EPT[EU LCS] S4 Spring Week 4 - Page 28
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Redox
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 08 2014 03:47 Anggroth wrote: Would have thought a Gragas/Ziggs/Ori would work better with the Wukong/Graves/Annie, the AoE combo they could put down would win instantly teamfights (assuming they hit properly), Lulu gives some more control but a massive step down in damage. Wukong/Lulu is retarded though, if Wukong gets a single good ult the teamfight is instantly over. | ||
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
On February 08 2014 03:50 Ghost-z wrote: What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs? "fairly" low dps, low range | ||
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Anggroth
United Kingdom345 Posts
On February 08 2014 03:50 mr_tolkien wrote: Wukong/Lulu is retarded though, if Wukong gets a single good ult the teamfight is instantly over. Would you take Wild Growth on Wukong over a Shockwave on him though? | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 08 2014 03:50 Redox wrote: Jesiz also doing the same build as Alex. Does Zamphira also do the same? I think zamphira favoured morello over grail. | ||
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Parametric
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Alaric
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 08 2014 03:51 Anggroth wrote: Would you take Wild Growth on Wukong over a Shockwave on him though? Shockwave requires more setup. Wild growth is instant and works on any engage, however weird it might be. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 08 2014 03:50 Ghost-z wrote: What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs? Lowest base AS of AD carries, tied. Low range. No reach (Q is lower range than pretty much every similar spells (Volley, Peacemaker, Mystic Shot, etc.) and only deals its maximum damage up to something like ~250-300 range) to make up for when he can't auto (compare to The Culling, Mystic Shot or Missile Barrage). | ||
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Anggroth
United Kingdom345 Posts
On February 08 2014 03:54 mr_tolkien wrote: Shockwave requires more setup. Wild growth is instant and works on any engage, however weird it might be. True but with SK's comp you've already got Tibbers and Cyclone, I just think that some more damage is needed instead of the added CC, also I could get the Lulu pick if they had a late game adc and they were just playing a variation on the old "protect the Kog" strat, but Graves doesn't really fit that. Edit: this is all academic anyway, SK aren't getting any of the ulti combo's off and Wild Growth is just being used to prevent picks. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
As far as dps with BT, Shiv, LW: Caitlyn has headshot and Graves has quickdraw so its fairly even in my book. Caitlyn has better defensive options (range) but Graves has better burst. My question is, is it just because Caitlyn can attack more "safely" that makes her better against tanks? Which adc's are the best for chewing through tanks? (besides vayne) | ||
Kiett
United States7639 Posts
too bad it's too late | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Was watching amazing Olympic ceremony, hadn't seen anything except Lulu. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On February 08 2014 04:07 Ghost-z wrote: As far as dps with BT, Shiv, LW: Caitlyn has headshot and Graves has quickdraw so its fairly even in my book. Caitlyn has better defensive options (range) but Graves has better burst. My question is, is it just because Caitlyn can attack more "safely" that makes her better against tanks? Which adc's are the best for chewing through tanks? (besides vayne) What burst?Abilites are useless vs tanks.They die to crits or %hp.Range is a lot more damage than graves using his atk speed buff which also happens to be his only mobility. | ||
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Swords
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Especially when Jinx was open, that blows my mind. Her ult would be just as effective, if not more effective, than Graves' and she wouldn't be as mercilessly demolished in the early game/late game. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 08 2014 04:08 Swords wrote: Does SK have a coach? I get what this team comp was supposed to do, but picking Graves into Caitlyn/Karma, and blind picking Lulu into midlane seems like a really poor strategy. Especially when Jinx was open, that blows my mind. Her ult would be just as effective, if not more effective, than Graves' and she wouldn't be as mercilessly demolished in the early game/late game. Looking at their liquipedia page, nope | ||
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