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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gsiQ0.png) Thursday, Feb 06 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FLMz7aU.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BUBCHaR.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/T7SJGsD.png) Fnatic (7-1) Alliance (2-6)18:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +FNC vs ALL
Bans:
Kayle Kassadin
Wukong Annie
Yasuo Elise
Picks:
LeBlanc Trundle / Pantheon
Lee Sin / Caitlyn Leona / Lucian
Orianna / Thresh Gragas
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iZernzx.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cXaBSt7.png) Millenium (2-5) Team ROCCAT (5-3)19:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +MIL vs ROC
Bans:
Caitlyn Yasuo
Kayle Annie
Lucian Kassadin
Picks:
Elise Thresh / Pantheon
Lulu / Gragas Ziggs / Renekton
Tristana / Shyvana Ezreal
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9wq8yzE.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5ouorpi.png) Copenhagen Wolves (3-5) Gambit Gaming (6-2)20:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +CW vs GMB
Bans:
LeBlanc Kassadin
Kha'Zix Elise
Jinx Lee Sin
Picks:
Kayle Lulu / Thresh
Annie / Lucian Evelynn / Varus
Wukong / Renekton Trundle
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Mh4Wu8y.png) Supa Hot Crew (3-5) Millenium (2-5)21:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +SHC vs MIL
Bans:
Yasuo Ziggs
Annie Morgana
Kassadin Gragas
Picks:
Caitlyn Lucian / Thresh
Pantheon / Sona LeBlanc / Lee Sin
Orianna / Dr. Mundo Warwick
Friday, Feb 07 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2VPM8RE.png) SK Gaming (4-5) Copenhagen Wolves (3-5)18:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +SK vs CW
Bans:
Yasuo LeBlanc
Kayle Pantheon
Kassadin Elise
Picks:
Annie Karma / Lee Sin
Wukong / Lulu Ziggs / Caitlyn
Graves / Renekton Trundle
SHC vs GMB
Bans:
Yasuo Elise
LeBlanc Pantheon
Kassadin Lee Sin
Picks:
Thresh Jinx / Evelynn
Lucian / Kayle Trundle / Alistar
Renekton / Vi Lulu
FNC vs ROC
Bans:
Pantheon Kassadin
Kayle Annie
Gragas Yasuo
Picks:
Ziggs Thresh / Elise
Caitlyn / Leona Renekton / Lucian
Lee Sin / Dr. Mundo Kha'zix
ALL vs MIL
Bans:
Warwick Trundle
Ziggs Gragas
Lucian Kassadin
Picks:
Elise Caitlyn / Thresh
Jinx / Renekton LeBlanc / Vi
Kayle / Annie Shyvana
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0PxXd.png) + Show Spoiler [Feb 6] +Fnatic vs Alliance + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Fnatic vs Alliance Spring Week 4?Yes (13) 76% No (2) 12% If you have time (2) 12% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend Fnatic vs Alliance Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Millenium vs ROCCAT + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Millenium vs ROCCAT Spring Week 4?Yes (1) 17% No (2) 33% If you have time (3) 50% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Millenium vs ROCCAT Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Wolves vs Gambit + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Wolves vs Gambit Spring Week 4?Yes (8) 80% No (2) 20% If you have time (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Wolves vs Gambit Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
SHC vs Millenium + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend SHC vs Millenium Spring Week 4?Yes (1) 8% No (9) 75% If you have time (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend SHC vs Millenium Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
SK vs Wolves + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend SK vs Wolves Spring Week 4?Yes (5) 63% No (1) 13% If you have time (2) 25% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend SK vs Wolves Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
SHC vs Gambit + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend SHC vs Gambit Spring Week 4?Yes (10) 91% No (0) 0% If you have time (1) 9% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend SHC vs Gambit Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Fnatic vs ROCCAT + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Fnatic vs ROCCAT Spring Week 4?Yes (9) 60% No (6) 40% If you have time (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Fnatic vs ROCCAT Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Alliance vs Millenium + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Alliance vs Millenium Spring Week 4?Yes (2) 18% No (5) 45% If you have time (4) 36% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alliance vs Millenium Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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I can't take another Fnatic - Roccat game. My body has not healed since last week...
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I hope Roccat will keep performing well and not doing like MYM, falling off after the first 2 weeks
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On February 05 2014 01:29 Lylat wrote:
I hope Roccat will keep performing well and not doing like MYM, falling off after the first 2 weeks
Nah, MYM were a one trick pony with one good player in czaru. Roccat both in terms of skill and strategy are infinitely superior to MYM the only thing the two teams share in common is being Polish.
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Who has Gambit lost to other than Fnatic in the 1st week?
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On February 05 2014 04:24 1godless wrote:
Who has Gambit lost to other than Fnatic in the 1st week?
They lost to roccat which sent the roccat hype train into overdrive.
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Roccat vs Fnatic is a very important match. If Fnatic wins their lead is going to be very overwhelming when it comes to morale on the other hand if Roccat wins they'll keep up in pace with Gambit and it won't let Fnatic runaway with lead.
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On February 05 2014 05:24 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 04:24 1godless wrote:
Who has Gambit lost to other than Fnatic in the 1st week? They lost to roccat which sent the roccat hype train into overdrive.
I just liked their logo then they started winning 
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They are pretty hype though. Imagine if they had beaten or will in fact beat fnatic, the hype would be too insane! Also what do you guys think makes Roccat successful? Thinking back to their wins nothing really stood out beyond the flashy pantheon plays.
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The mid/jungle synergy is pretty good and their teamfights are solid, similar to C9. The malph/panth game is a perfect example of that; lose early, win teamfights, win game.
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On February 05 2014 02:18 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 01:29 Lylat wrote:
I hope Roccat will keep performing well and not doing like MYM, falling off after the first 2 weeks Nah, MYM were a one trick pony with one good player in czaru. Roccat both in terms of skill and strategy are infinitely superior to MYM the only thing the two teams share in common is being Polish.
I hope You are right. But their lose to SK shaked my confidence.
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My predictions:
Fnatic > Alliance
Millenium < ROCCAT
Wolves < Gambit
SHC > Millenium
SK < Wolves
SHC < Gambit
Fnatic > ROCCAT
Alliance > Millenium
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Fnatic 0-2, let's bet :D
Time to stop this hypetrain, EU LCS don't like hypetrains.
Millenium > Roccat as well.
And Alliance will be 2-0 as well as Gambit to stop those hypetrains next week.
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wow, alliance not playing first!
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I just want ROC to win against Fnatic, every other match may the better team win.
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On February 04 2014 20:58 MattBarry wrote:
9-1 Fnatic
pretty much....
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Tomorrow LCS will start at 17:00 CET.
Now I can't watch the first game
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On February 06 2014 08:12 Doctorbeat wrote:Tomorrow LCS will start at 17:00 CET. Now I can't watch the first game
Where does it say that?
the schedule on lolesports.com still says 19.00
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The news about LCS starting earlier is about next week, not this one.
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Who would bet 10 euros now that fanatic, gambit and roccat go to worlds if you would get 100 euros back if true?
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On February 06 2014 10:36 TitusVI wrote:
Who would bet 10 euros now that fanatic, gambit and roccat go to worlds if you would get 100 euros back if true?
Way to early for that. Worlds is more then half a year away, anything can change.
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I wouldn't. I don't see who could outperform Roccat right now, but we still have an entire split for roster changes and levelups. Maybe we'll get a new superteam, or SHC will improve their shotcalling and start wrecking everybody, or SK gets a new jungler, or NiP gets back into LCS and plays like Lemondogs did, or maybe some Asian team moves to Europe like LMQ did to NA. Or xPeke goes on vacation and Rekkles breaks his hand, who knows.
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On February 06 2014 10:44 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 10:36 TitusVI wrote:
Who would bet 10 euros now that fanatic, gambit and roccat go to worlds if you would get 100 euros back if true? Way to early for that. Worlds is more then half a year away, anything can change.
Ye I remember like mid-summer going on how NiP/Atn were locks for worlds yet in the end they fought to avoid relegation (Granted both came heavily down to unexpected factors)
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I don't think we have seen enough Roccat to know how consistent they are. But I would do it if the bet was that 2 out of 3 make it to worlds. I see Fnatic/Gambit fluking as less likely, but it could still happen. And you never know with EU LCS, some teams go bust, others improve. I'd really like it if SHC/Alliance perform better, because they look like they could be incredibly fun to watch if they catch their stride.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
To guys who want to predict Worlds right now.
Remember where was SK in Spring and where did they end in Summer?
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 07 2014 02:56 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
To guys who want to predict Worlds right now.
Remember where was SK in Spring and where did they end in Summer?
To be fair that was a split with dragonborn, giants, aAa and copenhagen wolves starting 0-9 AND aAa forfeiting their playoff match vs SK due to dioud's personal problems. Considering how hard gambit and EG ran over them I don't think many were expecting them to make top 4 again.
Hell they could have made the playoffs if kev1n didn't chase mimer's shen under the inhib turret at mid.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 07 2014 03:01 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 02:56 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
To guys who want to predict Worlds right now.
Remember where was SK in Spring and where did they end in Summer? To be fair that was a split with dragonborn, giants, aAa and copenhagen wolves starting 0-9 AND aAa forfeiting their playoff match vs SK due to dioud's personal problems. Considering how hard gambit and EG ran over them I don't think many were expecting them to make top 4 again. Hell they could have made the playoffs if kev1n didn't chase mimer's shen under the inhib turret at mid.
It's just an example about what can happen.
Dunno, i'm only sure in SKT T1 on Worlds.
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On February 07 2014 03:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 03:01 Fusilero wrote:On February 07 2014 02:56 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
To guys who want to predict Worlds right now.
Remember where was SK in Spring and where did they end in Summer? To be fair that was a split with dragonborn, giants, aAa and copenhagen wolves starting 0-9 AND aAa forfeiting their playoff match vs SK due to dioud's personal problems. Considering how hard gambit and EG ran over them I don't think many were expecting them to make top 4 again. Hell they could have made the playoffs if kev1n didn't chase mimer's shen under the inhib turret at mid. It's just an example about what can happen. Dunno, i'm only sure in SKT T1 on Worlds.
The only sure is najin shield, rito pls nerf BW synergy.
Also that SGS will dominate the SEA qualifier until the grand finals where they will lose 0-2
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On February 07 2014 02:56 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
To guys who want to predict Worlds right now.
Remember where was SK in Spring and where did they end in Summer?
Gambit and fanatic are always favorite for top 3.
Roccad is not a one trick pony like mym and they show they can addapt to enemy playstile.
So its not a bad bet considering you get 10 times the amount of what you have bet.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 07 2014 03:10 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 03:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 03:01 Fusilero wrote:On February 07 2014 02:56 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
To guys who want to predict Worlds right now.
Remember where was SK in Spring and where did they end in Summer? To be fair that was a split with dragonborn, giants, aAa and copenhagen wolves starting 0-9 AND aAa forfeiting their playoff match vs SK due to dioud's personal problems. Considering how hard gambit and EG ran over them I don't think many were expecting them to make top 4 again. Hell they could have made the playoffs if kev1n didn't chase mimer's shen under the inhib turret at mid. It's just an example about what can happen. Dunno, i'm only sure in SKT T1 on Worlds. The only sure is najin shield, rito pls nerf BW synergy. Also that SGS will dominate the SEA qualifier until the grand finals where they will lose 0-2
1-2, because they will win winners bracket.
On February 07 2014 03:13 TitusVI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 02:56 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
To guys who want to predict Worlds right now.
Remember where was SK in Spring and where did they end in Summer? Gambit and fanatic are always favorite for top 3. Roccad is not a one trick pony like mym and they show they can addapt to enemy playstile. So its not a bad bet considering you get 10 times the amount of what you have bet.
Gambit and Fnatic are good, but they were basically one step from falling into hell last time. Okay, Fnatic was in two steps.
And considering that Summer Split will have NiP instead of SHC and probably even C9EU without k0u instead of SK or Wolves, i won't try to predict anything in Summer even in Week 9.
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I think Gambit and Fnatic are probably shoe-ins for Worlds, from EU. 3rd slot is probably a toss up between Roccat and CW.
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On February 07 2014 03:14 wei2coolman wrote:
I think Gambit and Fnatic are probably shoe-ins for Worlds, from EU. 3rd slot is probably a toss up between Roccat and CW.
Yea, because nothing will change in 6 months...
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Not sold on NiP, they're getting carried fairly hard by amin and zorozero atm. Amin won't be able to play next split if NiP qualify so the new jungler would have some big shoes to fill.
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On February 07 2014 03:19 Fusilero wrote:
Not sold on NiP, they're getting carried fairly hard by amin and zorozero atm. Amin won't be able to play next split if NiP qualify so the new jungler would have some big shoes to fill.
Right, i forgot that he's 16. Oh well.
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On February 07 2014 03:16 orzeu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 03:14 wei2coolman wrote:
I think Gambit and Fnatic are probably shoe-ins for Worlds, from EU. 3rd slot is probably a toss up between Roccat and CW. Yea, because nothing will change in 6 months...
Seriously. We dont even know how this spilt is gonna end, let alone summer split.
You would think people learn from former splits, but nope lol.
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On February 07 2014 03:16 orzeu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 03:14 wei2coolman wrote:
I think Gambit and Fnatic are probably shoe-ins for Worlds, from EU. 3rd slot is probably a toss up between Roccat and CW. Yea, because nothing will change in 6 months...
well, fnatic and gambit have shown to be top tier team for long period of times.
3rd slot maybe might be taken by NiP from challenger scene, if they can manage to not fuck up getting into LCS.
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On February 07 2014 03:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 03:19 Fusilero wrote:
Not sold on NiP, they're getting carried fairly hard by amin and zorozero atm. Amin won't be able to play next split if NiP qualify so the new jungler would have some big shoes to fill. Right, i forgot that he's 16. Oh well.
I mean, if nukeduck stops losing mid to everyone and needing amin to bail him and mithy/freeze actually play as well as they can NiP could be contenders again but nukeduck is really determined to go the ambition route of being broken by faker.
That's my main concern of NiP, without amin to bail him I really see nukeduck struggling. SK Prime should also be considered imo but ginsu really drags them down.
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On February 07 2014 03:21 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 03:16 orzeu wrote:On February 07 2014 03:14 wei2coolman wrote:
I think Gambit and Fnatic are probably shoe-ins for Worlds, from EU. 3rd slot is probably a toss up between Roccat and CW. Yea, because nothing will change in 6 months... Seriously. We dont even know how this spilt is gonna end, let alone summer split. You would think people learn from former splits, but nope lol.
Um. What I learned from previous splits:
Spring Split 2013: Fnatic 1st Place
Summer Split 2013: Fnatic 1st Place
Worlds: Fnatic 1st in groups, Ro4 finish
so yeah, not much changed in an entire year.
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new championselect /ban interfaceoverlay?
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Woah, this new interface.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
God, this new spectator screen.
Those letters are bigger than in new twitter.
On February 07 2014 03:23 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 03:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 03:19 Fusilero wrote:
Not sold on NiP, they're getting carried fairly hard by amin and zorozero atm. Amin won't be able to play next split if NiP qualify so the new jungler would have some big shoes to fill. Right, i forgot that he's 16. Oh well. I mean, if nukeduck stops losing mid to everyone and needing amin to bail him and mithy/freeze actually play as well as they can NiP could be contenders again but nukeduck is really determined to go the ambition route of being broken by faker. That's my main concern of NiP, without amin to bail him I really see nukeduck struggling. SK Prime should also be considered imo but ginsu really drags them down.
I guess, he's over-confident of himself especially after this interview on ongamers.
It worked a bit in Summer Split, but not now.
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Annie banned, thanks god.
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Alliance with the Pantheon.
I guess we have to root for them now...
;..;
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Mantheon higher priority than Lee Sin. This is a good jungle meta.
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On February 07 2014 03:24 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 03:21 Redox wrote:On February 07 2014 03:16 orzeu wrote:On February 07 2014 03:14 wei2coolman wrote:
I think Gambit and Fnatic are probably shoe-ins for Worlds, from EU. 3rd slot is probably a toss up between Roccat and CW. Yea, because nothing will change in 6 months... Seriously. We dont even know how this spilt is gonna end, let alone summer split. You would think people learn from former splits, but nope lol. Um. What I learned from previous splits: Spring Split 2013: Fnatic 1st Place Summer Split 2013: Fnatic 1st Place Worlds: Fnatic 1st in groups, Ro4 finish so yeah, not much changed in an entire year.
What an extremely simplified view. Guess can be excused by being a Fnatic fan, but still.
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Quickshot plz, Froggen play fuck tone of Pantheon in soloq.
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Hmmm, avoiding heavy tanks after the trundle first pick.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Lmao, Fnatic.
Considering that it's sOAZ, i won't be surprised if he smashes.
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fnatic smartly countering the early trundle pick.
This is why you don't early pick Trundle....
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soaz plays the weirdest champions
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Zorozero was playing toplane LB a lot, maybe Soaz too.
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Fnatic going double AP again. I am not convinced.
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On February 07 2014 03:28 orzeu wrote:
Zorozero was playing toplane LB a lot, maybe Soaz too.
That pillar wont do much against Leblanc. :D
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Soaz finally gets his double AP comp again! Let's see it.
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You say that not picking tanks counters Trundle but is it worth it to end up with no real tank.
Im not convinced.
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LB and Orianna on the same team in one game?
My two favorite champs, let's do this! Gogo xD
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The Voyboy virus made it over the pond...
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On February 07 2014 03:28 Amethyst21 wrote:
fnatic smartly countering the early trundle pick.
This is why you don't early pick Trundle....
The blind trundle pick has got to be the dumbest development I've seen in s4. Yes, he's a nice counterpick to the usual top lane shenanigans, but to blind pick it is going full retard.
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On February 07 2014 03:28 Amethyst21 wrote:
fnatic smartly countering the early trundle pick.
This is why you don't early pick Trundle....
Noone shits harder on trundle than jayce. I wish someone already did that and people lern to not early pick trundle.
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what the fuck was the plan there lol
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Hipster Fnatic strikes again.
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Let's see if Froggen's gragas has gotten better.
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God Cyanide is so far behind now Oo didnt even get any help on red.
and yet he is being faster then Pantheon... lol
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What Quickshot Ori vs Gragas is favoured to Gragas imo. I think we'll see Froggen try a lvl 6 kill.
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Froggen farming that wraith camp while pantheon just walks past quietly weeping.
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On February 07 2014 03:38 Gorsameth wrote:
God Cyanide is so far behind now Oo didnt even get any help on red.
and yet he is being faster then Pantheon... lol
i'm pretty sure pantheon's first clear is one of the slowest out of fotm.
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Cyanide went full retard.
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Well i disagree with Joe, wicked is doing great. LeBlanc doesnt seem like a counter to trundle.
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wtf is this shit comp from fnc
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On February 07 2014 03:45 Silvanel wrote:
Well i disagree with Joe, wicked is doing great. LeBlanc doesnt seem like a counter to trundle.
equal farm favors leblanc in this team comp though.
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qu1ckshot pretty good at match-up analysis...
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Jesus tabzz what was that
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Why is cyanide building damage on jungle lee sin? O.o
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On February 07 2014 03:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Why is cyanide building damage on jungle lee sin? O.o
I just tuned in and I'm beyond confused.
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I bet fanatic has some gold runes
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
I don't think sotl lee sin is that bad. But you have to actually do something with that sotl.
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Cyanide is doing nothing. Camping top all day without anything happening.
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xpeke being really cheeky not taking a 2nd point in E, this far into the game.
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On February 07 2014 03:49 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 03:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Why is cyanide building damage on jungle lee sin? O.o I just tuned in and I'm beyond confused.
Think that's his standard build. Even if that's so this game they desperately need a tank.
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On February 07 2014 03:50 Redox wrote:
Cyanide is doing nothing. Camping top all day without anything happening.
Like every game after Worlds.
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these are some truly LOL worthy dives from Cyanide and fnatic
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Reaching a conclusion, alliance can only win in even numbered weeks
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On February 07 2014 03:53 Fusilero wrote:
Reaching a conclusion, alliance can only win in even numbered weeks
Only 2 remaining members from EG.
all even numbered weeks are multiples of 2.
it makes sense.
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finally Froggen showing good plays on Gragas.
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Alliance usually does well during the laning. Gotta wait and see what happens during team fights.
I'm hoping for an Alliance win though because that would be the funniest result.
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On February 07 2014 03:55 AsnSensation wrote:
finally Froggen showing good plays on Gragas.
Also has to do with Ori being a great matchup.
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I woder if Allaince knows what to do now after they have the first 3 towers or wander around aimlessly again.
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On February 07 2014 03:56 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 03:55 AsnSensation wrote:
finally Froggen showing good plays on Gragas. Also has to do with Ori being a great matchup.
And xpeke refusing to get more than one point on shield.
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Fnatic don't look too sharp today. First that Yellowstar play, and now Cyanide kicking Froggen out of Peke's ult.
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Dat shockwave... peke pls
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It's not even that the rest of his team does damage, it's that Fnatic have no tank and no armor
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It's like Fnatic just woke up today and decided they didn't want to be undefeated win anymore.
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Tank Lucian, the dream is real.
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i bet 5 euros alliance,gambit and shc win
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Froggen went full Shizoli that fight. Luckily they were so ahead they made it an even trade.
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Looks like fnatic might be entering another one of their 'inexplicable slump' stages
Alliance have played pretty well overall to be completely fair
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On February 07 2014 03:59 onlywonderboy wrote:
It's like Fnatic just woke up today and decided they didn't want to be undefeated anymore.
Gambit already took them down last week :D
np nothing to worry about just one of those games fnatic has once in a while where they go full retard already in champ select.
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On February 07 2014 03:59 onlywonderboy wrote:
It's like Fnatic just woke up today and decided they didn't want to be undefeated anymore.
They already lost one before.
