. The team's understanding of the game has stagnated since Xiaoxiao left the team. This is exacerbated by the fact that IEM is playing one patch ahead of LPL because as usual, Tencent is good at patching the game on time (LPL still didn't even have the Riven nerf as of last week).

iG still has not as bad recent results as Fnatic.
Off-season = best season
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
March 15 2014 15:53 GMT
#2695
On March 16 2014 00:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:47 Otolia wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

So you are an apologist too ? :|

If you go by the rankings, China sent Dignitas/EG or Alliance/SHC to LCS.

And EU sent freaking Millenium, Fnatic and Gambit. The first 2 being in the bottom 4 of the LCS. The problem is that you all try to draw conclusions on the strength of each scene when it doesn't make sense because there is NO clear dominance of one scene contrary to what we can see in SC2.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 15 2014 15:54 GMT
#2696
On March 16 2014 00:52 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:51 vthree wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:47 Otolia wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

So you are an apologist too ? :|


If you go by the rankings, China sent Dignitas/EG or Alliance/SHC to LCS.


Well, Fnatic and Mil aren't top LCS either, so not sure what you point is.

The point is that iG and WE aren't representative of China's skill, so people shouldn't judge the chinese meta/chinese skill level off the games this weekend.

But if they won we should, right?
Off-season = best season
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
March 15 2014 15:54 GMT
#2697
On March 16 2014 00:45 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:45 Fusilero wrote:
Fnatic wouldn't have gone 0-8 in EU LCS if xpeke played like that all the time

Well.. when you're gifted a 1v1 first blood it's hard to look bad.

He outplayed Hai and killed him in a straight 1v1 how come it's a gift lol.. the bias is strong with this one. Pretty sure if it had been Hai killing Peke 1v1 we'd have endured 10 posts of yours praising Hai lol
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
March 15 2014 15:54 GMT
#2698
aww, i fell asleep after gambit vs we. i'll have to check the vods.

anyway, this certainly is a refreshing change from having to endure weeks of "peke is shit" "why did anyone think he was good" "top eu mid my ass" lol
Writer:o
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
March 15 2014 15:55 GMT
#2699
On March 16 2014 00:53 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:47 Otolia wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

So you are an apologist too ? :|

If you go by the rankings, China sent Dignitas/EG or Alliance/SHC to LCS.

And EU sent freaking Millenium, Fnatic and Gambit. The first 2 being in the bottom 4 of the LCS. The problem is that you all try to draw conclusions on the strength of each scene when it doesn't make sense because there is NO clear dominance of one scene contrary to what we can see in SC2.


Wrong. Korea, just like SC2 lol.
darkness overpowering
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 15 2014 15:55 GMT
#2700
On March 16 2014 00:52 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 00:51 vthree wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:47 Otolia wrote:
On March 16 2014 00:46 TheYango wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:30 vthree wrote:
On March 15 2014 23:26 AsnSensation wrote:
can't believe it's really KTB plus our 3 LCS teams in the semis after that day1 showing especially from europe xD


I think it took them some time to adjust to the Chinese/Taiwan style which is aggressive early game follow by snowball. Both Fanatic and Gambit picked much better laning and mid game comps and just punished the Chinese and Taiwan teams for turret diving.

WE, IG and TPA have pretty poor late games, so if you can hang on into the mid game, they will make mistake you can punish.

And honestly, it was more of a overreaction yesterday since the EU teams only lost 2 Bo1s vs the Chinese and Taiwanese teams. But I guess there is so little international play that people made a huge deal on the strength of the scenes.

Or WE and iG just blow and aren't really representative of the top level of play in LPL anymore.

So you are an apologist too ? :|


If you go by the rankings, China sent Dignitas/EG or Alliance/SHC to LCS.


Well, Fnatic and Mil aren't top LCS either, so not sure what you point is.

The point is that iG and WE aren't representative of China's skill, so people shouldn't judge the chinese meta/chinese skill level off the games this weekend.

I dont think anyone is lol.Fnatic right now are playing better than they do in lcs but what if the teams that beat them in lcs played better here as well?Those games don't really do anything to compare the scenes overall just the teams between each other.
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