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On February 07 2014 04:00 Amethyst21 wrote:
Looks like fnatic might be entering another one of their 'inexplicable slump' stages
Alliance have played pretty well overall to be completely fair
The game is close enough that I can see FNC scaling fine into lategame, and winning with a fnatic bush.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
I guess, if i had bet always for last 2 years on CLG, CLG.eu, EG and [A], i could be in permanent 0.
[A] are playing smart tonight, i'm satisfied :D #hopeisalive
<33
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On February 07 2014 03:59 Swords wrote:
It's not even that the rest of his team does damage, it's that Fnatic have no tank and no armor
As i said before. I don't think not picking tanks to 'counter' Trundle is worth it. you need tanky people to stand infront and disrupt things.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 07 2014 03:59 onlywonderboy wrote:
It's like Fnatic just woke up today and decided they didn't want to be undefeated anymore.
Fnatic sometimes just give up on thinking drafts through and pick TF into fizz with no barrier or gives up kassadin
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if they get a farmed lb they might be able to oneshot someone
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Soaz still a fucking beast, jesus.
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fucking xpeke needs to land a fucking shockwave, and soaz didn't do shit that fight. Rekkles trying to carry this team as hard as possible.
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damn, thats inhib if Soaz didn't live with sub 100 hp
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Peke has been pretty lackluster lately but the rest of Fnatic was so dominant it didn't matter.
Not this time though!
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Finally Alliance showing their potential 
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United States23745 Posts
On February 07 2014 04:00 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 03:59 onlywonderboy wrote:
It's like Fnatic just woke up today and decided they didn't want to be undefeated anymore. They already lost one before.
Beginning of the end gg.
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xpeke playing like an NA midlaner.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 07 2014 04:05 wei2coolman wrote:
xpeke playing like an NA midlaner.
Which one, chauster or hotshot?
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Vancouver14381 Posts
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Alliance taking some time for a quick jerk at mid, easy going.
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This is unfortunately what happens when Soaz/Xpeke are useless
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
LOL WHY DID SHOOK FLASH OVER
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Shook underestimated Froggen's damage.
But daaaaamn.
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On February 07 2014 04:06 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:05 wei2coolman wrote:
xpeke playing like an NA midlaner. Which one, chauster or hotshot?
hotshot has landed more spears than peke has landed ulti's
i actually feel bad for rekkles, this guy has to fucking carry this scrub team, this game.
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enjoy it guys GA Gragas this is the closest thing we are going to get to Froggen Anivia for a long time.
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Stream's died for me; did Alliance take baron?
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Yeah Whitezz broke xPeke, he's been slumping since worlds
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On February 07 2014 04:09 Haasts wrote:
Stream's died for me; did Alliance take baron?
yup
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Australia18228 Posts
2 APs and neither does any dmg lol
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On February 07 2014 04:09 Haasts wrote:
Stream's died for me; did Alliance take baron?
yes
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I don't get picking Caitlyn and then no front line, Rekkles is just unable to get any sustained damage in fights.
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On February 07 2014 04:09 Haasts wrote:
Stream's died for me; did Alliance take baron?
Mine too. Looks like when people start to spam when something happens and your stream is a few seconds behind it laggs.
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United States23745 Posts
On February 07 2014 04:08 Numy wrote:
This is unfortunately what happens when Soaz/Xpeke are useless
Nope, this is clearly Rekkles' fault.
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So I just got home and hoped I might be able to catch the end of Fnatics stomp of Alliance. What is this? Who am I?
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For fucks sake Tabzz I want to be your fan, stop getting caught with stupid shit.
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On February 07 2014 04:10 Inflicted_ wrote:
2 APs and neither does any dmg lol
2 AP's, and 1 keeps missing all their ulti's, so only 1 AP is actually trying to do dmg.
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would be funny if alliance lost to this kind of comp tho.
never going to work.
gg can i has roccat plz
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
So this is what happens when soaz can't also carry
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Yeah that LB top is not working out. And picking Trundle first was perfectly fine.
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Nothing is as funny as the number 1 team losing to the number 8 team this badly.
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Rekkles being 3/0/2 with his team having an indifferent tankline and a midlaner that is being consistently blown up is nothing short of amazing.
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On February 07 2014 04:12 Redox wrote:
Yeah that LB top is not working out. And picking Trundle first was perfectly fine.
I don't know how LB top is getting flack for this, and not xpeke? rofl, you guys are so funny.
just cuz unorthodox pick doesn't win a game, doesn't mean the unorthodox pick was the reason for the game loss.
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Lol Tabzz again playing tank.
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OH HEY. XPEKE LANDED A SHOCKWAVE.
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2nd BT over IE, which probably means that Alliance wants to end right now.
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On February 07 2014 04:13 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:12 Redox wrote:
Yeah that LB top is not working out. And picking Trundle first was perfectly fine. I don't know how LB top is getting flack for this, and not xpeke? rofl, you guys are so funny. just cuz unorthodox pick doesn't win a game, doesn't mean the unorthodox pick was the reason for the game loss.
^ Imo lack of early plays for Fnatic just gave Alliance way too much time and gold to get mr.
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On February 07 2014 04:13 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:12 Redox wrote:
Yeah that LB top is not working out. And picking Trundle first was perfectly fine. I don't know how LB top is getting flack for this, and not xpeke? rofl, you guys are so funny. just cuz unorthodox pick doesn't win a game, doesn't mean the unorthodox pick was the reason for the game loss.
It's a bit of both imo
They can keep diving peke cause of the lb pick
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Manly Tabzz got second bt.
Hadn't seen it since Genja bought 3 for MF :D
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Rekkles can't even get close enough to auto attack during team fight against Alliance.
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I can't stop laughing at the fact that Tabzz keeps eating hooks but isn't dead yet.
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wow tabzz pulling a genja
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loooool Guardian angel bait.
RIP Rekkles.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 07 2014 04:16 RouaF wrote:
wow tabzz pulling a genja
"Too much attack speed" - Genja
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On February 07 2014 04:13 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:12 Redox wrote:
Yeah that LB top is not working out. And picking Trundle first was perfectly fine. I don't know how LB top is getting flack for this, and not xpeke? rofl, you guys are so funny. just cuz unorthodox pick doesn't win a game, doesn't mean the unorthodox pick was the reason for the game loss.
Xpeke didn't play well this game, but Cyanide spent the first 15 minutes sitting in toplane trying to get Soaz going but it failed completely. It essentially took all pressure off of Froggen and botlane, and they couldn't even dive Wickd to get a kill.
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On February 07 2014 04:13 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:12 Redox wrote:
Yeah that LB top is not working out. And picking Trundle first was perfectly fine. I don't know how LB top is getting flack for this, and not xpeke? rofl, you guys are so funny. just cuz unorthodox pick doesn't win a game, doesn't mean the unorthodox pick was the reason for the game loss.
If you play without a tank you kind of have to do something in the midgame to justify that. Also Fnatic put a lot of resources into top lane, while Allaince put theirs into mid. Only the latter worked out.
But true xPeke didnt have a good game.
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30% CDR Leona has a scary cd on her ult...
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Vancouver14381 Posts
Poll: Recommend Fnatic vs Alliance Spring Week 4?Yes (13) 76% No (2) 12% If you have time (2) 12% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend Fnatic vs Alliance Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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Fnatic picks were good. Just Cyanide did nothing, Yellowstar is bad thresh and Froggen outplayed Xpeke.
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Peke finally landing a possible shockwave couldn't resist using it, even if it was for an isolated 100hp Trundle who has GA. GJ !
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
My favourite cyanide play this match was the one where he ganked top and did nothing. I don't get why people think he's as good as jankos or diamond.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Can i have permanent 10% for [A]?
:D
GG WP #LongLiveAlliance <33
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I have yet to see a LB who didn't get kills in the lane phase be impactful, and the fact she was taking the slot typically occupied by the tank role just magnified that, this is not a shot at soaz.
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On February 07 2014 04:17 orzeu wrote:
Fnatic picks were good. Just Cyanide did nothing, Yellowstar is bad thresh and Froggen outplayed Xpeke.
Ori was a bad pick. How is she supposed to win lane? Gragas has innate sustain, Ori doesn't. Gragas has more mobility and can E when she Q's in. With equal skill Gragas has advantage.
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On February 07 2014 04:17 Alaric wrote:
30% CDR Leona has a scary cd on her ult...
0% cdr leona has a scary cd on her ult.
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On February 07 2014 04:16 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:13 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 04:12 Redox wrote:
Yeah that LB top is not working out. And picking Trundle first was perfectly fine. I don't know how LB top is getting flack for this, and not xpeke? rofl, you guys are so funny. just cuz unorthodox pick doesn't win a game, doesn't mean the unorthodox pick was the reason for the game loss. It's a bit of both imo They can keep diving peke cause of the lb pick
No, xpeke lost lane straight up against froggen, cuz he's too arrogant to pick up more poitns in shield against that matchup, and fucking Cyanide didn't do shit at all early game.
The leblanc pick was genius imo.
look at alliance's defensive itemization.
Wicked picked up GA as 3rd item after SV + BotRK, meaning Caitlyn gets ez pz damage on Alliance's front line, and Pantheon JUST picked up randuins. The whole point of Leblanc pick was to force the early Bveil from Lucian (notice how he got bveil before even his triforce? he wasn't doing jack shit for damage), and to force toplaner to build MR instead of Armor.
The LB pick was good, Xpeke and cyanide lost the game for fnatic this game.
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On February 07 2014 04:19 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:17 orzeu wrote:
Fnatic picks were good. Just Cyanide did nothing, Yellowstar is bad thresh and Froggen outplayed Xpeke. Ori was a bad pick. How is she supposed to win lane? Gragas has innate sustain, Ori doesn't. Gragas has more mobility and can E when she Q's in. With equal skill Gragas has advantage.
Well clearly they thought vs alliance it wasn't equal skill eheuheuhehe
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On February 07 2014 04:18 Fusilero wrote:
My favourite cyanide play this match was the one where he ganked top and did nothing. I don't get why people think he's as good as jankos or diamond.
He has no impact on Fnatic games for long time now. He is good team player but that's all.
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On February 07 2014 04:17 orzeu wrote:
Fnatic picks were good. Just Cyanide did nothing, Yellowstar is bad thresh and Froggen outplayed Xpeke.
no they weren't you don't pick orianna with 0 aoe followup, you don't pick leblanc if you can't snowball, but it's fine it's the regular season and it's a standard "fnatic loss" most of the time they lose when picking shit and trying weird stuff.
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On February 07 2014 04:18 Fusilero wrote:
My favourite cyanide play this match was the one where he ganked top and did nothing. I don't get why people think he's as good as jankos or diamond.
Most likely because at worlds he wasn't too bad which is the only time I've ever seen him be useful. Guess Aatrox made a lot of people seem useful.
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Well pantheon ult plus gragas ult is strong. wtf was fanatic doing embarrasing.
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Soaz going for unorthodox picks when tank meta is so good at the moment. Everyone played like trash except for Rekkles though.
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On February 07 2014 04:18 Slusher wrote:
I have yet to see a LB who didn't get kills in the lane phase be impactful, and the fact she was taking the slot typically occupied by the tank role just magnified that, this is not a shot at soaz.
Misanalyzation on your part.
Leblanc wasn't behind in gold/min, compared to midlane.
the only reason leblance looks like she needs kills in lane to be impactful, is often in midlane she can't CS compared to the AoE shove/clear of other midlaners, so to make up for lack of CS dying to tower, she has to get kills.
but in top lane against trundle she had free farm, so she wasn't actually losing out in CS.
Also, notice Soaz got so big that it forced Tabbz to get Bveil as 2nd item, instead of triforce, also delayed wick'd from building Armor/Health item until after GA (which was his 3rd item), allowing Rekkles to have far more impact in game.
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On February 07 2014 04:18 Fusilero wrote:
My favourite cyanide play this match was the one where he ganked top and did nothing. I don't get why people think he's as good as jankos or diamond.
That's not really fair. Wickd was playing out of his mind this game with some really good pillars/flashes to stop Cyanide's ganks.
Basically, Wickd flashed well and lived. xPeke flashed poorly and died.
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So THATS how Alliance have looked in their scrims?
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On February 07 2014 04:22 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:18 Slusher wrote:
I have yet to see a LB who didn't get kills in the lane phase be impactful, and the fact she was taking the slot typically occupied by the tank role just magnified that, this is not a shot at soaz. Misanalyzation on your part. Leblanc wasn't behind in gold/min, compared to midlane. the only reason leblance looks like she needs kills in lane to be impactful, is often in midlane she can't CS compared to the AoE shove/clear of other midlaners, so to make up for lack of CS dying to tower, she has to get kills. but in top lane against trundle she had free farm, so she wasn't actually losing out in CS. Also, notice Soaz got so big that it forced Tabbz to get Bveil as 2nd item, instead of triforce, also delayed wick'd from building Armor/Health item until after GA (which was his 3rd item), allowing Rekkles to have far more impact in game.
except the extremely common in NA W max build accomplishes this same thing and has not been that impressive either
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It doesnt matter how little armor Alliance has if there is nothing keeping Rekkles safe.
You need tanky guys in there team disrupting. Alliance had free reign over teamfights because Lee Sin couldnt do it.
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United States15536 Posts
ALL > FNC?
What world am I living in again?
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Froggen killed xpeke 1 v 1 that should not happen. Anyway fanaatic looked pretty tired at the start of this game-
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On February 07 2014 04:19 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:16 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 07 2014 04:13 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 04:12 Redox wrote:
Yeah that LB top is not working out. And picking Trundle first was perfectly fine. I don't know how LB top is getting flack for this, and not xpeke? rofl, you guys are so funny. just cuz unorthodox pick doesn't win a game, doesn't mean the unorthodox pick was the reason for the game loss. It's a bit of both imo They can keep diving peke cause of the lb pick No, xpeke lost lane straight up against froggen, cuz he's too arrogant to pick up more poitns in shield against that matchup, and fucking Cyanide didn't do shit at all early game. The leblanc pick was genius imo. look at alliance's defensive itemization. Wicked picked up GA as 3rd item after SV + BotRK, meaning Caitlyn gets ez pz damage on Alliance's front line, and Pantheon JUST picked up randuins. The whole point of Leblanc pick was to force the early Bveil from Lucian (notice how he got bveil before even his triforce? he wasn't doing jack shit for damage), and to force toplaner to build MR instead of Armor. The LB pick was good, Xpeke and cyanide lost the game for fnatic this game.
I don't think it was a bad pick, just the rest of the gameplan was off. The goal was obviously to have Soaz be the ap carry and xPeke be the utility ap, but Cyanide didn't get anything going toplane, xPeke didn't go utility (no points in shield), and Cyanide also just built damage to start off, which made him basically useless until he got randuins. I don't think it was a very good gameplan because Shook always camps Froggen, and Cyanide always being top gave Alliance free dragons and free botlane pressure (Rekkles and Yellowstar did a fantastic job getting a big early lead and then lost it because Alliance could send 4 people bot for free with a ward on Cyanide top).
To me it made more sense to let Soaz do his thing toplane and hope he bullies Trundle hard enough to get a lead, while using Lee Sin to help Ori/Thresh/Cait. But I'm bad at this game, so my analysis might be way off.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it.
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On February 07 2014 04:24 AsmodeusXI wrote:
ALL > FNC?
What world am I living in again?
The LCS always gives you the most hilarious results which is why the first game of the NA LCS C9 beat TSM with Teemo.
Alliance beating Fnatic shouldn't be surprising at all because of that.
On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it.
Honestly? Alliance's play was really shaky once they left laning. They gave plenty of chances for Fnatic to come back.
Their shotcalling still needs work.
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oh damn i had Us starting time in my head -.-
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I hope deficio doesnt cast today.
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On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it.
People enjoy complaining.
I've been criticizing fnatic a bunch, but Alliance did a great job adapting to fnatic's weird picks that game and played it out very well. That was a nice step forward from them.
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On February 07 2014 04:23 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:22 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 04:18 Slusher wrote:
I have yet to see a LB who didn't get kills in the lane phase be impactful, and the fact she was taking the slot typically occupied by the tank role just magnified that, this is not a shot at soaz. Misanalyzation on your part. Leblanc wasn't behind in gold/min, compared to midlane. the only reason leblance looks like she needs kills in lane to be impactful, is often in midlane she can't CS compared to the AoE shove/clear of other midlaners, so to make up for lack of CS dying to tower, she has to get kills. but in top lane against trundle she had free farm, so she wasn't actually losing out in CS. Also, notice Soaz got so big that it forced Tabbz to get Bveil as 2nd item, instead of triforce, also delayed wick'd from building Armor/Health item until after GA (which was his 3rd item), allowing Rekkles to have far more impact in game. except the extremely common in NA W max build accomplishes this same thing and has not been that impressive either
Even W max doesn't give her the same waveclear as Gragas/Ziggs, also it puts her in risk of getting wrekt against those 2.
I'm pretty sure if you look at Gold/min in lane wise. Soaz probably kept up with a midlane version of LB who got a couple of solo kills in lane.
Against trundle, who has no waveclear, she does fine. Might not have kill potential but splitting even with free farm is fine imo.
It's not like Soaz didn't have impact in the game, again, look at how Tabbz had to build, the Leblanc pick essentially made Trundle build MR, against a very strong Rekkles, and Tabz to build tanky so early.
On February 07 2014 04:25 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:19 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 04:16 Inflicted_ wrote:On February 07 2014 04:13 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 04:12 Redox wrote:
Yeah that LB top is not working out. And picking Trundle first was perfectly fine. I don't know how LB top is getting flack for this, and not xpeke? rofl, you guys are so funny. just cuz unorthodox pick doesn't win a game, doesn't mean the unorthodox pick was the reason for the game loss. It's a bit of both imo They can keep diving peke cause of the lb pick No, xpeke lost lane straight up against froggen, cuz he's too arrogant to pick up more poitns in shield against that matchup, and fucking Cyanide didn't do shit at all early game. The leblanc pick was genius imo. look at alliance's defensive itemization. Wicked picked up GA as 3rd item after SV + BotRK, meaning Caitlyn gets ez pz damage on Alliance's front line, and Pantheon JUST picked up randuins. The whole point of Leblanc pick was to force the early Bveil from Lucian (notice how he got bveil before even his triforce? he wasn't doing jack shit for damage), and to force toplaner to build MR instead of Armor. The LB pick was good, Xpeke and cyanide lost the game for fnatic this game. I don't think it was a bad pick, just the rest of the gameplan was off. The goal was obviously to have Soaz be the ap carry and xPeke be the utility ap, but Cyanide didn't get anything going toplane, xPeke didn't go utility (no points in shield), and Cyanide also just built damage to start off, which made him basically useless until he got randuins. I don't think it was a very good gameplan because Shook always camps Froggen, and Cyanide always being top gave Alliance free dragons and free botlane pressure (Rekkles and Yellowstar did a fantastic job getting a big early lead and then lost it because Alliance could send 4 people bot for free with a ward on Cyanide top). To me it made more sense to let Soaz do his thing toplane and hope he bullies Trundle hard enough to get a lead, while using Lee Sin to help Ori/Thresh/Cait. But I'm bad at this game, so my analysis might be way off.
Yeah, the picks in isolation were pretty good if played out correctly, but misplay, plus not fitting Fnatic's usual playstyle probably the biggest reason why it looked bad.
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On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it.
Because most of these games are characterized by poor play from the losers as opposed to good play from the winners.
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When teams are playing a huge bunch of bo1 there is going to be some weird results just due to variance.
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On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it.
People have higher expectation for the best team in Europe. Fnatic didn't play as well as well as they should have, it was a rare game where 2 of their 3 threats played mediocre
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On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it.
For the same reason people (*cough* like you *cough*) spend all of the NA LCS thread talking about the skill level of the teams /region instead of appreciating the games for what they are?
GG to [A]! Not sure I understood what Fnatic was going for there, but [A] was ALWAYS there for the counterplay or countergank. They exposed whatever Fnatic was trying to do.
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On February 07 2014 04:27 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it. People enjoy complaining. I've been criticizing fnatic a bunch, but Alliance did a great job adapting to fnatic's weird picks that game and played it out very well. That was a nice step forward from them.
I don't know if Froggen straight up shitting on Xpeke is really an "adapting".
Alliance just played out laning phase better, and snowballed.
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On February 07 2014 04:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it. Because most of these games are characterized by poor play from the losers as opposed to good play from the winners.
Fnatic might play poorly than they played while they were smashing almost everyone for 2,5 weeks, but you can't play poor if opposite team don't pressure you.
Millenium will stomp now, time to stop Roccat's hype train officially so they will start winning again.
On February 07 2014 04:30 Takkara wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it. For the same reason people (*cough* like you *cough*) spend all of the NA LCS thread talking about the skill level of the teams /region instead of appreciating the games for what they are?
I guess, i only said that you can't expect anything like SKT from NA and EU LCS.
Ah, and also i said 2 weeks ago that NA LCS is a "show" in comparing to EU LCS "competition".
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So every toplaner in EU now is playing LB. Interesting.
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On February 07 2014 04:30 orzeu wrote:
So every toplaner in EU now is playing LB. Interesting.
I want to see more of Freddy's top lane tristana.
I want to believe in unorthodox toplane picks!
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On February 07 2014 04:30 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:27 Swords wrote:On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it. People enjoy complaining. I've been criticizing fnatic a bunch, but Alliance did a great job adapting to fnatic's weird picks that game and played it out very well. That was a nice step forward from them. I don't know if Froggen straight up shitting on Xpeke is really an "adapting". Alliance just played out laning phase better, and snowballed.
When they had sight on Cyanide top they grouped as four and made plays on dragon and botlane. A week ago Froggen would've been farming wraiths while Shook looked around for him to gank midlane.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Prediction: Millenium gets ahead, kerp/aranae throws again. Roccat stumbles into a bizarre win
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United States23745 Posts
I heard on TL that Jungle Elise is pretty bad so idk Quickshot...
/huehuehue
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On February 07 2014 04:33 Fusilero wrote:
Prediction: Millenium gets ahead, kerp/aranae throws again. Roccat stumbles into a bizarre win
Wouldn't be mad.
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On February 07 2014 04:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it. Because most of these games are characterized by poor play from the losers as opposed to good play from the winners.
What is poor and what is good play is always relative and largely a matter of personal definition. People generally want to look as "pro" and knowledgable as possible, so of course they like to appear to have very high standards.
Cant commend a "mediocre" play, as that might make you look sub mediocre.
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On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it.
I think because the majority of things you do correctly in this game are extremely easy to take for granted. The only time you will ever see someone (let alone multiple people) say "great positioning by [adc that played a good teamfight]" is when said adc picks up multiple kills. Numerous other things are even harder to take note of because it's kind of impossible. The really good players are going to make timings based off missing cooldowns, lane manipulation, etc. But when we give a player credit for doing that, did they? And when we don't...did they? It's genuinely hard to say.
Meanwhile, if you screw one of those things up, it's instantly noticeable. Bad positioning? You're dead. Tower dove and they flashed out 'cause it just came up 10 seconds ago? Hard to miss. Bad mechanical play? Well...just look at that last game. Peke has a few bad ults, and a few fights where *he dies before he can even ult* because he's in a position where Leona can lock him down, and all you see are comments about his bad ults. I would venture to say that the fights where he didn't even get to cast his ult were far worse for his team, but it's far more subtle failure.
While it's true that internet culture is disappointingly one of tearing others down rather than building them up, I think there's more to it than just that if you want to truly answer that question.
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On February 07 2014 04:34 asymptotech wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it. I think because the majority of things you do correctly in this game are extremely easy to take for granted. The only time you will ever see someone (let alone multiple people) say "great positioning by [adc that played a good teamfight]" is when said adc picks up multiple kills. Numerous other things are even harder to take note of because it's kind of impossible. The really good players are going to make timings based off missing cooldowns, lane manipulation, etc. But when we give a player credit for doing that, did they? And when we don't...did they? It's genuinely hard to say. Meanwhile, if you screw one of those things up, it's instantly noticeable. Bad positioning? You're dead. Tower dove and they flashed out 'cause it just came up 10 seconds ago? Hard to miss. Bad mechanical play? Well...just look at that last game. Peke has a few bad ults, and a few fights where *he dies before he can even ult* because he's in a position where Leona can lock him down, and all you see are comments about his bad ults. I would venture to say that the fights where he didn't even get to cast his ult were far worse for his team, but it's far more subtle failure. While it's true that internet culture is disappointingly one of tearing others down rather than building them up, I think there's more to it than just that if you want to truly answer that question.
Or maybe, or just maybe.
xPeke, didn't get a 2nd point in E until after maxing Q and W first, against a shitty matchup.
or maybe, or just maybe.
cyanide built full retard when his team has no strong frontline, and fucked up top lane ganks a million times.
or maybe, or just maybe
xpeke didn't land a single ori ult until it was to late for fnatic to recover.
Alliance played better than they usually do, but the game was characterized by poor play from fnatic than above average play from alliance.
IMO, TL is pretty good about giving credit where credit is due.
when SKT wins their games, no one is like "oh that team played like shit, that's why SKT won". Nope, it's usually "wow, wtf SKT so good, unbeatable". Or could just be blind faker fanboism.
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Cyanide build = no free stats for trundle
Xpeke: Maxing w instead of e cause he got repeatly ganked and he need to farm
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Ghost/Flash ziggs, EU ripping off dade confirmed.
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On February 07 2014 04:42 skykh wrote:
Cyanide build = no free stats for trundle
Xpeke: Maxing w instead of e cause he got repeatly ganked and he need to farm
A 2nd point in E, doesn't make it harder for Ori to farm.
kiting ziggs is a bitch to play against, all that mobility makes him so strong.
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On February 07 2014 04:39 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:34 asymptotech wrote:On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it. I think because the majority of things you do correctly in this game are extremely easy to take for granted. The only time you will ever see someone (let alone multiple people) say "great positioning by [adc that played a good teamfight]" is when said adc picks up multiple kills. Numerous other things are even harder to take note of because it's kind of impossible. The really good players are going to make timings based off missing cooldowns, lane manipulation, etc. But when we give a player credit for doing that, did they? And when we don't...did they? It's genuinely hard to say. Meanwhile, if you screw one of those things up, it's instantly noticeable. Bad positioning? You're dead. Tower dove and they flashed out 'cause it just came up 10 seconds ago? Hard to miss. Bad mechanical play? Well...just look at that last game. Peke has a few bad ults, and a few fights where *he dies before he can even ult* because he's in a position where Leona can lock him down, and all you see are comments about his bad ults. I would venture to say that the fights where he didn't even get to cast his ult were far worse for his team, but it's far more subtle failure. While it's true that internet culture is disappointingly one of tearing others down rather than building them up, I think there's more to it than just that if you want to truly answer that question. Or maybe, or just maybe. xPeke, didn't get a 2nd point in E until after maxing Q and W first, against a shitty matchup. or maybe, or just maybe. cyanide built full retard when his team has no strong frontline, and fucked up top lane ganks a million times. or maybe, or just maybe xpeke didn't land a single ori ult until it was to late for fnatic to recover. Alliance played better than they usually do, but the game was characterized by poor play from fnatic than above average play from alliance. IMO, TL is pretty good about giving credit where credit is due. when SKT wins their games, no one is like "oh that team played like shit, that's why SKT won". Nope, it's usually "wow, wtf SKT so good, unbeatable". Or could just be blind faker fanboism.
I think TL is best at giving credit when a team approaches the performance we expect from "optimal play". When two flawed teams play a game, and one team wins by surpassing their usual flaws or better taking advantage of opponent flaws, then TL shits on the losing team because they don't want to say the winning team did well (they didn't, 'objectively'), they want to say the losing team was just worse than the opponent.
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I played trist and beat craton today with it I claim its my pick! :D
On a more serious note I dont like relic shield on thresh at all
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On February 07 2014 04:39 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:34 asymptotech wrote:On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it. I think because the majority of things you do correctly in this game are extremely easy to take for granted. The only time you will ever see someone (let alone multiple people) say "great positioning by [adc that played a good teamfight]" is when said adc picks up multiple kills. Numerous other things are even harder to take note of because it's kind of impossible. The really good players are going to make timings based off missing cooldowns, lane manipulation, etc. But when we give a player credit for doing that, did they? And when we don't...did they? It's genuinely hard to say. Meanwhile, if you screw one of those things up, it's instantly noticeable. Bad positioning? You're dead. Tower dove and they flashed out 'cause it just came up 10 seconds ago? Hard to miss. Bad mechanical play? Well...just look at that last game. Peke has a few bad ults, and a few fights where *he dies before he can even ult* because he's in a position where Leona can lock him down, and all you see are comments about his bad ults. I would venture to say that the fights where he didn't even get to cast his ult were far worse for his team, but it's far more subtle failure. While it's true that internet culture is disappointingly one of tearing others down rather than building them up, I think there's more to it than just that if you want to truly answer that question. Or maybe, or just maybe. xPeke, didn't get a 2nd point in E until after maxing Q and W first, against a shitty matchup. or maybe, or just maybe. cyanide built full retard when his team has no strong frontline, and fucked up top lane ganks a million times. or maybe, or just maybe xpeke didn't land a single ori ult until it was to late for fnatic to recover. Alliance played better than they usually do, but the game was characterized by poor play from fnatic than above average play from alliance. IMO, TL is pretty good about giving credit where credit is due. when SKT wins their games, no one is like "oh that team played like shit, that's why SKT won". Nope, it's usually "wow, wtf SKT so good, unbeatable". Or could just be blind faker fanboism.
Yeah taht is because you are "allowed" to fanboy for Korean plays. Take a replay of SKT, play it as live with the names of some NA team (except TSM) on their heads, and watch how the reactions to the plays are completely different.
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Did Vander miss the flay there?
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On February 07 2014 04:39 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:34 asymptotech wrote:On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it. I think because the majority of things you do correctly in this game are extremely easy to take for granted. The only time you will ever see someone (let alone multiple people) say "great positioning by [adc that played a good teamfight]" is when said adc picks up multiple kills. Numerous other things are even harder to take note of because it's kind of impossible. The really good players are going to make timings based off missing cooldowns, lane manipulation, etc. But when we give a player credit for doing that, did they? And when we don't...did they? It's genuinely hard to say. Meanwhile, if you screw one of those things up, it's instantly noticeable. Bad positioning? You're dead. Tower dove and they flashed out 'cause it just came up 10 seconds ago? Hard to miss. Bad mechanical play? Well...just look at that last game. Peke has a few bad ults, and a few fights where *he dies before he can even ult* because he's in a position where Leona can lock him down, and all you see are comments about his bad ults. I would venture to say that the fights where he didn't even get to cast his ult were far worse for his team, but it's far more subtle failure. While it's true that internet culture is disappointingly one of tearing others down rather than building them up, I think there's more to it than just that if you want to truly answer that question. Or maybe, or just maybe. xPeke, didn't get a 2nd point in E until after maxing Q and W first, against a shitty matchup. or maybe, or just maybe. cyanide built full retard when his team has no strong frontline, and fucked up top lane ganks a million times. or maybe, or just maybe xpeke didn't land a single ori ult until it was to late for fnatic to recover. Alliance played better than they usually do, but the game was characterized by poor play from fnatic than above average play from alliance. IMO, TL is pretty good about giving credit where credit is due. when SKT wins their games, no one is like "oh that team played like shit, that's why SKT won". Nope, it's usually "wow, wtf SKT so good, unbeatable". Or could just be blind faker fanboism.
My point was the general reaction of how ults are viewed vs positioning because of the immediate visual component. I'm not sure what strawman said that Peke played a perfect laning phase.
If the ganker and the gankee both play perfectly, does anyone die? If they both play it "75% of the way to perfect" and the gankee lives, did the ganker fuck up any more than the guy who lived? Perhaps (as it has been mentioned) Wickd simply outplayed them during the ganks?
TL is like any other mass of people. They're critics. I don't mean that negatively, it's just an objective truth of how people act.
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On February 07 2014 04:45 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:39 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 04:34 asymptotech wrote:On February 07 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Why the fuck everytime 80% are blaming losing team instead of praising winners? :D
I will never understand it. I think because the majority of things you do correctly in this game are extremely easy to take for granted. The only time you will ever see someone (let alone multiple people) say "great positioning by [adc that played a good teamfight]" is when said adc picks up multiple kills. Numerous other things are even harder to take note of because it's kind of impossible. The really good players are going to make timings based off missing cooldowns, lane manipulation, etc. But when we give a player credit for doing that, did they? And when we don't...did they? It's genuinely hard to say. Meanwhile, if you screw one of those things up, it's instantly noticeable. Bad positioning? You're dead. Tower dove and they flashed out 'cause it just came up 10 seconds ago? Hard to miss. Bad mechanical play? Well...just look at that last game. Peke has a few bad ults, and a few fights where *he dies before he can even ult* because he's in a position where Leona can lock him down, and all you see are comments about his bad ults. I would venture to say that the fights where he didn't even get to cast his ult were far worse for his team, but it's far more subtle failure. While it's true that internet culture is disappointingly one of tearing others down rather than building them up, I think there's more to it than just that if you want to truly answer that question. Or maybe, or just maybe. xPeke, didn't get a 2nd point in E until after maxing Q and W first, against a shitty matchup. or maybe, or just maybe. cyanide built full retard when his team has no strong frontline, and fucked up top lane ganks a million times. or maybe, or just maybe xpeke didn't land a single ori ult until it was to late for fnatic to recover. Alliance played better than they usually do, but the game was characterized by poor play from fnatic than above average play from alliance. IMO, TL is pretty good about giving credit where credit is due. when SKT wins their games, no one is like "oh that team played like shit, that's why SKT won". Nope, it's usually "wow, wtf SKT so good, unbeatable". Or could just be blind faker fanboism. Yeah taht is because you are "allowed" to fanboy for Korean plays. Take a replay of SKT, play it as live with the names of some NA team (except TSM) on their heads, and watch how the reactions to the plays are completely different.
Well, just look at last weeks game of CLG vs Curse, both teams were given great amount of credit in thread.
Curse with strong early game objective centered control, vs CLG's ability to defend, and teamfight to the win.
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On February 07 2014 04:45 Swords wrote:
Did Vander miss the flay there?
He hit the flay, just did it too early so the knock up and slow never went through. (Common bug)
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can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance
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HOLY SHIT, KERP. THEM BALLS. SO FUCKING HUGE
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that ziggs build :D he will afk farm wraiths
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Well then, that's new overpow.
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On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance
Millenium: shyvana, elise, gragas, tristana, lulu
ROCCAT: Renekton, pantheon, ziggs, ezreal, thresh
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On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance
mil: shyv/elise/grags/trist/lulu
roc: renekton/panth/ziggz/ez/thresh.
kerp picks up first blood as gragas on ziggs, in between towers, gets out without dying,
score is mil 1:0 roccat. 11.2k vs 10.8k, 8:45 in game.
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That was a good call for Araneae to actually run away and not just get lazy and recall in that bush.
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Mil tries to 2v1 renekton under turret. Renekton lives with like 100 hp, both shyv and elise escape from failed gank with sub 100 health each.
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On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance
{M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu
Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh.
First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes.
Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood.
9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed.
No objectives, killed, gold is even.
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Holy shit Ezreal is really far ahead gold wise.
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Okay, overpow's ziggs build is weird, going spectral wraith first item. Jungle ziggs incoming? Or looking to steal dragons + baron with ulti?
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Spirit of wraith ziggs already making the plays
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SPECTRAL WRAITH GOT WRAITH. WAS WORTH BUY.
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On February 07 2014 04:52 loSleb wrote:
Holy shit Ezreal is really far ahead gold wise.
400g is so far ahead?
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cutlass early from trist yey! not sure if he will upgrade it to botrk instantly, at least I dont do it :D
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I think it's pretty big when he can finish a big item and trist can't.
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Incredible stalling from xaxus lol. Why did kerp go top though.
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Hmm, Ziggs damage on Baron will be interesting with the PvE build. Makes steals even easier O_O
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God, that's so fucking obvious, if you send 3 people top, they're gunna grab dragon. That's so apparent in high elo solo queue, same shit gunna happen in competitive play >.>
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On February 07 2014 04:54 loSleb wrote:
I think it's pretty big when he can finish a big item and trist can't.
Trist has her Zerker's greaves and cutlass, Ez hasn't got any boots the actual difference isn't that big
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thx guys, internet blocking at work sucks
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Roccat still up in gold ha.
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On February 07 2014 04:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance {M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh. First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes. Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood. 9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed. No objectives, killed, gold is even.
{M} are focusing huge on Renekton, ganking him with help of Elise and Gragas, getting kill for Shyvana finally.
Guess, after it Xaxus typed "#spacecreated" or "worth", while Roccat got first dragon.
Spirit of Spectral Wraith for Overpow's Ziggs, 0 towers taken at 15th minute, gold is even still, 300 gold for Roccat.
Suddenly, Pantheon ganks bot, Lulu is down. Huge Elise and Gragas rotation after it, amazing ult from Kerp, double kill for him.
Bottom tower for {M} went down though, gold is still 300 for Roccat.
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he has 2 points in w
I like him! I feel like im the only one who still does that!
*Tristana that is
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On February 07 2014 04:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
Roccat still up in gold ha.
Rito pls nerf wraith ziggs
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If Roccat didnt run they probably could have killed Elise and/or Trist before Gragas would get there.
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KERP THE FUCKING GOD
nvm dat kerp...
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Kerp, and Aranae ganks top with Kevin, to kill Xaxus in toplane, Roccat respond by getting Dragon.
jankos goes bot, ganks picks up kill on jree (lulu). Kerp counterganks, grabs double kill.
Mil gets bot tower of Roc, gold is even at 16 min mark
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I dont agree with Creaton anymore He gets even more AS after botrk he needs some dmg with IE and than LW or maaybe the zeal
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Froggen is probably getting moist watching Overpow's Zigg's build, ALL THAT JUNGLE FARM.
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Throwllenium.
I don't think that works too well but damn.
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And there's the inevitable Aranae goes way too deep play.
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SISSY SPIDER CANNOT BEAT THE MANTHEON
OVERPOW IS A GOD
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On February 07 2014 04:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance {M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh. First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes. Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood. 9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed. No objectives, killed, gold is even. {M} are focusing huge on Renekton, ganking him with help of Elise and Gragas, getting kill for Shyvana finally. Guess, after it Xaxus typed "#spacecreated" or "worth", while Roccat got first dragon. Spirit of Spectral Wraith for Overpow's Ziggs, 0 towers taken at 15th minute, gold is even still, 300 gold for Roccat. Suddenly, Pantheon ganks bot, Lulu is down. Huge Elise and Gragas rotation after it, amazing ult from Kerp, double kill for him. Bottom tower for {M} went down though, gold is still 300 for Roccat.
Game is still pretty much even.
Ziggs has endless sustain from jungle because of SoSW.
Roccat rotates as five into their red buff, where Elise and Shyvana were collapsing on Pantheon.
Pantheon escapes, Elise and Shyvana went down.
Polish powerhouse collapsed onto Gragas after it, Kerp went down as well.
4-4, 1-1 in towers, 0-1 in dragons, 0-0 in Baron Nashors, 2k for Roccat, second dragon is alive.
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lol, fucking overpow ulti wiffed so hard.
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That was bizarre, they didn't Mantheon ult the dragon, the Ziggs ult missed the dragon, and the Ez ult hit one person.
I love Overpow though, he's creative and it's fun to watch
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shiv.. ohoh! hes delaying his dmg by quite a lot
he will need ie/lw before going def prolly
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On February 07 2014 05:02 Ente wrote:
shiv.. ohoh! hes delaying his dmg by quite a lot
he will need ie/lw before going def prolly
BotRK was to survive laning phase, Shiv is for splitpush. We'll probably see a lot of him splitting side lanes.
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On February 07 2014 05:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 04:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance {M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh. First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes. Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood. 9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed. No objectives, killed, gold is even. {M} are focusing huge on Renekton, ganking him with help of Elise and Gragas, getting kill for Shyvana finally. Guess, after it Xaxus typed "#spacecreated" or "worth", while Roccat got first dragon. Spirit of Spectral Wraith for Overpow's Ziggs, 0 towers taken at 15th minute, gold is even still, 300 gold for Roccat. Suddenly, Pantheon ganks bot, Lulu is down. Huge Elise and Gragas rotation after it, amazing ult from Kerp, double kill for him. Bottom tower for {M} went down though, gold is still 300 for Roccat. Game is still pretty much even. Ziggs has endless sustain from jungle because of SoSW. Roccat rotates as five into their red buff, where Elise and Shyvana were collapsing on Pantheon. Pantheon escapes, Elise and Shyvana went down. Polish powerhouse collapsed onto Gragas after it, Kerp went down as well. 4-4, 1-1 in towers, 0-1 in dragons, 0-0 in Baron Nashors, 2k for Roccat, second dragon is alive.
Huge 5v5 on dragon, Elise took it down for {M}.
Creaton's Tristana manmoded huge with deep jumps and got Vander's Thresh and Jankos's Pantheon went down to Kev1n's Shyvana, Creaton escaped, Jree's Lulu died though.
After it, Overpow grabbed kill on Kerp with ultimate.
6-6 in kills, 1-1 dragons, 2-2 towers, 0-0 Baron Nashors, 1k gold for Roccat.
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On February 07 2014 05:03 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:02 Ente wrote:
shiv.. ohoh! hes delaying his dmg by quite a lot
he will need ie/lw before going def prolly BotRK was to survive laning phase, Shiv is for splitpush. We'll probably see a lot of him splitting side lanes.
she wont do shit vs renekton though and trist isnt great for splitpush
She didnt need botrk for lane cutlass was perfectly fine no need to upgrade it
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damn looks like a great game, again thx a lot for the LR
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On February 07 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
this vayne/kog build on tristana looks.... weird
difference is vayne/kog do it to deal damage, Trist doing it to splitpush, look at the botlane. She was just there for like half a second, cleared out that wave, then grouped again. It's a splitpush build.
Trist still splitting botlane, like I said this is a splitpush build.
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Oh my god that Aranae throw :O
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did they just...
Who goes for baron after one kill at 25:00?
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On February 07 2014 05:05 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
this vayne/kog build on tristana looks.... weird difference is vayne/kog do it to deal damage, Trist doing it to splitpush, look at the botlane. She was just there for like half a second, cleared out that wave, then grouped again. It's a splitpush build.
lets hope he can farm up the lw/ie to be able to deal with renekton I dont think he can afford to go for bv
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On February 07 2014 05:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance {M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh. First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes. Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood. 9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed. No objectives, killed, gold is even. {M} are focusing huge on Renekton, ganking him with help of Elise and Gragas, getting kill for Shyvana finally. Guess, after it Xaxus typed "#spacecreated" or "worth", while Roccat got first dragon. Spirit of Spectral Wraith for Overpow's Ziggs, 0 towers taken at 15th minute, gold is even still, 300 gold for Roccat. Suddenly, Pantheon ganks bot, Lulu is down. Huge Elise and Gragas rotation after it, amazing ult from Kerp, double kill for him. Bottom tower for {M} went down though, gold is still 300 for Roccat. Game is still pretty much even. Ziggs has endless sustain from jungle because of SoSW. Roccat rotates as five into their red buff, where Elise and Shyvana were collapsing on Pantheon. Pantheon escapes, Elise and Shyvana went down. Polish powerhouse collapsed onto Gragas after it, Kerp went down as well. 4-4, 1-1 in towers, 0-1 in dragons, 0-0 in Baron Nashors, 2k for Roccat, second dragon is alive. Huge 5v5 on dragon, Elise took it down for {M}. Creaton's Tristana manmoded huge with deep jumps and got Vander's Thresh and Jankos's Pantheon went down to Kev1n's Shyvana, Creaton escaped, Jree's Lulu died though. After it, Overpow grabbed kill on Kerp with ultimate. 6-6 in kills, 1-1 dragons, 2-2 towers, 0-0 Baron Nashors, 1k gold for Roccat.
Araneae's Elise got caught near Baron Nashor, got killed, Roccat are collapsing on Baron Nashor.
Shyvana, Gragas and Lulu tried to interrupt, Shyvana and Gragas died, Celaver's Ezreal died, Lulu escaped.
Baron Nashor went to Roccat, Creaton was splitpushing bottom until Overpow appeared.
7-9 in kills, 26th minute, 3k for Roccat, 4-3 towers for {M}, 1-1 dragons, 0-1 Baron Nashors.
Oh, already 1-2 dragons after Roccat took it for free.
4k advantage for Poles.
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On February 07 2014 05:06 Ente wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:05 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
this vayne/kog build on tristana looks.... weird difference is vayne/kog do it to deal damage, Trist doing it to splitpush, look at the botlane. She was just there for like half a second, cleared out that wave, then grouped again. It's a splitpush build. lets hope he can farm up the lw/ie to be able to deal with renekton I dont think he can afford to go for bv
I agree, he shouldn't of built past cutlass if he's doing this splitpush strategy, but I'm just explaining why he's going for this weird build. It's not so terrible, but just looks like Mil just trying to splitpush this game into late game, and scale from there.
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On February 07 2014 05:08 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:06 Ente wrote:On February 07 2014 05:05 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 05:03 RouaF wrote:
this vayne/kog build on tristana looks.... weird difference is vayne/kog do it to deal damage, Trist doing it to splitpush, look at the botlane. She was just there for like half a second, cleared out that wave, then grouped again. It's a splitpush build. lets hope he can farm up the lw/ie to be able to deal with renekton I dont think he can afford to go for bv I agree, he shouldn't of built past cutlass if he's doing this splitpush strategy, but I'm just explaining why he's going for this weird build. It's not so terrible, but just looks like Mil just trying to splitpush this game into late game, and scale from there.
ye still dont like the shiv botrk/cutlass is great and my go to trist build due to the kill potential, not a fan of shiv though. It makes sense for splitting
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On February 07 2014 05:07 loSleb wrote:
Did the just show the future in the backdoor cam?
yep, because the main screen is usually delayed compared to the actual live game, they said in an AMA that they catchup later during replays so that the players aren't jumping out of their chair while the nexus isn't dead on the main screen.
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BEST FLASH COCOON. FUCKING ARANAE. ROFL
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On February 07 2014 05:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance {M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh. First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes. Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood. 9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed. No objectives, killed, gold is even. {M} are focusing huge on Renekton, ganking him with help of Elise and Gragas, getting kill for Shyvana finally. Guess, after it Xaxus typed "#spacecreated" or "worth", while Roccat got first dragon. Spirit of Spectral Wraith for Overpow's Ziggs, 0 towers taken at 15th minute, gold is even still, 300 gold for Roccat. Suddenly, Pantheon ganks bot, Lulu is down. Huge Elise and Gragas rotation after it, amazing ult from Kerp, double kill for him. Bottom tower for {M} went down though, gold is still 300 for Roccat. Game is still pretty much even. Ziggs has endless sustain from jungle because of SoSW. Roccat rotates as five into their red buff, where Elise and Shyvana were collapsing on Pantheon. Pantheon escapes, Elise and Shyvana went down. Polish powerhouse collapsed onto Gragas after it, Kerp went down as well. 4-4, 1-1 in towers, 0-1 in dragons, 0-0 in Baron Nashors, 2k for Roccat, second dragon is alive. Huge 5v5 on dragon, Elise took it down for {M}. Creaton's Tristana manmoded huge with deep jumps and got Vander's Thresh and Jankos's Pantheon went down to Kev1n's Shyvana, Creaton escaped, Jree's Lulu died though. After it, Overpow grabbed kill on Kerp with ultimate. 6-6 in kills, 1-1 dragons, 2-2 towers, 0-0 Baron Nashors, 1k gold for Roccat. Araneae's Elise got caught near Baron Nashor, got killed, Roccat are collapsing on Baron Nashor. Shyvana, Gragas and Lulu tried to interrupt, Shyvana and Gragas died, Celaver's Ezreal died, Lulu escaped. Baron Nashor went to Roccat, Creaton was splitpushing bottom until Overpow appeared. 7-9 in kills, 26th minute, 3k for Roccat, 4-3 towers for {M}, 1-1 dragons, 0-1 Baron Nashors. Oh, already 1-2 dragons after Roccat took it for free. 4k advantage for Poles.
Roccat rotate into {M} jungle, steal blue.
Siege near {M} t2 starts.
Gragas and Tristana are clearing almost instantly, though.
Jankos on Pantheon went to splitpush mid, grand skyfall is available for him.
*lol, just realised that Overpow has ghost as second summoner's spell*
Elise missed flash-cocoon while i was typing.
{M} finally forced out of their t2, Roccat grab it to make their advantage same to 5,5k gold.
30 minutes are behind.
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Does overpow ever get bored of being so good.
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On February 07 2014 05:15 Fusilero wrote:
Does overpow ever get bored of being so good.
I dunno, does Faker get bored of being a god?
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On February 07 2014 05:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance {M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh. First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes. Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood. 9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed. No objectives, killed, gold is even. {M} are focusing huge on Renekton, ganking him with help of Elise and Gragas, getting kill for Shyvana finally. Guess, after it Xaxus typed "#spacecreated" or "worth", while Roccat got first dragon. Spirit of Spectral Wraith for Overpow's Ziggs, 0 towers taken at 15th minute, gold is even still, 300 gold for Roccat. Suddenly, Pantheon ganks bot, Lulu is down. Huge Elise and Gragas rotation after it, amazing ult from Kerp, double kill for him. Bottom tower for {M} went down though, gold is still 300 for Roccat. Game is still pretty much even. Ziggs has endless sustain from jungle because of SoSW. Roccat rotates as five into their red buff, where Elise and Shyvana were collapsing on Pantheon. Pantheon escapes, Elise and Shyvana went down. Polish powerhouse collapsed onto Gragas after it, Kerp went down as well. 4-4, 1-1 in towers, 0-1 in dragons, 0-0 in Baron Nashors, 2k for Roccat, second dragon is alive. Huge 5v5 on dragon, Elise took it down for {M}. Creaton's Tristana manmoded huge with deep jumps and got Vander's Thresh and Jankos's Pantheon went down to Kev1n's Shyvana, Creaton escaped, Jree's Lulu died though. After it, Overpow grabbed kill on Kerp with ultimate. 6-6 in kills, 1-1 dragons, 2-2 towers, 0-0 Baron Nashors, 1k gold for Roccat. Araneae's Elise got caught near Baron Nashor, got killed, Roccat are collapsing on Baron Nashor. Shyvana, Gragas and Lulu tried to interrupt, Shyvana and Gragas died, Celaver's Ezreal died, Lulu escaped. Baron Nashor went to Roccat, Creaton was splitpushing bottom until Overpow appeared. 7-9 in kills, 26th minute, 3k for Roccat, 4-3 towers for {M}, 1-1 dragons, 0-1 Baron Nashors. Oh, already 1-2 dragons after Roccat took it for free. 4k advantage for Poles. Roccat rotate into {M} jungle, steal blue. Siege near {M} t2 starts. Gragas and Tristana are clearing almost instantly, though. Jankos on Pantheon went to splitpush mid, grand skyfall is available for him. *lol, just realised that Overpow has ghost as second summoner's spell* Elise missed flash-cocoon while i was typing. {M} finally forced out of their t2, Roccat grab it to make their advantage same to 5,5k gold. 30 minutes are behind.
4th Dragon and 2nd Baron Nashor are almost alive.
Teams are collapsing in the middle.
Tactical advantage in on Roccat's side as they're closer to Baron Nashor's pit.
Huge fight occurs, Araneae almost instantly went down, Overpow chased Creaton and killed him, Kev1n died as well.
Noone went down from Roccat, free Baron Nashor for them almost.
10k advantage for Roccat, then Kerp tried to burst Celaver, he escapes with few hitpoints with help of lantern, Kerp went down to Overpow.
9k advantage after Elise snatched dragon though.
35th minute is here and Roccat are pushing t2, taking it for free, 10k again and they're sieging t3.
Taking it as well, retreating.
11k gold for Poles, 2-2 in dragons, 2-0 Baron Nashors, 6-4 in towers, 13-7 in kills.
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so commentators cant even see each other when they talk hmm
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and Tristanas itembuild hurts him.. he couldnt go for a def item because of his shiv ziggs ult just destroys him
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On February 07 2014 05:17 Ente wrote:
and Tristanas itembuild hurts him.. he couldnt go for a def item because of his shiv ziggs ult just destroys him
hindsight is 20/20.
Roccat dumpstering on Mil just makes the build look worse than it is.
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On February 07 2014 05:18 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:17 Ente wrote:
and Tristanas itembuild hurts him.. he couldnt go for a def item because of his shiv ziggs ult just destroys him hindsight is 20/20. Roccat dumpstering on Mil just makes the build look worst than it is.
well.. I said that at the start it was very very likely to happen but imo thresh destroys them mainly cant let a good thresh get that champion
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On February 07 2014 05:18 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:17 Ente wrote:
and Tristanas itembuild hurts him.. he couldnt go for a def item because of his shiv ziggs ult just destroys him hindsight is 20/20. Roccat dumpstering on Mil just makes the build look worse than it is.
To be fair, Ente was criticizing the build before Roccat got a lead in the game.
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On February 07 2014 05:17 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance {M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh. First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes. Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood. 9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed. No objectives, killed, gold is even. {M} are focusing huge on Renekton, ganking him with help of Elise and Gragas, getting kill for Shyvana finally. Guess, after it Xaxus typed "#spacecreated" or "worth", while Roccat got first dragon. Spirit of Spectral Wraith for Overpow's Ziggs, 0 towers taken at 15th minute, gold is even still, 300 gold for Roccat. Suddenly, Pantheon ganks bot, Lulu is down. Huge Elise and Gragas rotation after it, amazing ult from Kerp, double kill for him. Bottom tower for {M} went down though, gold is still 300 for Roccat. Game is still pretty much even. Ziggs has endless sustain from jungle because of SoSW. Roccat rotates as five into their red buff, where Elise and Shyvana were collapsing on Pantheon. Pantheon escapes, Elise and Shyvana went down. Polish powerhouse collapsed onto Gragas after it, Kerp went down as well. 4-4, 1-1 in towers, 0-1 in dragons, 0-0 in Baron Nashors, 2k for Roccat, second dragon is alive. Huge 5v5 on dragon, Elise took it down for {M}. Creaton's Tristana manmoded huge with deep jumps and got Vander's Thresh and Jankos's Pantheon went down to Kev1n's Shyvana, Creaton escaped, Jree's Lulu died though. After it, Overpow grabbed kill on Kerp with ultimate. 6-6 in kills, 1-1 dragons, 2-2 towers, 0-0 Baron Nashors, 1k gold for Roccat. Araneae's Elise got caught near Baron Nashor, got killed, Roccat are collapsing on Baron Nashor. Shyvana, Gragas and Lulu tried to interrupt, Shyvana and Gragas died, Celaver's Ezreal died, Lulu escaped. Baron Nashor went to Roccat, Creaton was splitpushing bottom until Overpow appeared. 7-9 in kills, 26th minute, 3k for Roccat, 4-3 towers for {M}, 1-1 dragons, 0-1 Baron Nashors. Oh, already 1-2 dragons after Roccat took it for free. 4k advantage for Poles. Roccat rotate into {M} jungle, steal blue. Siege near {M} t2 starts. Gragas and Tristana are clearing almost instantly, though. Jankos on Pantheon went to splitpush mid, grand skyfall is available for him. *lol, just realised that Overpow has ghost as second summoner's spell* Elise missed flash-cocoon while i was typing. {M} finally forced out of their t2, Roccat grab it to make their advantage same to 5,5k gold. 30 minutes are behind. 4th Dragon and 2nd Baron Nashor are almost alive. Teams are collapsing in the middle. Tactical advantage in on Roccat's side as they're closer to Baron Nashor's pit. Huge fight occurs, Araneae almost instantly went down, Overpow chased Creaton and killed him, Kev1n died as well. Noone went down from Roccat, free Baron Nashor for them almost. 10k advantage for Roccat, then Kerp tried to burst Celaver, he escapes with few hitpoints with help of lantern, Kerp went down to Overpow. 9k advantage after Elise snatched dragon though. 35th minute is here and Roccat are pushing t2, taking it for free, 10k again and they're sieging t3. Taking it as well, retreating. 11k gold for Poles, 2-2 in dragons, 2-0 Baron Nashors, 6-4 in towers, 13-7 in kills.
After few minutes of farming and backing, Poles came back to exposed {M}'s inhibitor.
Got it easily, almost killed Elise.
Sieging top t3, {M} are trying to hold with newly picked IE for Creaton. Even though Tristana is a huge liablity without defensive items Overpow is smashing her completely.
Roccat engages under t3, Vander almost went down, noone died, Roccat retreat.
40th minute, 12,5k gold advantage for Roccat.
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Roccat are gonna lose, no wraith ziggs anymore </3
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but they actually still CAN win tristana reached godstatus almost aslong as she can stay safe from ziggs(as hard as it is)
Once she finishes Banshees(might also be ga) they might have a shot
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Is that challenger game worth watching? its semifinal.
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On February 07 2014 05:19 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:18 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 05:17 Ente wrote:
and Tristanas itembuild hurts him.. he couldnt go for a def item because of his shiv ziggs ult just destroys him hindsight is 20/20. Roccat dumpstering on Mil just makes the build look worse than it is. To be fair, Ente was criticizing the build before Roccat got a lead in the game.
For the wrong reason, He was complaining the build does no damage, but that's like saying fish suck cuz they can't run.
The build is doing what the build was intended, which was get him to hypercarry status, and now it has.
I'll be the first to criticize shitty ADC builds from EU players, as most people here know, but this build actually makes sense.
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Araneae homeguards into a hook, hue.
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at least aranea shuts up now
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fucking jree gets caught, dies.
At the point, Creaton might as well go full yolo queue, and just build full damage instead of getting defensive item. Getting a PD would be so strong at this point. (actually BT might be a better pick up)
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On February 07 2014 05:23 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:19 Swords wrote:On February 07 2014 05:18 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 05:17 Ente wrote:
and Tristanas itembuild hurts him.. he couldnt go for a def item because of his shiv ziggs ult just destroys him hindsight is 20/20. Roccat dumpstering on Mil just makes the build look worse than it is. To be fair, Ente was criticizing the build before Roccat got a lead in the game. For the wrong reason, He was complaining the build does no damage, but that's like saying fish suck cuz they can't run. The build is doing what the build was intended, which was get him to hypercarry status, and now it has. I'll be the first to criticize shitty ADC builds from EU players, as most people here know, but this build actually makes sense.
well.. I disagree trist reaches hardcarry status after finishing IE/LW and an AS item that can either be blade or shiv(I personally prefer only zeal) but getting both botrk AND shiv is my main issue, I would disagree with only shiv but I can understand it the 1800 extra gold for blade is a problem
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On February 07 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
Is that challenger game worth watching? its semifinal.
Ofc Amin and Zoro always fun to watch.
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Vander - the Polish Madlife.
Aranae feeding again zzzz
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Did the stream just explode for anyone else?
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Millenium are starting too look like in S3, with only Creaton playing well (until he broke his hand).
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On February 07 2014 05:21 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:17 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance {M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh. First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes. Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood. 9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed. No objectives, killed, gold is even. {M} are focusing huge on Renekton, ganking him with help of Elise and Gragas, getting kill for Shyvana finally. Guess, after it Xaxus typed "#spacecreated" or "worth", while Roccat got first dragon. Spirit of Spectral Wraith for Overpow's Ziggs, 0 towers taken at 15th minute, gold is even still, 300 gold for Roccat. Suddenly, Pantheon ganks bot, Lulu is down. Huge Elise and Gragas rotation after it, amazing ult from Kerp, double kill for him. Bottom tower for {M} went down though, gold is still 300 for Roccat. Game is still pretty much even. Ziggs has endless sustain from jungle because of SoSW. Roccat rotates as five into their red buff, where Elise and Shyvana were collapsing on Pantheon. Pantheon escapes, Elise and Shyvana went down. Polish powerhouse collapsed onto Gragas after it, Kerp went down as well. 4-4, 1-1 in towers, 0-1 in dragons, 0-0 in Baron Nashors, 2k for Roccat, second dragon is alive. Huge 5v5 on dragon, Elise took it down for {M}. Creaton's Tristana manmoded huge with deep jumps and got Vander's Thresh and Jankos's Pantheon went down to Kev1n's Shyvana, Creaton escaped, Jree's Lulu died though. After it, Overpow grabbed kill on Kerp with ultimate. 6-6 in kills, 1-1 dragons, 2-2 towers, 0-0 Baron Nashors, 1k gold for Roccat. Araneae's Elise got caught near Baron Nashor, got killed, Roccat are collapsing on Baron Nashor. Shyvana, Gragas and Lulu tried to interrupt, Shyvana and Gragas died, Celaver's Ezreal died, Lulu escaped. Baron Nashor went to Roccat, Creaton was splitpushing bottom until Overpow appeared. 7-9 in kills, 26th minute, 3k for Roccat, 4-3 towers for {M}, 1-1 dragons, 0-1 Baron Nashors. Oh, already 1-2 dragons after Roccat took it for free. 4k advantage for Poles. Roccat rotate into {M} jungle, steal blue. Siege near {M} t2 starts. Gragas and Tristana are clearing almost instantly, though. Jankos on Pantheon went to splitpush mid, grand skyfall is available for him. *lol, just realised that Overpow has ghost as second summoner's spell* Elise missed flash-cocoon while i was typing. {M} finally forced out of their t2, Roccat grab it to make their advantage same to 5,5k gold. 30 minutes are behind. 4th Dragon and 2nd Baron Nashor are almost alive. Teams are collapsing in the middle. Tactical advantage in on Roccat's side as they're closer to Baron Nashor's pit. Huge fight occurs, Araneae almost instantly went down, Overpow chased Creaton and killed him, Kev1n died as well. Noone went down from Roccat, free Baron Nashor for them almost. 10k advantage for Roccat, then Kerp tried to burst Celaver, he escapes with few hitpoints with help of lantern, Kerp went down to Overpow. 9k advantage after Elise snatched dragon though. 35th minute is here and Roccat are pushing t2, taking it for free, 10k again and they're sieging t3. Taking it as well, retreating. 11k gold for Poles, 2-2 in dragons, 2-0 Baron Nashors, 6-4 in towers, 13-7 in kills. After few minutes of farming and backing, Poles came back to exposed {M}'s inhibitor. Got it easily, almost killed Elise. Sieging top t3, {M} are trying to hold with newly picked IE for Creaton. Even though Tristana is a huge liablity without defensive items Overpow is smashing her completely. Roccat engages under t3, Vander almost went down, noone died, Roccat retreat. 40th minute, 12,5k gold advantage for Roccat.
Overpow's Ziggs finally got rid of Spirit of Spectral Wraith, got Rylai's Crystal Scepter and he's full build now with almost 500 creep kills.
Free Baron Nashor for Roccat, 3-0 here.
13,5k gold advantage, Poles are sieging top t3 again.
Middle inhibitor for {M} is respawned though. Nevermind, died instantly almost.
Huge fight occurs, Araneae almost went down, Jree's Lulu died, 1v0 for Poles.
14k gold advantage, siege continues.
Flash hook from Vander, Kerp is dead, Jankos died as well from Tristana, second inhibitor went down, Araneae, well, dived and died.
Creaton is trying to do his best, dunno if it can help.
Roccat retreat again with 2 dead inhibitors for {M}, 15k advantage for Poles and suddenly stream died :D
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On February 07 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
fucking jree gets caught, dies.
At the point, Creaton might as well go full yolo queue, and just build full damage instead of getting defensive item. Getting a PD would be so strong at this point. (actually BT might be a better pick up)
you are AS capped with botrk/PD/q and as boots so getting 2 as items is very overkill, So yes BT is better but dont think he can afford it vs a ziggs he might have to though
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On February 07 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
Is that challenger game worth watching? its semifinal.
Imo almost all of those games were worth watching. Often better than the LCS games.
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On February 07 2014 05:25 Ente wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:23 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 05:19 Swords wrote:On February 07 2014 05:18 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 05:17 Ente wrote:
and Tristanas itembuild hurts him.. he couldnt go for a def item because of his shiv ziggs ult just destroys him hindsight is 20/20. Roccat dumpstering on Mil just makes the build look worse than it is. To be fair, Ente was criticizing the build before Roccat got a lead in the game. For the wrong reason, He was complaining the build does no damage, but that's like saying fish suck cuz they can't run. The build is doing what the build was intended, which was get him to hypercarry status, and now it has. I'll be the first to criticize shitty ADC builds from EU players, as most people here know, but this build actually makes sense. well.. I disagree trist reaches hardcarry status after finishing IE/LW and an AS item that can either be blade or shiv(I personally prefer only zeal) but getting both botrk AND shiv is my main issue, I would disagree with only shiv but I can understand it the 1800 extra gold for blade is a problem
blade and shiv are fine in part of a 4 item offensive build, it's just the 2 item timing is a bit underwhelming, but Mil's plan isn't to fight at Trist's 2 item timing.
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On February 07 2014 05:26 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
Is that challenger game worth watching? its semifinal. Imo almost all of those games were worth watching. Often better than the LCS games.
TTD will probably get curb stomped, C9EU vs NiP should be good in the finals though
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Riot just cancelled lcs in europe and na. :D
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There's a new Thorin article, guess they just wanted to let us read it instead of waiting for millenium to surrender.
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On February 07 2014 05:26 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:25 Ente wrote:On February 07 2014 05:23 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 05:19 Swords wrote:On February 07 2014 05:18 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 05:17 Ente wrote:
and Tristanas itembuild hurts him.. he couldnt go for a def item because of his shiv ziggs ult just destroys him hindsight is 20/20. Roccat dumpstering on Mil just makes the build look worse than it is. To be fair, Ente was criticizing the build before Roccat got a lead in the game. For the wrong reason, He was complaining the build does no damage, but that's like saying fish suck cuz they can't run. The build is doing what the build was intended, which was get him to hypercarry status, and now it has. I'll be the first to criticize shitty ADC builds from EU players, as most people here know, but this build actually makes sense. well.. I disagree trist reaches hardcarry status after finishing IE/LW and an AS item that can either be blade or shiv(I personally prefer only zeal) but getting both botrk AND shiv is my main issue, I would disagree with only shiv but I can understand it the 1800 extra gold for blade is a problem blade and shiv are fine in part of a 4 item offensive build, it's just the 2 item timing is a bit underwhelming, but Mil's plan isn't to fight at Trist's 2 item timing.
correct but the problem was the extremly late defensive item.
But this discussion isnt needed anymore anyway because it didnt really hurt them too much and the time is over anyway trist has what she wants (besides finish bv, switch out shiv for PD and get zephyr but those arent as big)
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On February 07 2014 05:27 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:26 Redox wrote:On February 07 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
Is that challenger game worth watching? its semifinal. Imo almost all of those games were worth watching. Often better than the LCS games. TTD will probably get curb stomped, C9EU vs NiP should be good in the finals though
Stomps can also be nice to watch from time to time. 
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On February 07 2014 05:26 Ente wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
fucking jree gets caught, dies.
At the point, Creaton might as well go full yolo queue, and just build full damage instead of getting defensive item. Getting a PD would be so strong at this point. (actually BT might be a better pick up) you are AS capped with botrk/PD/q and as boots so getting 2 as items is very overkill, So yes BT is better but dont think he can afford it vs a ziggs he might have to though
I think the consistent crit with PD might do more damage than getting BT though; not sure, would have to math it out.
On February 07 2014 05:28 Ente wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:26 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 05:25 Ente wrote:On February 07 2014 05:23 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 05:19 Swords wrote:On February 07 2014 05:18 wei2coolman wrote:On February 07 2014 05:17 Ente wrote:
and Tristanas itembuild hurts him.. he couldnt go for a def item because of his shiv ziggs ult just destroys him hindsight is 20/20. Roccat dumpstering on Mil just makes the build look worse than it is. To be fair, Ente was criticizing the build before Roccat got a lead in the game. For the wrong reason, He was complaining the build does no damage, but that's like saying fish suck cuz they can't run. The build is doing what the build was intended, which was get him to hypercarry status, and now it has. I'll be the first to criticize shitty ADC builds from EU players, as most people here know, but this build actually makes sense. well.. I disagree trist reaches hardcarry status after finishing IE/LW and an AS item that can either be blade or shiv(I personally prefer only zeal) but getting both botrk AND shiv is my main issue, I would disagree with only shiv but I can understand it the 1800 extra gold for blade is a problem blade and shiv are fine in part of a 4 item offensive build, it's just the 2 item timing is a bit underwhelming, but Mil's plan isn't to fight at Trist's 2 item timing. correct but the problem was the extremly late defensive item. But this discussion isnt needed anymore anyway because it didnt really hurt them too much and the time is over anyway trist has what she wants (besides finish bv, switch out shiv for PD and get zephyr but those arent as big)
Defensive item not an issue right now, Creaton isn't dying right away or anything. He's doing the damage he needs to do in teamfights. No one picks trist to get 3 offensive items, and then pick up defensive item as a 4th item.
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On February 07 2014 05:28 Alaric wrote:
Is the stream dead?
Every stream died it seems.
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On February 07 2014 05:28 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:26 Ente wrote:On February 07 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
fucking jree gets caught, dies.
At the point, Creaton might as well go full yolo queue, and just build full damage instead of getting defensive item. Getting a PD would be so strong at this point. (actually BT might be a better pick up) you are AS capped with botrk/PD/q and as boots so getting 2 as items is very overkill, So yes BT is better but dont think he can afford it vs a ziggs he might have to though I think the consistent crit with PD might do more damage than getting BT though; not sure, would have to math it out.
thats actually possible, would argue that getting the bt would be still better because if you have no MR/defensive item you will need more lifesteal to maybe survive a fight
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Twitch chat says its the nsa.
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stream comes back up. Mil is the winner. that would be so funny.
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Froggen drank too much alcohol after the win and decided to go back to his old ways.
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Overpow trying so hard to beat XiaoWeiXiao's farm record.
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Vancouver14381 Posts
Poll: Recommend Millenium vs ROCCAT Spring Week 4?Yes (1) 17% No (2) 33% If you have time (3) 50% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Millenium vs ROCCAT Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Time for some Gambit gaming.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 07 2014 05:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:21 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:17 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:48 Chemiczny84 wrote:can someone plz tell me picks and/or do a little bit of LR? I'm stuck in work for one more hour please please thx in advance {M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh. First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes. Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood. 9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed. No objectives, killed, gold is even. {M} are focusing huge on Renekton, ganking him with help of Elise and Gragas, getting kill for Shyvana finally. Guess, after it Xaxus typed "#spacecreated" or "worth", while Roccat got first dragon. Spirit of Spectral Wraith for Overpow's Ziggs, 0 towers taken at 15th minute, gold is even still, 300 gold for Roccat. Suddenly, Pantheon ganks bot, Lulu is down. Huge Elise and Gragas rotation after it, amazing ult from Kerp, double kill for him. Bottom tower for {M} went down though, gold is still 300 for Roccat. Game is still pretty much even. Ziggs has endless sustain from jungle because of SoSW. Roccat rotates as five into their red buff, where Elise and Shyvana were collapsing on Pantheon. Pantheon escapes, Elise and Shyvana went down. Polish powerhouse collapsed onto Gragas after it, Kerp went down as well. 4-4, 1-1 in towers, 0-1 in dragons, 0-0 in Baron Nashors, 2k for Roccat, second dragon is alive. Huge 5v5 on dragon, Elise took it down for {M}. Creaton's Tristana manmoded huge with deep jumps and got Vander's Thresh and Jankos's Pantheon went down to Kev1n's Shyvana, Creaton escaped, Jree's Lulu died though. After it, Overpow grabbed kill on Kerp with ultimate. 6-6 in kills, 1-1 dragons, 2-2 towers, 0-0 Baron Nashors, 1k gold for Roccat. Araneae's Elise got caught near Baron Nashor, got killed, Roccat are collapsing on Baron Nashor. Shyvana, Gragas and Lulu tried to interrupt, Shyvana and Gragas died, Celaver's Ezreal died, Lulu escaped. Baron Nashor went to Roccat, Creaton was splitpushing bottom until Overpow appeared. 7-9 in kills, 26th minute, 3k for Roccat, 4-3 towers for {M}, 1-1 dragons, 0-1 Baron Nashors. Oh, already 1-2 dragons after Roccat took it for free. 4k advantage for Poles. Roccat rotate into {M} jungle, steal blue. Siege near {M} t2 starts. Gragas and Tristana are clearing almost instantly, though. Jankos on Pantheon went to splitpush mid, grand skyfall is available for him. *lol, just realised that Overpow has ghost as second summoner's spell* Elise missed flash-cocoon while i was typing. {M} finally forced out of their t2, Roccat grab it to make their advantage same to 5,5k gold. 30 minutes are behind. 4th Dragon and 2nd Baron Nashor are almost alive. Teams are collapsing in the middle. Tactical advantage in on Roccat's side as they're closer to Baron Nashor's pit. Huge fight occurs, Araneae almost instantly went down, Overpow chased Creaton and killed him, Kev1n died as well. Noone went down from Roccat, free Baron Nashor for them almost. 10k advantage for Roccat, then Kerp tried to burst Celaver, he escapes with few hitpoints with help of lantern, Kerp went down to Overpow. 9k advantage after Elise snatched dragon though. 35th minute is here and Roccat are pushing t2, taking it for free, 10k again and they're sieging t3. Taking it as well, retreating. 11k gold for Poles, 2-2 in dragons, 2-0 Baron Nashors, 6-4 in towers, 13-7 in kills. After few minutes of farming and backing, Poles came back to exposed {M}'s inhibitor. Got it easily, almost killed Elise. Sieging top t3, {M} are trying to hold with newly picked IE for Creaton. Even though Tristana is a huge liablity without defensive items Overpow is smashing her completely. Roccat engages under t3, Vander almost went down, noone died, Roccat retreat. 40th minute, 12,5k gold advantage for Roccat. Overpow's Ziggs finally got rid of Spirit of Spectral Wraith, got Rylai's Crystal Scepter and he's full build now with almost 500 creep kills. Free Baron Nashor for Roccat, 3-0 here. 13,5k gold advantage, Poles are sieging top t3 again. Middle inhibitor for {M} is respawned though. Nevermind, died instantly almost. Huge fight occurs, Araneae almost went down, Jree's Lulu died, 1v0 for Poles. 14k gold advantage, siege continues. Flash hook from Vander, Kerp is dead, Jankos died as well from Tristana, second inhibitor went down, Araneae, well, dived and died. Creaton is trying to do his best, dunno if it can help. Roccat retreat again with 2 dead inhibitors for {M}, 15k advantage for Poles and suddenly stream died :D
Finally Twitch is alive again, Quickshot is making his analysis.
OKAY, SO SEEMS LIKE ROCCAT WON.
Nevermind.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
£20 says aranae got caught and roccat won
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riot pulling a bw'esque buffer into gg
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Damn, azubu stream down, please don't fail me twitch.
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On February 07 2014 05:37 Swords wrote:
Twitch is back up.
And no sound :D
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Youtube still down aswell
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Imagine something like this would happen during world scoccer championsip finals.
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I'm half-joking, but is the Internet infrastructure that poor in EU? Seems like EU LCS/EUW always have so many issues with this stuff.
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On February 07 2014 05:44 Takkara wrote:
I'm half-joking, but is the Internet infrastructure that poor in EU? Seems like EU LCS/EUW always have so many issues with this stuff.
I never noticed that many problems in EU LCS? The EUW servers on the other hand...
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On February 07 2014 05:44 Takkara wrote:
I'm half-joking, but is the Internet infrastructure that poor in EU? Seems like EU LCS/EUW always have so many issues with this stuff.
'most' of the EU internet infrastructure is amazing. Stuff like this is rarely the fault of the internet backbone and almost always local.
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ok i bet 100 euros that roccat wins
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On February 07 2014 05:48 TitusVI wrote:
ok i bet 100 euros that roccat wins
Wow such a brave bet.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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On February 07 2014 05:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 05:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:21 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:17 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 05:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:57 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 07 2014 04:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
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{M} - Shyvana, Elise, Gragas, Tristana, Lulu
Roccat - Renekton, Pantheon, Ziggs, Ezreal, Thresh.
First few minutes were a pure slaughterhouse with bunch of towerdives and escapes.
Somewhere near 6 minute, Kerp towerdived t2 in mid and got Overpow in solo kill for first blood.
9-30 - Shyvana and Elise towerdiving Renekton, almost got him, Croc stays alive though with few hitpoints, almost got Elise killed.
No objectives, killed, gold is even. {M} are focusing huge on Renekton, ganking him with help of Elise and Gragas, getting kill for Shyvana finally. Guess, after it Xaxus typed "#spacecreated" or "worth", while Roccat got first dragon. Spirit of Spectral Wraith for Overpow's Ziggs, 0 towers taken at 15th minute, gold is even still, 300 gold for Roccat. Suddenly, Pantheon ganks bot, Lulu is down. Huge Elise and Gragas rotation after it, amazing ult from Kerp, double kill for him. Bottom tower for {M} went down though, gold is still 300 for Roccat. Game is still pretty much even. Ziggs has endless sustain from jungle because of SoSW. Roccat rotates as five into their red buff, where Elise and Shyvana were collapsing on Pantheon. Pantheon escapes, Elise and Shyvana went down. Polish powerhouse collapsed onto Gragas after it, Kerp went down as well. 4-4, 1-1 in towers, 0-1 in dragons, 0-0 in Baron Nashors, 2k for Roccat, second dragon is alive. Huge 5v5 on dragon, Elise took it down for {M}. Creaton's Tristana manmoded huge with deep jumps and got Vander's Thresh and Jankos's Pantheon went down to Kev1n's Shyvana, Creaton escaped, Jree's Lulu died though. After it, Overpow grabbed kill on Kerp with ultimate. 6-6 in kills, 1-1 dragons, 2-2 towers, 0-0 Baron Nashors, 1k gold for Roccat. Araneae's Elise got caught near Baron Nashor, got killed, Roccat are collapsing on Baron Nashor. Shyvana, Gragas and Lulu tried to interrupt, Shyvana and Gragas died, Celaver's Ezreal died, Lulu escaped. Baron Nashor went to Roccat, Creaton was splitpushing bottom until Overpow appeared. 7-9 in kills, 26th minute, 3k for Roccat, 4-3 towers for {M}, 1-1 dragons, 0-1 Baron Nashors. Oh, already 1-2 dragons after Roccat took it for free. 4k advantage for Poles. Roccat rotate into {M} jungle, steal blue. Siege near {M} t2 starts. Gragas and Tristana are clearing almost instantly, though. Jankos on Pantheon went to splitpush mid, grand skyfall is available for him. *lol, just realised that Overpow has ghost as second summoner's spell* Elise missed flash-cocoon while i was typing. {M} finally forced out of their t2, Roccat grab it to make their advantage same to 5,5k gold. 30 minutes are behind. 4th Dragon and 2nd Baron Nashor are almost alive. Teams are collapsing in the middle. Tactical advantage in on Roccat's side as they're closer to Baron Nashor's pit. Huge fight occurs, Araneae almost instantly went down, Overpow chased Creaton and killed him, Kev1n died as well. Noone went down from Roccat, free Baron Nashor for them almost. 10k advantage for Roccat, then Kerp tried to burst Celaver, he escapes with few hitpoints with help of lantern, Kerp went down to Overpow. 9k advantage after Elise snatched dragon though. 35th minute is here and Roccat are pushing t2, taking it for free, 10k again and they're sieging t3. Taking it as well, retreating. 11k gold for Poles, 2-2 in dragons, 2-0 Baron Nashors, 6-4 in towers, 13-7 in kills. After few minutes of farming and backing, Poles came back to exposed {M}'s inhibitor. Got it easily, almost killed Elise. Sieging top t3, {M} are trying to hold with newly picked IE for Creaton. Even though Tristana is a huge liablity without defensive items Overpow is smashing her completely. Roccat engages under t3, Vander almost went down, noone died, Roccat retreat. 40th minute, 12,5k gold advantage for Roccat. Overpow's Ziggs finally got rid of Spirit of Spectral Wraith, got Rylai's Crystal Scepter and he's full build now with almost 500 creep kills. Free Baron Nashor for Roccat, 3-0 here. 13,5k gold advantage, Poles are sieging top t3 again. Middle inhibitor for {M} is respawned though. Nevermind, died instantly almost. Huge fight occurs, Araneae almost went down, Jree's Lulu died, 1v0 for Poles. 14k gold advantage, siege continues. Flash hook from Vander, Kerp is dead, Jankos died as well from Tristana, second inhibitor went down, Araneae, well, dived and died. Creaton is trying to do his best, dunno if it can help. Roccat retreat again with 2 dead inhibitors for {M}, 15k advantage for Poles and suddenly stream died :D Finally Twitch is alive again, Quickshot is making his analysis. OKAY, SO SEEMS LIKE ROCCAT WON. Nevermind.
I think it might be a replay but still.
17k advantage for Polish powerhouse, 45th minute is here, Roccat are sieging bottom.
Inner turret falls, Creaton is trying to clean endless wave of minions.
Roccat are collapsing. Millenium retreats, Roccat gets inhibitor tower, inhibitor, middle inhibitor as well.
{M} are trying their best to hold, almost 18k gold is Poles's advantage.
Top inhibitor respawned, went down, {M} collapsed.
Noone except Creaton is dead, Roccat are pushing for the win.
GG, Poles are 6-2, Millenium are 2-7 and fall to the last place now.
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On February 07 2014 05:48 TitusVI wrote:better then nothing^^
Can't argue with that. Rito pls.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
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Ok stop this bullshit or i sell my teemo skins.
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On February 07 2014 05:42 TitusVI wrote:
Imagine something like this would happen during world scoccer championsip finals.
Remember Euro 2008 semi final? That one had worse blackouts
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Tonight's LCS is hardly enjoyable to say the least...
If it comes to ROC - MIL: targeting bans on Celaver and not on Vander.. rly?
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United States7639 Posts
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Of course twitch lagging as hell and azubu doesnt work, thanks rito
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On February 07 2014 06:02 AlterKot wrote:
Of course twitch lagging as hell and azubu doesnt work, thanks rito
that's not necessarily riot's fault...
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I imagine not restarting azubu stream is fault on their part.
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On February 07 2014 06:02 AlterKot wrote:
Of course twitch lagging as hell and azubu doesnt work, thanks rito
youtube stream exists as well, that's usually the most stable for me
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I don't like it because it has lower framerate, and it's pretty far behind right now.
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Youtube stream is back up.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 07 2014 06:09 orzeu wrote:
Awful shirts.
Wait that's Copenhagen wolves? I had to double take on that
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Lulu mid, you're welcome.
GOGO ALEX <33
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Is it time....for the LULU MID?
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I hope they go completely nuts and have Blitz top, Nunu Jungle.
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KOREAN META ^^
jk, but I heard Lulu mid is pretty popular over there? And we know Alex does very detailed research and doesn't only watch the big ogn matches.
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I like how gambit are leaving last pick for top so they can yasuo if good situation for it.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Alex has been spamming middle lane Lulu games for a while IIRC
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Lulu mid in theory should do well against kayle right? She can absorb her burst and should bully her, late game issue still present though.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
I love Gambits drafting <3
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Teams know teemo is op but dont pick it cause they fear everyone starts to hate them.
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10% 90% curse strike again
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
If gambit wins somewhere in coast's house wizfujin is screaming "VARUS IS VIABLE"
No winter wonderland lulu, alex pls disband.
AP eve this time, interesting
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Why doesn't genja buy bf sword wtf.
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On February 07 2014 06:31 nafta wrote:
Why doesn't genja buy bf sword wtf.
dorans4life
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maybe he wanted the lifesteal not sure seems strange
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
I'd really like to see Zhonyas on Eve, I really like it.
Nvm, hexdrinker. NATURALLY.
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interesting that Diamond takes the Spectral wraith instead of the elder lizard this game. Let's see if he goes for botrk again
gets a hexdrinker first
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
LULUUU <33
Such Pix much amaze.
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How would you build a mid lulu? With the change to her passive I'd imagine that nashor's tooth would be pretty good but I'm pretty clueless
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On February 07 2014 06:36 Scip wrote:
I'd really like to see Zhonyas on Eve, I really like it.
Nvm, hexdrinker. NATURALLY.
dont try to predict gambits items, you cant wouldnt be surprised by ie on lulu!
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On February 07 2014 06:38 phathom321 wrote:
How would you build a mid lulu? With the change to her passive I'd imagine that nashor's tooth would be pretty good but I'm pretty clueless
Athenes, Lichbane, Deathcap, pretty standard.
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Has wukong done anything? I forgot there was a monkey in this game
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ahh too bad alex missed that Q!
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Only i have echo on stream?
Or no?
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Baa?21243 Posts
This Evelynn build is amazing. Based Diamond.
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On February 07 2014 06:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Only i have echo on stream?
Or no?
Seems like there's always a little bit of echo but it gets really noticeable once the casters get a bit excited
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Forgiven who? Genja Baby!
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Greatest eve build ever
That cowtard solo kill was the first micro fight this match to go in CW's favour
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OH SHIT. Dat cowtard kill.
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United States7639 Posts
amazing just shows up 10 seconds after his lanes die and does nothing :\
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On February 07 2014 06:43 Kiett wrote:
amazing just shows up 10 seconds after his lanes die and does nothing :\
Amazing turning up late seems to be a common theme this match
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Diamond is going all over the place with his build. Love it ^^
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On February 07 2014 06:43 Kiett wrote:
amazing just shows up 10 seconds after his lanes die and does nothing :\
Yeah Amazing has had so little impact on the game, even if all the lanes are kind of equal he's done almost nothing in comparison to Diamond and it's really showing :/
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United States7639 Posts
what a horrible position for cw
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
HOW CAN CW STOP DIAMOND, HE HAS LITERALLY EVERYTHING.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
No more Fnatic on solid first place.
Mwhaha.
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On February 07 2014 06:46 Fusilero wrote:
HOW CAN CW STOP DIAMOND, HE HAS LITERALLY EVERYTHING.
I think he's missing regen and he has to be missing gp5.
THAT'S THEIR ONLY CHANCE.
They must out gp5 the diamond.
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Diamond has 4 pieces of 4 different items...how ;~;
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the jungle item is kinda g/10!
the banshee prebuild thingy is also hp/5! he got it all covered
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On February 07 2014 06:47 fantasticoranges wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 06:46 Fusilero wrote:
HOW CAN CW STOP DIAMOND, HE HAS LITERALLY EVERYTHING. I think he's missing regen and he has to be missing gp5. THAT'S THEIR ONLY CHANCE. They must out gp5 the diamond.
Spectral wraith counts as gold generating.
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So yeah CW's 5v5 comp looked pretty scary on paper, but never underestimate the power of Russian midgames!
Kayle will still be a prob though if it gets to 4+ items.
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total communication fails
"hey renekton im gonna ult u ok?"
"ok man just let me run away and then you can make me invincible"
"kk dude"
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this renekton build is cancerous
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Genja having an amazing game
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Amazing literally the only CW player to not completely fuck up their ult.
Jesus man what's happening with wolves they were the chosen ones, they were supposed to be the next big thing. Now they're about as next thing as aAa.
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Uh oh.
Such Gambit much escapes :D
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On February 07 2014 06:51 Fusilero wrote:
Amazing literally the only CW player to not completely fuck up their ult.
Jesus man what's happening with wolves they were the chosen ones, they were supposed to be the next big thing. Now they're about as next thing as aAa.
Youngbuck is unfortunately really bad top laner once it comes to the big stage.
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FOCUS THE TANK, FOCUS THE TANK
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Soon Kayle will 2 shots anyone and GG will lose ..
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Why isn't darien afk split pushing with TP up? He even went hydra, seems like a waste if he isn't trying to push
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On February 07 2014 06:57 Lylat wrote:
Soon Kayle will 2 shots anyone and GG will lose ..
In hex especially.
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FUCKING UNLIMITED. SOME HOW LIVED.
Genja and Diamond looking to hard carry this game.
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wtf is youngbuck doing
either go heal or help your team, esp when kayle still has ult
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Youngbuck is so useless this game sadly.
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Even if Alex misses crucial Qs and gets caught, they still somehow pull it off. These russians.
Next teamfight should be better now that Genja actually deals dmg again.
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On February 07 2014 06:58 phathom321 wrote:
Why isn't darien afk split pushing with TP up? He even went hydra, seems like a waste if he isn't trying to push
Probably the same reason he went twin shadows on mundo. God knows what that reason is though
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Genja needs some armor pen.
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On February 07 2014 07:02 nafta wrote:
Youngbuck is so useless this game sadly.
It's for 9th game in LCS already.
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On February 07 2014 07:03 TitusVI wrote:
Genja needs some armor pen.
naaaah, he should buy a second PD or BT obviously
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THIS SIZE LOL
Stylish points op.
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Wait wat. Russians don't give a fuck.
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and here comes the broken kayle
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On February 07 2014 07:04 RouaF wrote:naaaah, he should buy a second PD or BT obviously
or a tear. he really needs a tear.
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Imagine if Alex used his ultimate in teamfights, they would dominate imo
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On February 07 2014 07:06 Scip wrote:
Imagine if Alex used his ultimate in teamfights, they would dominate imo
What did you think about Diamond build. Tell me everything Scip-sama.
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On February 07 2014 07:07 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:06 Scip wrote:
Imagine if Alex used his ultimate in teamfights, they would dominate imo What did you think about Diamond build. Tell me everything Scip-sama.
I do not posses the mental capacity to grasp the intricacies of Diamond's build
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Gotta love Youngbuck's build, could he be a better target for Subjugate.
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genja doing so much work.
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Beastmode Genja, no surprise he's doing it with Varus!
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genja the goood
somewhere in the distant continent of North America Wizfujin is telling his teammates that varus IS VIABLE
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Dunno why forgiven wasn't with his team.Just cost them the game.
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Vancouver14381 Posts
Poll: Recommend Wolves vs Gambit Spring Week 4?Yes (8) 80% No (2) 20% If you have time (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Wolves vs Gambit Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
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On February 07 2014 07:10 AsnSensation wrote:
genja the goood
somewhere in the distant continent of North America Wizfujin is telling his teammates that varus IS VIABLE
Everything is viable when your team is good.
Wizfujin should also tell that to his team.
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Dont take Lulu again Gambit x) Good laning but late game?
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Such stylish game from Gambit.
GGs <33
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Wukong seems to add nothing to the tf besides a knock up from his ult.
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On February 07 2014 07:09 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:07 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 07 2014 07:06 Scip wrote:
Imagine if Alex used his ultimate in teamfights, they would dominate imo What did you think about Diamond build. Tell me everything Scip-sama. I do not posses the mental capacity to grasp the intricacies of Diamond's build
It looks to be just purely countering Kayle. Stack MR, get a Randuins for the attackspeed and Zhonya for the burst.
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I'm forever amazed that gambit pulls off so many odd things in their games. It shows there definitely is a gap between them and a lot of the rest of the EU LCS teams.
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was funny to see alex not having a clue how to use lulu's ult lol
gambit still looking very strong and they don't even seem to be trying 100%
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Well at least one game today should not be one sided... hopefully.
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Gambit bringing my dream to life with lulu mid. They have earned all my fan points.
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On February 07 2014 07:11 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:10 AsnSensation wrote:
genja the goood
somewhere in the distant continent of North America Wizfujin is telling his teammates that varus IS VIABLE Everything is viable when your team is good. Wizfujin should also tell that to his team.
0/2 before minions reached the bottom lane never forget.
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On February 07 2014 07:16 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:11 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 07 2014 07:10 AsnSensation wrote:
genja the goood
somewhere in the distant continent of North America Wizfujin is telling his teammates that varus IS VIABLE Everything is viable when your team is good. Wizfujin should also tell that to his team. 0/2 before minions reached the bottom lane never forget.
Still won the game
Wizfujin: Easy
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On February 07 2014 07:15 RouaF wrote:
was funny to see alex not having a clue how to use lulu's ult lol
gambit still looking very strong and they don't even seem to be trying 100%
He should have gone for an earlier Banshees or Qss, at least after the third time Unlimited flashed for him with Wukong and Renekton followup.
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On February 07 2014 07:16 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:11 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 07 2014 07:10 AsnSensation wrote:
genja the goood
somewhere in the distant continent of North America Wizfujin is telling his teammates that varus IS VIABLE Everything is viable when your team is good. Wizfujin should also tell that to his team. 0/2 before minions reached the bottom lane never forget.
still manages to split even on CS against yellowpete.
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In the last teamfights I was focusing on Genja exclusively. No surprise he did pull a no death game while noone even tried to focus him ;_;
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lol Lulu picked first so that alex can be first in LCS lulu and everyone else will be copycats.
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Next week will kill hope again or revitalize belief.
#CLGCLGCLG
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SHC so grassroots ;_: Now I want them to succed even more. Just change that horrible name one day.
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waiting for the Green Lantern transformation, dat ring.
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his earbud piece sticking out is annoying me a ton.
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Man, I remember when Sona was in every game.
Now this is her first LCS appearance (I believe)
I still think she is viable but certainly a high risk/reward pick
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On February 07 2014 07:33 wei2coolman wrote:his earbud piece sticking out is annoying me a ton.
"As a caster you have to be less biased" says monte fucking cristo.
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Lol fucking kevin facechecks and ara gets no leash.reported
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That was some slick tower aggro juggling from Millenium there.
Its amazing that teams still let Aranae get Lee...the one champ he's actually strong on.
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On February 07 2014 07:40 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2014 07:33 wei2coolman wrote:his earbud piece sticking out is annoying me a ton. "As a caster you have to be less biased" says monte fucking cristo.
he does it more softly than saint though, and he does admit it.
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"It's all gone Pete Tong"
<3 <3 <3
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On February 07 2014 07:50 Amethyst21 wrote:
That was some slick tower aggro juggling from Millenium there.
Its amazing that teams still let Aranae get Lee...the one champ he's actually strong on.
yeah, you can reduce his impact so much by banning lee. he plays every champ like him, except all of them just don't have safeguard.
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On February 07 2014 07:50 Amethyst21 wrote:
That was some slick tower aggro juggling from Millenium there.
Its amazing that teams still let Aranae get Lee...the one champ he's actually strong on.
He is obviously strong in all of the most played junglers. But Lee is actually a hero where his over-aggressiveness seemingly pays off more.
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This is painful to watch lol
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Deficio said backfoot. Someone shoot Riv please. :<
Panth passive so OP, buys your team a kill. half its kills.
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Sona ult missed and they still went 2 for 2 lol
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WW kinda suicided to make up for it so it's fine.
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Mil just wrecking through.
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Those ara shouts are really annoying.They are like 5 second spoilers....
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Millenium might be wrecking but it feels like there just not doing anything with it.
This game has been over for a long time. Go win!
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I think this is the first time I've seen a lucian actually carrying
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I guess that makes up for the last game, for MiL. Creaton fucking fed as tits.
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On February 07 2014 08:07 nafta wrote:
Those ara shouts are really annoying.They are like 5 second spoilers....
It was worse when he was with ocelote in sk together.
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Poll: Recommend SHC vs Millenium Spring Week 4?Yes (1) 8% No (9) 75% If you have time (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend SHC vs Millenium Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
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Oh hey, culling does damage if you're 14-0
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So apparently they need Creaton to close a game ... who could have guessed !
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I'm glad Creaton's back in shape. I just wish he wasn't today yet.
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Lol this creaton interview is hilarious.
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Alliance not playing first? what?
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Hm that next matches seem interesting.
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Haha I think they wont interview Creaton next time. :D
Or at least coach him a little first.
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Eh, it was the same level of trashtalk as Dyrus/dlift, except he didn't try to make it sound like he's joking too much, so it came of less cheesy and more entertaining imo.
Azubu lagging at HD for me for the first time
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So sad that Amin can't play in LCS.
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So if nip looses this they are out of the promotion tournament?
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No, they can still qualify for second challenger series, either by winning 3rd place match or by getting challenger in ranked 5s.
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nukeduck's Zed build is pretty amazing.
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There were 2 smashes btw?
Because i just wonder how did they finish 2 games in ~one hour.
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Yes, two quick surrenders, and the break between the games wasn't long. Game 2 was kinda close for 10 minutes but then pretty much a stomp.
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this is hilarious, even Riot couldn't believe fnatic lost to alliance
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sFRxPSx.gif)
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On February 08 2014 02:07 TitusVI wrote:
Interesting games today.
I'm so excited to see which team has worse decision making, alliance or millenium.
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On February 08 2014 03:05 Fusilero wrote:I'm so excited to see which team has worse decision making, alliance or millenium.
Hasn't millenium clearly proven they are the best in that category?
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On February 08 2014 03:08 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:05 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 02:07 TitusVI wrote:
Interesting games today. I'm so excited to see which team has worse decision making, alliance or millenium. Hasn't millenium clearly proven they are the best in that category?
Alliance's terrible decision making is subtle, it's not yolocides like kerp/aranae. Rather they gain a lead, lose every objective then roll over and die.
That forg1ven accent, it confuses me I need a translation
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These stats are so awful, wtf.
0 dragons between x and y minutes is a totally pointless and cherrypicked stat.
How about % of dragons that CW get?
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Araneae just has flashes of genius in a consistence of mediocrity. As long as he'll be on millenium they'll never perform really well.
Can't wait for Fnatic VS Roccat on another hand :D
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O god what has Alex Ich started with the mid Lulu in LCS
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Jinx not banned...Graves picked...uh, okay
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Graves wtf?Why would you pick a low range burst ad vs a kite/poke team comp???
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How is Lulu a good pick vs Ziggs ??
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On February 08 2014 03:27 Lylat wrote:
How is Lulu a good pick vs Ziggs ??
He blind picked Lulu, no idea why, at least Alex picked her as a Kayle counter.
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God I really hope this Graves works out.
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On February 08 2014 03:28 Anggroth wrote:He blind picked Lulu, no idea why, at least Alex picked her as a Kayle counter.
Oh ok, I didn't follow ban/pick phase
Seems kind of dumb to blind pick lulu though lol
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On February 08 2014 03:28 Anggroth wrote:He blind picked Lulu, no idea why, at least Alex picked her as a Kayle counter.
Didn't he say he was going to pick her no matter what (Alex that is), because he didn't want someone else to pick her before him and then him end up looking like a sheep?
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SK bot lane already screwed lol
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On February 08 2014 03:25 Anggroth wrote:
O god what has Alex Ich started with the mid Lulu in LCS
damnit i was fully planning on maining lulu in every lane after gragas gets nerfed, just a matter of time now before she gets gutted for being viable somewhere other than support.
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On February 08 2014 03:30 chalice wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:25 Anggroth wrote:
O god what has Alex Ich started with the mid Lulu in LCS damnit i was fully planning on maining lulu in every lane after gragas gets nerfed, just a matter of time now before she gets gutted for being viable somewhere other than support.
Dunno, she's pretty bad in teamfights against a really hard engage/cc team.
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Looks like forgiven hasn't played vs graves recently lol.He got outtraded so hard for no reason
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Looks like CandyPanda hasn't played vs Cait recently. He doesn't seem to know how to dodge piltover.
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So did SK pick Graves into Cait or blind pick Graves? Because neither of those are very good ideas
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I can't imagine why you'd pick Graves over Jinx when she's available.
Jinx would've killed that Cait easily and not spent the entire lane getting completely out cs'd and bullied.
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hoho bloodlusty bottom lane gets killed
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On February 08 2014 03:31 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:30 chalice wrote:On February 08 2014 03:25 Anggroth wrote:
O god what has Alex Ich started with the mid Lulu in LCS damnit i was fully planning on maining lulu in every lane after gragas gets nerfed, just a matter of time now before she gets gutted for being viable somewhere other than support. Dunno, she's pretty bad in teamfights against a really hard engage/cc team.
dunno, she can shield/ult the target and help it kite
and ofc you shouldn't get engaged on yourself, like every carry =)
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On February 08 2014 03:36 MattBarry wrote:
So did SK pick Graves into Cait or blind pick Graves? Because neither of those are very good ideas
Picked him into Cait, Trundle was CW's last pick iirc, the Karma was 1st picked so they knew they were playing against a hardcore poke lane. I'm struggling to work out the blind pick Lulu and the Graves into Cait/Karma.
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I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either..
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On February 08 2014 03:43 Ente wrote:
I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either..
That has always been his weakness and with how popular tanks are it makes no sense to pick him up when everything else is open.
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On February 08 2014 03:42 Affenaffe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:31 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2014 03:30 chalice wrote:On February 08 2014 03:25 Anggroth wrote:
O god what has Alex Ich started with the mid Lulu in LCS damnit i was fully planning on maining lulu in every lane after gragas gets nerfed, just a matter of time now before she gets gutted for being viable somewhere other than support. Dunno, she's pretty bad in teamfights against a really hard engage/cc team. dunno, she can shield/ult the target and help it kite and ofc you shouldn't get engaged on yourself, like every carry =)
Would have thought a Gragas/Ziggs/Ori would work better with the Wukong/Graves/Annie, the AoE combo they could put down would win instantly teamfights (assuming they hit properly), Lulu gives some more control but a massive step down in damage.
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Oh god the shields of nightmares
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On February 08 2014 03:44 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:43 Ente wrote:
I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either.. That has always been his weakness and with how popular tanks are it makes no sense to pick him up when everything else is open.
What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs?
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Jesiz also doing the same build as Alex. Does Zamphira also do the same?
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On February 08 2014 03:47 Anggroth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:42 Affenaffe wrote:On February 08 2014 03:31 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2014 03:30 chalice wrote:On February 08 2014 03:25 Anggroth wrote:
O god what has Alex Ich started with the mid Lulu in LCS damnit i was fully planning on maining lulu in every lane after gragas gets nerfed, just a matter of time now before she gets gutted for being viable somewhere other than support. Dunno, she's pretty bad in teamfights against a really hard engage/cc team. dunno, she can shield/ult the target and help it kite and ofc you shouldn't get engaged on yourself, like every carry =) Would have thought a Gragas/Ziggs/Ori would work better with the Wukong/Graves/Annie, the AoE combo they could put down would win instantly teamfights (assuming they hit properly), Lulu gives some more control but a massive step down in damage.
Wukong/Lulu is retarded though, if Wukong gets a single good ult the teamfight is instantly over.
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On February 08 2014 03:50 Ghost-z wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:44 nafta wrote:On February 08 2014 03:43 Ente wrote:
I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either.. That has always been his weakness and with how popular tanks are it makes no sense to pick him up when everything else is open. What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs?
"fairly" low dps, low range
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On February 08 2014 03:50 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:47 Anggroth wrote:On February 08 2014 03:42 Affenaffe wrote:On February 08 2014 03:31 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2014 03:30 chalice wrote:On February 08 2014 03:25 Anggroth wrote:
O god what has Alex Ich started with the mid Lulu in LCS damnit i was fully planning on maining lulu in every lane after gragas gets nerfed, just a matter of time now before she gets gutted for being viable somewhere other than support. Dunno, she's pretty bad in teamfights against a really hard engage/cc team. dunno, she can shield/ult the target and help it kite and ofc you shouldn't get engaged on yourself, like every carry =) Would have thought a Gragas/Ziggs/Ori would work better with the Wukong/Graves/Annie, the AoE combo they could put down would win instantly teamfights (assuming they hit properly), Lulu gives some more control but a massive step down in damage. Wukong/Lulu is retarded though, if Wukong gets a single good ult the teamfight is instantly over.
Would you take Wild Growth on Wukong over a Shockwave on him though?
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On February 08 2014 03:50 Redox wrote:
Jesiz also doing the same build as Alex. Does Zamphira also do the same?
I think zamphira favoured morello over grail.
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Who came up with the phrase "on towards ____"?
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That zone control and disengage between minefield, pillar of filth and inspire...
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On February 08 2014 03:51 Anggroth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:50 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2014 03:47 Anggroth wrote:On February 08 2014 03:42 Affenaffe wrote:On February 08 2014 03:31 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2014 03:30 chalice wrote:On February 08 2014 03:25 Anggroth wrote:
O god what has Alex Ich started with the mid Lulu in LCS damnit i was fully planning on maining lulu in every lane after gragas gets nerfed, just a matter of time now before she gets gutted for being viable somewhere other than support. Dunno, she's pretty bad in teamfights against a really hard engage/cc team. dunno, she can shield/ult the target and help it kite and ofc you shouldn't get engaged on yourself, like every carry =) Would have thought a Gragas/Ziggs/Ori would work better with the Wukong/Graves/Annie, the AoE combo they could put down would win instantly teamfights (assuming they hit properly), Lulu gives some more control but a massive step down in damage. Wukong/Lulu is retarded though, if Wukong gets a single good ult the teamfight is instantly over. Would you take Wild Growth on Wukong over a Shockwave on him though?
Shockwave requires more setup. Wild growth is instant and works on any engage, however weird it might be.
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On February 08 2014 03:50 Ghost-z wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:44 nafta wrote:On February 08 2014 03:43 Ente wrote:
I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either.. That has always been his weakness and with how popular tanks are it makes no sense to pick him up when everything else is open. What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs?
Lowest base AS of AD carries, tied.
Low range.
No reach (Q is lower range than pretty much every similar spells (Volley, Peacemaker, Mystic Shot, etc.) and only deals its maximum damage up to something like ~250-300 range) to make up for when he can't auto (compare to The Culling, Mystic Shot or Missile Barrage).
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On February 08 2014 03:54 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:51 Anggroth wrote:On February 08 2014 03:50 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2014 03:47 Anggroth wrote:On February 08 2014 03:42 Affenaffe wrote:On February 08 2014 03:31 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2014 03:30 chalice wrote:On February 08 2014 03:25 Anggroth wrote:
O god what has Alex Ich started with the mid Lulu in LCS damnit i was fully planning on maining lulu in every lane after gragas gets nerfed, just a matter of time now before she gets gutted for being viable somewhere other than support. Dunno, she's pretty bad in teamfights against a really hard engage/cc team. dunno, she can shield/ult the target and help it kite and ofc you shouldn't get engaged on yourself, like every carry =) Would have thought a Gragas/Ziggs/Ori would work better with the Wukong/Graves/Annie, the AoE combo they could put down would win instantly teamfights (assuming they hit properly), Lulu gives some more control but a massive step down in damage. Wukong/Lulu is retarded though, if Wukong gets a single good ult the teamfight is instantly over. Would you take Wild Growth on Wukong over a Shockwave on him though? Shockwave requires more setup. Wild growth is instant and works on any engage, however weird it might be.
True but with SK's comp you've already got Tibbers and Cyclone, I just think that some more damage is needed instead of the added CC, also I could get the Lulu pick if they had a late game adc and they were just playing a variation on the old "protect the Kog" strat, but Graves doesn't really fit that.
Edit: this is all academic anyway, SK aren't getting any of the ulti combo's off and Wild Growth is just being used to prevent picks.
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Oh my word, forg1ven going HAM
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Everytime I see Renekton vs Trundle I come to realize how much better Trundle actually is.
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On February 08 2014 03:50 Ente wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:50 Ghost-z wrote:On February 08 2014 03:44 nafta wrote:On February 08 2014 03:43 Ente wrote:
I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either.. That has always been his weakness and with how popular tanks are it makes no sense to pick him up when everything else is open. What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs? "fairly" low dps, low range
As far as dps with BT, Shiv, LW: Caitlyn has headshot and Graves has quickdraw so its fairly even in my book. Caitlyn has better defensive options (range) but Graves has better burst.
My question is, is it just because Caitlyn can attack more "safely" that makes her better against tanks? Which adc's are the best for chewing through tanks? (besides vayne)
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lulu playz
too bad it's too late
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How's game dudes?
Was watching amazing Olympic ceremony, hadn't seen anything except Lulu.
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On February 08 2014 04:07 Ghost-z wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:50 Ente wrote:On February 08 2014 03:50 Ghost-z wrote:On February 08 2014 03:44 nafta wrote:On February 08 2014 03:43 Ente wrote:
I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either.. That has always been his weakness and with how popular tanks are it makes no sense to pick him up when everything else is open. What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs? "fairly" low dps, low range As far as dps with BT, Shiv, LW: Caitlyn has headshot and Graves has quickdraw so its fairly even in my book. Caitlyn has better defensive options (range) but Graves has better burst. My question is, is it just because Caitlyn can attack more "safely" that makes her better against tanks? Which adc's are the best for chewing through tanks? (besides vayne)
What burst?Abilites are useless vs tanks.They die to crits or %hp.Range is a lot more damage than graves using his atk speed buff which also happens to be his only mobility.
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Does SK have a coach? I get what this team comp was supposed to do, but picking Graves into Caitlyn/Karma, and blind picking Lulu into midlane seems like a really poor strategy.
Especially when Jinx was open, that blows my mind. Her ult would be just as effective, if not more effective, than Graves' and she wouldn't be as mercilessly demolished in the early game/late game.
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This feels a bit like NA LCS.
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They call him Youngbuck the captain.
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On February 08 2014 04:08 Swords wrote:
Does SK have a coach? I get what this team comp was supposed to do, but picking Graves into Caitlyn/Karma, and blind picking Lulu into midlane seems like a really poor strategy.
Especially when Jinx was open, that blows my mind. Her ult would be just as effective, if not more effective, than Graves' and she wouldn't be as mercilessly demolished in the early game/late game.
Looking at their liquipedia page, nope
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On February 08 2014 04:07 Ghost-z wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:50 Ente wrote:On February 08 2014 03:50 Ghost-z wrote:On February 08 2014 03:44 nafta wrote:On February 08 2014 03:43 Ente wrote:
I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either.. That has always been his weakness and with how popular tanks are it makes no sense to pick him up when everything else is open. What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs? "fairly" low dps, low range As far as dps with BT, Shiv, LW: Caitlyn has headshot and Graves has quickdraw so its fairly even in my book. Caitlyn has better defensive options (range) but Graves has better burst. My question is, is it just because Caitlyn can attack more "safely" that makes her better against tanks? Which adc's are the best for chewing through tanks? (besides vayne)
Jinx, Tristana, Kog'Maw.
Twitch in that his range lets him hang back, or hit priority targets through the tanks.
MF, Graves, Sivir and Ezreal weep (although Ezreal can keep running contrary to these three).
Corki used to thanks to his passive scaling off crits (crit+triforce proc was like 100+ true damage) but I have no idea now, plus Phosphorous Bomb got raped with the changes (introducing a cast time is big when it comes to kiting).
Not sure how Varus fares with his %HP damage in the late game, since they'll have MR.
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On February 08 2014 04:07 Ghost-z wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:50 Ente wrote:On February 08 2014 03:50 Ghost-z wrote:On February 08 2014 03:44 nafta wrote:On February 08 2014 03:43 Ente wrote:
I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either.. That has always been his weakness and with how popular tanks are it makes no sense to pick him up when everything else is open. What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs? "fairly" low dps, low range As far as dps with BT, Shiv, LW: Caitlyn has headshot and Graves has quickdraw so its fairly even in my book. Caitlyn has better defensive options (range) but Graves has better burst. My question is, is it just because Caitlyn can attack more "safely" that makes her better against tanks? Which adc's are the best for chewing through tanks? (besides vayne)
Kog'Maw, Twitch, Tristana, Jinx, and Vayne
Kog'Maw especially. He RIPS through tanks like butter. He's just super puny in lane and very susceptible to assassination
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On February 08 2014 04:07 Ghost-z wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 03:50 Ente wrote:On February 08 2014 03:50 Ghost-z wrote:On February 08 2014 03:44 nafta wrote:On February 08 2014 03:43 Ente wrote:
I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either.. That has always been his weakness and with how popular tanks are it makes no sense to pick him up when everything else is open. What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs? "fairly" low dps, low range As far as dps with BT, Shiv, LW: Caitlyn has headshot and Graves has quickdraw so its fairly even in my book. Caitlyn has better defensive options (range) but Graves has better burst. My question is, is it just because Caitlyn can attack more "safely" that makes her better against tanks? Which adc's are the best for chewing through tanks? (besides vayne)
range isnt only safer its also more dps you can start shooting earlier you have to run less = more dps uptime its not pve you are moving so being safer = more time to do dmg
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Tbh 6-items ANYBODY is pretty scary. It's not like Graves dealt no damage.
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Oh god if SK really wins another match by stalling it to late they'll really be the new CLG.EU (Therefore, jesiz is the new froggen eheuheuhe)
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This REALLY feels like NA LCS.
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Lol I stopped watching when CW was taking inhibs in the SK base, I come back 10 min later and its still goingon? I am confused.
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On February 08 2014 04:13 MattBarry wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:07 Ghost-z wrote:On February 08 2014 03:50 Ente wrote:On February 08 2014 03:50 Ghost-z wrote:On February 08 2014 03:44 nafta wrote:On February 08 2014 03:43 Ente wrote:
I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either.. That has always been his weakness and with how popular tanks are it makes no sense to pick him up when everything else is open. What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs? "fairly" low dps, low range As far as dps with BT, Shiv, LW: Caitlyn has headshot and Graves has quickdraw so its fairly even in my book. Caitlyn has better defensive options (range) but Graves has better burst. My question is, is it just because Caitlyn can attack more "safely" that makes her better against tanks? Which adc's are the best for chewing through tanks? (besides vayne) Kog'Maw, Twitch, Tristana, Jinx, and Vayne
Kogmaw kindof depends if you can kill the tank during w hes awesome if you cant kill him during w uptime kogmaw might even die, disagree with twitch you cant really kite with him you usually prefer opening on squishies would add ashe into that because shes fairly safe, but "tanks" depend a bit which tank you are talking about
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Lol ok it's over
Candypanda: Got dragon, worth
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Epic throws this game, lol
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why did freddy122 build a last whisper?
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Poll: Recommend SK vs Wolves Spring Week 4?Yes (5) 63% No (1) 13% If you have time (2) 25% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend SK vs Wolves Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
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If SK had played an adc that wasn't Graves they would've won that game.
Except for maybe Quinn.
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I actually thought they were going to make a comeback but I guess they overstayed their welcome on mid.
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On February 08 2014 04:18 Swords wrote:
If SK had played an adc that wasn't Graves they would've won that game.
Except for maybe Quinn.
Teemo
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On February 08 2014 04:18 Swords wrote:
If SK had played an adc that wasn't Graves they would've won that game.
Except for maybe Quinn.
I like lulu mid and I like graves. I don't like lulu mid and graves, really feel like orianna or jinx instead of one of the two would have been far better here.
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yea why you would play graves in a real game is beyond me, terrible champ in his current state
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On February 08 2014 04:19 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:18 Swords wrote:
If SK had played an adc that wasn't Graves they would've won that game.
Except for maybe Quinn. I like lulu mid and I like graves. I don't like lulu mid and graves, really feel like orianna or jinx instead of one of the two would have been far better here.
Yea, had Jinx been banned then maybe I could have seen Graves, but with Jinx free there's absolutely no reason to pick Graves for that comp - you get the massive aoe execute, but with a safter laning phase against Caitlyn/Karma, a better lategame with the ability to push down towers quickly, and massive aoe ranged autos.
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On February 08 2014 04:18 nxk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:18 Swords wrote:
If SK had played an adc that wasn't Graves they would've won that game.
Except for maybe Quinn. Teemo
Still waiting for his next appearance.
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On February 08 2014 04:08 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:07 Ghost-z wrote:On February 08 2014 03:50 Ente wrote:On February 08 2014 03:50 Ghost-z wrote:On February 08 2014 03:44 nafta wrote:On February 08 2014 03:43 Ente wrote:
I played some graves recently he doesnt seem terrible but he WILL have big problems killing trundle lategame, dont think lulu has that much dps vs tanks either.. That has always been his weakness and with how popular tanks are it makes no sense to pick him up when everything else is open. What makes graves less effective at killing tanks than other ADs? "fairly" low dps, low range As far as dps with BT, Shiv, LW: Caitlyn has headshot and Graves has quickdraw so its fairly even in my book. Caitlyn has better defensive options (range) but Graves has better burst. My question is, is it just because Caitlyn can attack more "safely" that makes her better against tanks? Which adc's are the best for chewing through tanks? (besides vayne) What burst?Abilites are useless vs tanks.They die to crits or %hp.Range is a lot more damage than graves using his atk speed buff which also happens to be his only mobility.
Graves can use his Q and R in between attacks unlike Caitlyn. But crits/armor pen are the tank killers I agree, so it's not really the champions kit but rather their tendency to build IE,PD,LW,Botrk,GA that enables them to kill tanks.
edit: unless they have true damage or %hp built-in
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for single target its still better to straight up autoattack
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On February 08 2014 04:19 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:18 Swords wrote:
If SK had played an adc that wasn't Graves they would've won that game.
Except for maybe Quinn. I like lulu mid and I like graves. I don't like lulu mid and graves, really feel like orianna or jinx instead of one of the two would have been far better here.
Was it in the NA Challenger that I saw a team run the Lulu/Twitch combo where Twitch would run into the enemy team while under stealth and lulu would ult him (knocking up 2-3 people) to initiate the fight. It worked fairly well since wild growth doesnt reveal Twitch.
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On February 08 2014 04:35 Ghost-z wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 04:18 Swords wrote:
If SK had played an adc that wasn't Graves they would've won that game.
Except for maybe Quinn. I like lulu mid and I like graves. I don't like lulu mid and graves, really feel like orianna or jinx instead of one of the two would have been far better here. Was it in the NA Challenger that I saw a team run the Lulu/Twitch combo where Twitch would run into the enemy team while under stealth and lulu would ult him (knocking up 2-3 people) to initiate the fight. It worked fairly well since wild growth doesnt reveal Twitch.
lulu/twitch is also an extremely good lane on it's own merit, they compliment each other well
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On February 08 2014 04:35 Ghost-z wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 04:18 Swords wrote:
If SK had played an adc that wasn't Graves they would've won that game.
Except for maybe Quinn. I like lulu mid and I like graves. I don't like lulu mid and graves, really feel like orianna or jinx instead of one of the two would have been far better here. Was it in the NA Challenger that I saw a team run the Lulu/Twitch combo where Twitch would run into the enemy team while under stealth and lulu would ult him (knocking up 2-3 people) to initiate the fight. It worked fairly well since wild growth doesnt reveal Twitch.
I think it was vVv that used it vs LMQ? I believe it worked okay even if LMQ did crush in the end, twitch sub marine is always fun I remember KTB using him as a shen delivery system.
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Diamond just said in an interview, if Lee and Elise is banned, Eve is the best jungler.
And so they banned / picked accordingly.
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On February 08 2014 04:38 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:35 Ghost-z wrote:On February 08 2014 04:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 04:18 Swords wrote:
If SK had played an adc that wasn't Graves they would've won that game.
Except for maybe Quinn. I like lulu mid and I like graves. I don't like lulu mid and graves, really feel like orianna or jinx instead of one of the two would have been far better here. Was it in the NA Challenger that I saw a team run the Lulu/Twitch combo where Twitch would run into the enemy team while under stealth and lulu would ult him (knocking up 2-3 people) to initiate the fight. It worked fairly well since wild growth doesnt reveal Twitch. I think it was vVv that used it vs LMQ? I believe it worked okay even if LMQ did crush in the end, twitch sub marine is always fun I remember KTB using him as a shen delivery system.
Bring Orianna (does the ball cloak with twitch?), Shen and Lulu for nuclear submarine Twitch!
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On February 08 2014 04:42 wei2coolman wrote:
THE COWWWWWWWWWW
Cow picked without 4 support bans? MADNESS EDWARD PLS
On February 08 2014 04:41 Ghost-z wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:38 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 04:35 Ghost-z wrote:On February 08 2014 04:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 04:18 Swords wrote:
If SK had played an adc that wasn't Graves they would've won that game.
Except for maybe Quinn. I like lulu mid and I like graves. I don't like lulu mid and graves, really feel like orianna or jinx instead of one of the two would have been far better here. Was it in the NA Challenger that I saw a team run the Lulu/Twitch combo where Twitch would run into the enemy team while under stealth and lulu would ult him (knocking up 2-3 people) to initiate the fight. It worked fairly well since wild growth doesnt reveal Twitch. I think it was vVv that used it vs LMQ? I believe it worked okay even if LMQ did crush in the end, twitch sub marine is always fun I remember KTB using him as a shen delivery system. Bring Orianna (does the ball cloak with twitch?), Shen and Lulu for nuclear submarine Twitch!
Full tank twitch with randuins, ninjas into their team. Drops surprise shen/lulu/ori ults, rito pls nerf.
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Genja needs to carry hard again. Gambit lacks dmg and reliable engage kinda. But SHC's comp will engage on them most of the time anyway but it will be hard to siege if they're ahead.
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You can't milk those.
Let's go.
#FORTHERUSSIA
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Prefer the Lulu mid with this comp, less AoE CC in the rest of the team and a you've got a bigger damage threat with Eve and the late game adc with Jinx
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Don't know why EU players so comfortable playing the Trundle vs Renekton matchup. :/ I think that's an easy snowball for renekton if he gets early offensive item (either 2 dblade + 1 dshield, or tiamat (hydra), or bildgewater (botrk).
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On February 08 2014 04:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Don't know why EU players so comfortable playing the Trundle vs Renekton matchup. :/ I think that's an easy snowball for renekton if he gets early offensive item (either 2 dblade + 1 dshield, or tiamat (hydra), or bildgewater (botrk).
Lol, mimer winning a lane. I do agree, renekton can easily shit on trundle and I feel like teams should be more careful still not a fan of all the trundle blind picks.
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this isn't solo q so 1. a top is never going to easily win since they all play safe for the most part 2. they are always going to be building tanky for their team in lieu of "gettin dem kills top"
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On February 08 2014 04:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Don't know why EU players so comfortable playing the Trundle vs Renekton matchup. :/ I think that's an easy snowball for renekton if he gets early offensive item (either 2 dblade + 1 dshield, or tiamat (hydra), or bildgewater (botrk).
It's not really a 1v1 so I think that matters?
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On February 08 2014 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
this isn't solo q so 1. a top is never going to easily win since they all play safe for the most part 2. they are always going to be building tanky for their team in lieu of "gettin dem kills top"
Hydra first on renek after the sunfire/visage nerfs is way mre popular on Renekton now from what I've seen. Unless you're youngbuck
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On February 08 2014 04:48 Gator wrote:
edward starts E on ali?
Well you're not gonna really be able to do anything really early on except be thresh/lucian's bitch so start heal to not lose lane at level 1
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Gambit botlane playing like always. If they go to allstar I will cry.
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On February 08 2014 04:48 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
this isn't solo q so 1. a top is never going to easily win since they all play safe for the most part 2. they are always going to be building tanky for their team in lieu of "gettin dem kills top" Hydra first on renek after the sunfire/visage nerfs is way mre popular on Renekton now from what I've seen. Unless you're youngbuck
that's a good point, have seen more hydra recently
I still think the matchup is pretty even since renek tends to push. trundle can just farm safely for the most part and threatens with good gank aid
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On February 08 2014 04:48 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Don't know why EU players so comfortable playing the Trundle vs Renekton matchup. :/ I think that's an easy snowball for renekton if he gets early offensive item (either 2 dblade + 1 dshield, or tiamat (hydra), or bildgewater (botrk). It's not really a 1v1 so I think that matters?
usually past level 3 it's a 1v1, cuz if you see jungler on top, enemy team gets easy dragon. Look at how mimer is just going so deep, doesn't even care about eve.
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So that's the potential that gambit sees in SHC
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Team Purple not off to a good start.
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Why would you take that fight as gambit? Trundle still only had a dshield and renek had already bought. So bad.
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On February 08 2014 04:51 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:48 AsnSensation wrote:On February 08 2014 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
this isn't solo q so 1. a top is never going to easily win since they all play safe for the most part 2. they are always going to be building tanky for their team in lieu of "gettin dem kills top" Hydra first on renek after the sunfire/visage nerfs is way mre popular on Renekton now from what I've seen. Unless you're youngbuck that's a good point, have seen more hydra recently I still think the matchup is pretty even since renek tends to push. trundle can just farm safely for the most part and threatens with good gank aid
no, renekton pushing is a good thing for renekton. he can force trundle under turret, that means he can roam harder, and deny some cs.
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I hope this stops the lulu mid hype train lol
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Can't stop the Crocodile.
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On February 08 2014 04:45 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Don't know why EU players so comfortable playing the Trundle vs Renekton matchup. :/ I think that's an easy snowball for renekton if he gets early offensive item (either 2 dblade + 1 dshield, or tiamat (hydra), or bildgewater (botrk). Lol, mimer winning a lane. I do agree, renekton can easily shit on trundle and I feel like teams should be more careful still not a fan of all the trundle blind picks.
In almost all the games we see Renekton is not destroying Trudnle. He maybe gets 20 cs lead if things go well and then late game Trundle is way better.
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On February 08 2014 04:55 Lylat wrote:
I hope this stops the lulu mid hype train lol
Alex was useless with her yesterday as well.
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Dayum son 4 accounts in challenger OP
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Whoever has bet money on shc is now in hope^^
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wow diamond got destroyed lmao
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Renekton is ridiculously strong rofl
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On February 08 2014 04:56 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:55 Lylat wrote:
I hope this stops the lulu mid hype train lol Alex was useless with her yesterday as well.
It's a good pick, but I don't think Alex knows how to play it that well.
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3/0 and number 1 CS in the game. Good start for Renekton.
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Did Mimer finally overcome stage fright or is he simply having a good day?
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So Mimer finally playing well?
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I love how some people discuss Riot wanting to nerf Renekton.
#1 top laner for now a year or so, yeah, balanced hero.
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On February 08 2014 04:58 AlterKot wrote:
Did Mimer finally overcome stage fright or is he simply having a good day?
He got two kills from that 3v3 SHC picked against gambit at gambit's red buff and he's snowballing it really well.
Wow SHC are ahead without MrRallez/Migxa 2v5ing :O
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On February 08 2014 04:58 AlterKot wrote:
Did Mimer finally overcome stage fright or is he simply having a good day?
he's playing renekton
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On February 08 2014 04:58 mr_tolkien wrote:
I love how some people discuss Riot wanting to nerf Renekton.
#1 top laner for now a year or so, yeah, balanced hero.
Would be terrible if he did nothing as a early/mid game champion that gets 2 kills on a silver platter.
Also Diamond overextended with like 30% hp.
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On February 08 2014 04:58 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:58 AlterKot wrote:
Did Mimer finally overcome stage fright or is he simply having a good day? He got two kills from that 3v3 SHC picked against gambit at gambit's red buff and he's snowballing it really well. Wow SHC are ahead without MrRallez/Migxa 2v5ing :O
Let it be known, that he had huge item advantage compared to trundle, because Renekton can push out the lane without losing CS, and have time to back to buy items. That's why Renekton was so strong at that time.
gambit going to fucking need clg.eu level of stall to win.
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On February 08 2014 05:00 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 04:58 mr_tolkien wrote:
I love how some people discuss Riot wanting to nerf Renekton.
#1 top laner for now a year or so, yeah, balanced hero. Would be terrible if he did nothing as a early/mid game champion that gets 2 kills on a silver platter.
I hate this ignorant bullshit. Renekton scales fine in the late game, him being OP as fuck early does NOT mean he's weak late, Riot doesn't know how to create power curves.
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I'm impressed with SHC, this is really good play.
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Btw why do pros not get hydra when they go tiamat on renekton?
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What did we learn today?
Don't blind pick trundle.
On February 08 2014 05:02 Fusilero wrote:
Btw why do pros not get hydra when they go tiamat on renekton?
Renekton has tons of innate sustain so doesn't need lifesteal too badly, and by the time they get tiamat, it's time to start grouping for dragons and waht not, so building tanky is better.
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On February 08 2014 05:02 Fusilero wrote:
Btw why do pros not get hydra when they go tiamat on renekton?
Lifesteal is a wasted stat if you don't have tremendously high amounts of auto attack damage. Tiamat gives pushing power, burst, and sustain by itself.
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This game remind me of OMG's games, fast tower pushes, and golden triangles with top jungle and mid dictating the pace of the game.
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On February 08 2014 05:02 wei2coolman wrote:What did we learn today? Don't blind pick trundle. Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:02 Fusilero wrote:
Btw why do pros not get hydra when they go tiamat on renekton? Renekton has tons of innate sustain so doesn't need lifesteal too badly, and by the time they get tiamat, it's time to start grouping for dragons and waht not, so building tanky is better.
pretty irrelevant, vi is just way outplaying eve as referenced by the many many trundle vs renek games that go perfectly fine for trundle
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Okay, that hook was pretty nice.
report moopz for feeding.
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MOOPZ WHY YOU RUIN THE PERFECT GAME
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Typical Gambit :D
Time to feed once in 2-3 weeks.
Migxa is beast tonight though.
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Hey guys, I think gambit has a chance of beating SKT with edward back.
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... I just came back.
What.
The.
Fuck.
Can anyone summarize what happened that Gambit is so behind? o_o
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On February 08 2014 05:05 Alaric wrote:
... I just came back.
What.
The.
Fuck.
Can anyone summarize what happened that Gambit is so behind? o_o
Renekton got early 2 kills at Gambit's red buff.
Renekton snowballed hard. Moopz+Impaler gank squad doing work all over map.
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On February 08 2014 05:02 wei2coolman wrote:
What did we learn today?
Don't blind pick trundle.
Huh? People were also picking Trundle into Renekton, and it was just fine. I am very sure if SHC had picked Renekton first, gambit would have picked Trundle just the same.
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On February 08 2014 05:05 Alaric wrote:
... I just came back.
What.
The.
Fuck.
Can anyone summarize what happened that Gambit is so behind? o_o
Typical gambit game, they got stomped 15-0 or something
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SHC confirmed #5 team world
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On February 08 2014 05:05 Alaric wrote:
... I just came back.
What.
The.
Fuck.
Can anyone summarize what happened that Gambit is so behind? o_o
SHC hyper aggressively invaded diamond's eve, renekton/vi/kayle (with first blood) is stronger 3v3 than trundle/eve/lulu (Especially when lulu is down her ult) and mimer snowballed the game hard with the two kills he picked up from that fight.
Tbh I change my mind, I think you can blind pick trundle but blind picking eve opened them up for SHC's solos to play very aggressive on shutting their counterparts down early
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Really impressed by the prep level SHC has on this game, and how well they are playing it. Looks like their bootcamp paid off
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On February 08 2014 05:06 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:02 wei2coolman wrote:
What did we learn today?
Don't blind pick trundle.
Huh? People were also picking Trundle into Renekton, and it was just fine. I am very sure if SHC had picked Renekton first, gambit would have picked Trundle just the same.
and that's the problem. you don't just pick trundle into whatever.
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On February 08 2014 05:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Hey guys, I think gambit has a chance of beating SKT with edward back.
Yup, Gambit has never been known to have inconsistent LCS performances
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Great pick by Mimer there.
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please tell me the game is going to last next 45 min, I am stuck at work to 10 pm CET and really didn't want to miss Fnatic vs Roccat
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Chill guys, even the better team don't win 100% of the games against "lesser" teams. Fnatic did the same shit yesterday. It happens, just enjoy SHC playing well.
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Jesus christ, this fucking crocodile doing work.
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What a slaughter. Really well done !
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Poll: Recommend SHC vs Gambit Spring Week 4?Yes (10) 91% No (0) 0% If you have time (1) 9% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend SHC vs Gambit Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
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On February 08 2014 05:10 RouaF wrote:
Chill guys, even the better team don't win 100% of the games against "lesser" teams. Fnatic did the same shit yesterday. It happens, just enjoy SHC playing well.
100% win rate skt on ogn winter so.
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Shit happens :D
Time for [A] to fight for my pride and fantasy team.
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On February 08 2014 05:08 Amethyst21 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Hey guys, I think gambit has a chance of beating SKT with edward back. Yup, Gambit has never been known to have inconsistent LCS performances
Exactly. If you're trying to beat SKT, who performs consistently like the best team in the world, you have to be a lot better than just an inconsistently good team.
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SHC's reaction to gambit's draft was incredible, they knew their solos power timings were far earlier and stronger than their counter parts. By taking complete control of diamond mimer was free to snowball top and in the end top lane was beyond recovery, it got quickly transferred to mid and since MrRallez/Migxa were doing well at bot all avenues of gambit were shut out.
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On February 08 2014 05:08 Amethyst21 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Hey guys, I think gambit has a chance of beating SKT with edward back. Yup, Gambit has never been known to have inconsistent LCS performances
This would be like SKT losing to a bottom tier OGN team like jinair
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Am I the only one that totally wasn't amazed by that trash hook?
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yea if you go with the eve jungle pick you need to pick much stronger laners or you risk that happening
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On February 08 2014 05:13 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:08 Amethyst21 wrote:On February 08 2014 05:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Hey guys, I think gambit has a chance of beating SKT with edward back. Yup, Gambit has never been known to have inconsistent LCS performances This would be like SKT losing to a bottom tier OGN team like jinair
Well they lost 2-0 in the WCG qualifiers vs Samsung Blue, while not a bottom tier OGN team, they're hardly one of the top ones (also the bottom tier is a bit harsh considering OGN has twice the number of teams than LCS).
Every now and then shit happens and Gambit do tend to have crap games where they get completely stomped (remember them vs Giants in Spring last year)
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It would be nice to see SHC continue growing as a professional team with the experience they are getting in the LCS. They made some nice plays and abused Gambit's weakness in their comp really good.
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Lol Gambit went 15-13 last split. The big surprise is that they already won so many games so far, not they lost a few now.
Cant believe some seem to be shocked by them losing a game.
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On February 08 2014 05:14 Peeano wrote:
Am I the only one that totally wasn't amazed by that trash hook?
You have to consider that the wolf camp was there, if he had hooked just a pixel to the left he would have caught a wolf, the hook was just perfect.
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On February 08 2014 05:16 Redox wrote:
Lol Gambit went 15-13 last split. The big surprise is that they already won so many games so far, not they lost a few now.
Cant believe some seem to be shocked by them losing a game.
I think it's more how hard they lost to an inconsistent SHC as much as anything.
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On February 08 2014 05:17 Lonyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:16 Redox wrote:
Lol Gambit went 15-13 last split. The big surprise is that they already won so many games so far, not they lost a few now.
Cant believe some seem to be shocked by them losing a game. I think it's more how hard they lost to an inconsistent SHC as much as anything.
Nothing is as inconsistent as Gambit though.
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Gambit have always been known to step it up in offline/important events, losing an LCS game is really no big deal. Who cares if they're inconsistent as long as they deliver in big tournaments ?
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On February 08 2014 05:15 Anggroth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:13 Itsmedudeman wrote:On February 08 2014 05:08 Amethyst21 wrote:On February 08 2014 05:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Hey guys, I think gambit has a chance of beating SKT with edward back. Yup, Gambit has never been known to have inconsistent LCS performances This would be like SKT losing to a bottom tier OGN team like jinair Well they lost 2-0 in the WCG qualifiers vs Samsung Blue, while not a bottom tier OGN team, they're hardly one of the top ones (also the bottom tier is a bit harsh considering OGN has twice the number of teams than LCS). Every now and then shit happens and Gambit do tend to have crap games where they get completely stomped (remember them vs Giants in Spring last year)
SG Blue is a top 5 team.
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On February 08 2014 05:12 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:08 Amethyst21 wrote:On February 08 2014 05:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Hey guys, I think gambit has a chance of beating SKT with edward back. Yup, Gambit has never been known to have inconsistent LCS performances Exactly. If you're trying to beat SKT, who performs consistently like the best team in the world, you have to be a lot better than just an inconsistently good team.
I don't really understand that... If you beat them with a good performance, it doesn't really matter if you have bad days or not.
I wont tell that Gambit would beat SKT, but an inconsistent good team can beat a consistent good team if the inconsistent good team has a good day. Or is this wrong?
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On February 08 2014 05:17 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:14 Peeano wrote:
Am I the only one that totally wasn't amazed by that trash hook? You have to consider that the wolf camp was there, if he had hooked just a pixel to the left he would have caught a wolf, the hook was just perfect.
Also, with spectator vision it looks easier, but when you take into account what he could see at the time and the fact Lulu has a speed buff, it was a good hook.
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it did seem to me that during champ select shc was trying to force the lulu mid pick, like they were probably really prepared for the eve/lulu combo
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On February 08 2014 05:17 Lonyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:16 Redox wrote:
Lol Gambit went 15-13 last split. The big surprise is that they already won so many games so far, not they lost a few now.
Cant believe some seem to be shocked by them losing a game. I think it's more how hard they lost to an inconsistent SHC as much as anything.
I think the fastest loss of last split was Gambit when they were stomped by LD, when LD didnt even have a good record.
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On February 08 2014 05:19 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:17 Lonyo wrote:On February 08 2014 05:16 Redox wrote:
Lol Gambit went 15-13 last split. The big surprise is that they already won so many games so far, not they lost a few now.
Cant believe some seem to be shocked by them losing a game. I think it's more how hard they lost to an inconsistent SHC as much as anything. I think the fastest loss of last split was Gambit when they were stomped by LD, when LD didnt even have a good record.
AKA the match that single handedly put dexter in contention for one of the best jungler in EU.
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On February 08 2014 05:17 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:14 Peeano wrote:
Am I the only one that totally wasn't amazed by that trash hook? You have to consider that the wolf camp was there, if he had hooked just a pixel to the left he would have caught a wolf, the hook was just perfect.
when i saw it the first time live i was wondering if the wolves had spawned after the hook
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On February 08 2014 05:17 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:14 Peeano wrote:
Am I the only one that totally wasn't amazed by that trash hook? You have to consider that the wolf camp was there, if he had hooked just a pixel to the left he would have caught a wolf, the hook was just perfect.
I do, but it didn't seem like Alex Ich did take it into account and he actually walked back into the hook?
I'd rather call that bad play by Alex Ich than give so much credit to the hook.
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On February 08 2014 05:15 suicideyear wrote:
i have still not seen a lulu mid do well in a pro game
Because lulu mid isn't that good tbh. She has very poor ratios. She lanes well but doesn't have enough nuking power. To me she's just good if you can abuse her ult on a big tanky champ that dives the enemy team (shyv is perfect for this for example, renek and wukong also work pretty well). You also need to have a lot of dps on your ad/top since you won't be doing that much damage. So basically you have to build the team around her...
And no I'm not pulling this out of my ass, I play a ton of lulu support so I gave her a try mid and even in diamond 5-4 (while i'm usually 1) I have a hard time pulling it off.
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when is ROC vs Fnatic starting? "Could someone LR plz? thx in advance
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Hes right that flash ignite from lulu early game was really bad. He got no kill out of it and additionally died to a gank then.
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On February 08 2014 05:21 chalice wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:17 RouaF wrote:On February 08 2014 05:14 Peeano wrote:
Am I the only one that totally wasn't amazed by that trash hook? You have to consider that the wolf camp was there, if he had hooked just a pixel to the left he would have caught a wolf, the hook was just perfect. when i saw it the first time live i was wondering if the wolves had spawned after the hook
That would explain Alex Ich's movement, but then I still strongely doubt Thresh knew the exact spawntiming on the wolves.
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On February 08 2014 05:22 Chemiczny84 wrote:
when is ROC vs Fnatic starting? "Could someone LR plz? thx in advance
I'll try and LR, might have to stop half way though.
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On February 08 2014 05:24 Peeano wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:21 chalice wrote:On February 08 2014 05:17 RouaF wrote:On February 08 2014 05:14 Peeano wrote:
Am I the only one that totally wasn't amazed by that trash hook? You have to consider that the wolf camp was there, if he had hooked just a pixel to the left he would have caught a wolf, the hook was just perfect. when i saw it the first time live i was wondering if the wolves had spawned after the hook That would explain Alex Ich's movement, but then I still strongely doubt Thresh knew the exact spawntiming on the wolves.
in the replay the wolves were clearly already there, it's just that the hook was, as mentioned, so perfectly placed down to the pixel that it almost seemed impossible at first glance.
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On February 08 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:22 Chemiczny84 wrote:
when is ROC vs Fnatic starting? "Could someone LR plz? thx in advance
I'll try and LR, might have to stop half way though.
Wei2coolman may have to pause his LR to bash EU ADCs.
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On February 08 2014 05:27 chalice wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:24 Peeano wrote:On February 08 2014 05:21 chalice wrote:On February 08 2014 05:17 RouaF wrote:On February 08 2014 05:14 Peeano wrote:
Am I the only one that totally wasn't amazed by that trash hook? You have to consider that the wolf camp was there, if he had hooked just a pixel to the left he would have caught a wolf, the hook was just perfect. when i saw it the first time live i was wondering if the wolves had spawned after the hook That would explain Alex Ich's movement, but then I still strongely doubt Thresh knew the exact spawntiming on the wolves. in the replay the wolves were clearly already there, it's just that the hook was, as mentioned, so perfectly placed down to the pixel that it almost seemed impossible at first glance.
The hook would still have missed Lulu though, Alex Ich walked back into it for no reason.
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On February 08 2014 05:27 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:On February 08 2014 05:22 Chemiczny84 wrote:
when is ROC vs Fnatic starting? "Could someone LR plz? thx in advance
I'll try and LR, might have to stop half way though. Wei2coolman may have to pause his LR to bash EU ADCs.
It might be part of my LR. hue hue hue.
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And Vander got Thresh again.
Fnatic want hard game :D
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Ziggs first pick is interesting.
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It feels like when the bets are too much one sided you should bet on the weaker team.
If friends of gambit bet 10k on shc they had now 40k.
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On February 08 2014 05:34 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
And Vander got Thresh again.
Fnatic want hard game :D
To be fair though, after Yellowstar's thresh play yesterday I'd be tempted to let him have thresh.
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On February 08 2014 05:35 TitusVI wrote:
It feels like when the bets are too much one sided you should bet on the weaker team.
If friends of gambit bet 10k on shc they had now 40k.
Why "friends", uh?
Also y u pick Lucian. D:
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Fnatic teamcomp is pretty bad.
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On February 08 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:22 Chemiczny84 wrote:
when is ROC vs Fnatic starting? "Could someone LR plz? thx in advance
I'll try and LR, might have to stop half way though.
Fnatic first pick/ban
Bans:
Fnatic: Pantheon/Kayle/Gragas
Roccat: Kass/Annie/Yasuo
Picks:
Fnatic: Ziggs/Caitlyn/Leona/Lee Sin/Mundo
Roccat: Thresh/Elise/Renekton/Luician/Khaziks.
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It is apparent Deficio has been working on his intonation. He is trying to avoid to stress words danish style.
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On February 08 2014 05:37 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:On February 08 2014 05:22 Chemiczny84 wrote:
when is ROC vs Fnatic starting? "Could someone LR plz? thx in advance
I'll try and LR, might have to stop half way though. Fnatic first pick/banBans: Fnatic: Pantheon/Kayle/Gragas Roccat: Kass/Annie/Yasuo Picks: Fnatic: Ziggs/Caitlyn/Leona/Lee Sin/Mundo Roccat: Thresh/Elise/Renekton/Luician/ Kha'Zix.
Ftfy.
If Roccat snowballs, it's gg.
And if Cyanide builds SotL again it's gg.
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On February 08 2014 05:36 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:35 TitusVI wrote:
It feels like when the bets are too much one sided you should bet on the weaker team.
If friends of gambit bet 10k on shc they had now 40k. Why "friends", uh? Also y u pick Lucian. D:
friends is obviously a euphemism for the russian mafia, if you look at alex's prematch comments about SHC being a strong team with a super paranoid perspective it kind of makes sense.
lucian is all about culling minions, their team's waveclear seems a bit low against ziggs and cait.
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On February 08 2014 05:41 chalice wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:36 Alaric wrote:On February 08 2014 05:35 TitusVI wrote:
It feels like when the bets are too much one sided you should bet on the weaker team.
If friends of gambit bet 10k on shc they had now 40k. Why "friends", uh? Also y u pick Lucian. D: friends is obviously a euphemism for the russian mafia, if you look at alex's prematch comments about SHC being a strong team with a super paranoid perspective it kind of makes sense.
I am also always worried about esports betting, but I think the overall turnover on one bet is way too low to get real criminals involved.
edit: But Alex talking SHC up makes no sense in this context.
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A TP and bot lane coming to mid? Fnatic really do not like jankos
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Fnatic all converging on mid was pretty bad there.
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Obligatory mid season Fnatic slump.
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Another person w/ just a dshield picks a fight against a renek w/ items.
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Honestlly imo Roccat outdrafted fnatic hard
Thresh/Elise/K6
They should just ban thresh if yellow cant play him
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ughhhh soaz Oo he had a pickaxe
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I've noticed a trend of kha evolving wings instead of Q at 6. A bit curious as to why, do they want overpow to roam really early?
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On February 08 2014 05:47 Ente wrote:Honestlly imo Roccat outdrafted fnatic hard Thresh/Elise/K6 They should just ban thresh if yellow cant play him
First pick Ziggs was retarded.
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On February 08 2014 05:47 Fusilero wrote:
I've noticed a trend of kha evolving wings instead of Q at 6. A bit curious as to why, do they want overpow to roam really early?
E upgrade is really crazy range-wise. The ability to get resets also allows you to go deeper for kills.
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On February 08 2014 03:50 Redox wrote:
Jesiz also doing the same build as Alex. Does Zamphira also do the same?
Zamphira favours early haunting guise+sorc boots for early pressure.
Jesiz and Alex is basically following the Korean mainstream build.
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SHC is a very talented team that played together for what, a month? It was obvious they will need time to become better. Also, this game proves my point that EU LCS is pretty close, and I'm expecting it to become closer and closer as weeks pass. Also, Gambit is the one team that really thrives with bo3 format, because their playstyle involves a certain ammount of risk and unpredictability. The only reasons they are considered "inconsistent" are a) they don't have as much time to practice and adapt as other teams in their league b) they are willing to take risks and test new things despite that. I'm really looking forward to their performance at IEM Katowice.
GO ROCCAT GO
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Guh. Something come up. Can someone continue lr for me?
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Casters never consider support cs when talking about who has more in bot. Both sides have nearly the same.
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On February 08 2014 05:52 Redox wrote:
Casters never consider support cs when talking about who has more in bot. Both sides have nearly the same.
Does the targon thingy count as CS for the support? Would explain a lot
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On February 08 2014 05:53 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:52 Redox wrote:
Casters never consider support cs when talking about who has more in bot. Both sides have nearly the same. Does the targon thingy count as CS for the support? Would explain a lot
Yes counts for both.
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Lol what, neither junglers actually smited it somehow vander got it.
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rofl vander got dragon and kill
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Vander gets the dragon AND the kill lol
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Hahahahahahahaha...Thresh got the Dragon.
Move aside Aphromoo.
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damn cyanide got blown up
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i love renekton not finishing hydra and going tanky instead
perfect build
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What the hell was Yolostar doing there.
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NEW HOLY TRINITY IN FIRST PLACE.
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On February 08 2014 05:54 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:53 Numy wrote:On February 08 2014 05:52 Redox wrote:
Casters never consider support cs when talking about who has more in bot. Both sides have nearly the same. Does the targon thingy count as CS for the support? Would explain a lot Yes counts for both.
To specify the cs are counted as support cs but the ad carry gets gold so basically you can add the support cs to the ad cs
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Sad to see Fnatic and Gambit loosing this week. Also glad that the new teams is improving so fast!
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On February 08 2014 05:58 739 wrote:
Cyanide plz lol
Fnatic please stop giving cyanide Lee Sin seriously
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On February 08 2014 05:58 739 wrote:
Cyanide plz lol
lol
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They dont realize that Thresh has relic shield, and they arent actualy losing on cs but wining.
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Roccat are such an impressive team. They actually rotate and play as a team instead of just relying on good laning. How did t his team just suddenly appear and where have they been all this time.
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On February 08 2014 05:56 Ente wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:54 Redox wrote:On February 08 2014 05:53 Numy wrote:On February 08 2014 05:52 Redox wrote:
Casters never consider support cs when talking about who has more in bot. Both sides have nearly the same. Does the targon thingy count as CS for the support? Would explain a lot Yes counts for both. To specify the cs are counted as support cs but the ad carry gets gold so basically you can add the support cs to the ad cs
Indeed. Then again when we count both together we also have to add the gold earned with coin and stuff. But I am pretty sure when casters said that Fnatic bot was ahead the Roccat bot actually had earned more gold overall and about the same gold on the adc's.
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On February 08 2014 06:00 Numy wrote:
Roccat are such an impressive team. They actually rotate and play as a team instead of just relying on good laning. How did t his team just suddenly appear and where have they been all this time.
to think nip picked them thinking they are weakest team in lcs lol
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Damn, Overpow played that so nice. Peke was denying him really well with his satchel charge before this.
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On February 08 2014 05:37 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:On February 08 2014 05:22 Chemiczny84 wrote:
when is ROC vs Fnatic starting? "Could someone LR plz? thx in advance
I'll try and LR, might have to stop half way though. Fnatic first pick/banBans: Fnatic: Pantheon/Kayle/Gragas Roccat: Kass/Annie/Yasuo Picks: Fnatic: Ziggs/Caitlyn/Leona/Lee Sin/Mundo Roccat: Thresh/Elise/Renekton/Luician/Khaziks.
Okay, I'm back.
22min
FNC 3 kills : 7 kills Roc
Fnc 29.k gold: Roc at 37.k gold
0 turrets (fnc) : 3 turrets (roc)
Roccat shoving botlane 2nd turret, (takes it), grabs dragon.
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On February 08 2014 06:00 Numy wrote:
Roccat are such an impressive team. They actually rotate and play as a team instead of just relying on good laning. How did t his team just suddenly appear and where have they been all this time.
The same place every non MYM Polish team is, changing roster after every defeat. After over two years of Poland chopping and changing non MYM players they finally found a winning formula with anexis' core of xaxus/overpow/celavar (The only non-MYM players to stick together) with jankos and vander.
On February 08 2014 06:01 kongoline wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:00 Numy wrote:
Roccat are such an impressive team. They actually rotate and play as a team instead of just relying on good laning. How did t his team just suddenly appear and where have they been all this time. to think nip picked them thinking they are weakest team in lcs lol
NiP probably wonder every night what if they had picked SHC when they had the chance.
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Overpow just doesn't care.
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lol that was such suicide jump
vander is such a god on thresh i dont get why they dont ban it vs him
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Cyanide is more free than porn on the internet.
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Junglers gotta figure out new Baron steal routes. They're getting way too predictable.
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On February 08 2014 06:04 mr_tolkien wrote:
Cyanide is more free than porn on the internet.
nice one. twitch chat?
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Fnatic just sacked 2 towers to kill Overpow.
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Wait why does leona have a chalice?
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I've just realised, overpow has a brawler's glove. What
Oh youmuu's, forgot about that item on kha
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On February 08 2014 06:07 TitusVI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:04 mr_tolkien wrote:
Cyanide is more free than porn on the internet. nice one. twitch chat?
No, that's just my go-to joke when somebody dies for nothing.
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On February 08 2014 06:07 Swords wrote:
Fnatic just sacked 2 towers to kill Overpow.
Worth?
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On February 08 2014 06:08 Numy wrote:
Wait why does leona have a chalice?
Probably mikael's, rekkles has to stay alive and a single second in hook is enough for overpow to explode him.
Okay xaxus, chill out
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On February 08 2014 06:08 Fusilero wrote:Probably mikael's, rekkles has to stay alive and a single second in hook is enough for overpow to explode him.
Ah ok that makes sense. Always forget about that item.
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Not best week for Cyanide.
Time for [A] to smash :D
EVEN WORSE, NEVERMIND.
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damn cyanide caught each time he tries to go in, really impressive stuff by roccat
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No crocodile left behind pls
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Two damage items on renekton, full AP elise, youmuu's kha. Roccat manliness is too much
JANKOS IS A GOD
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On February 08 2014 06:01 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 05:37 wei2coolman wrote:On February 08 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:On February 08 2014 05:22 Chemiczny84 wrote:
when is ROC vs Fnatic starting? "Could someone LR plz? thx in advance
I'll try and LR, might have to stop half way though. Fnatic first pick/banBans: Fnatic: Pantheon/Kayle/Gragas Roccat: Kass/Annie/Yasuo Picks: Fnatic: Ziggs/Caitlyn/Leona/Lee Sin/Mundo Roccat: Thresh/Elise/Renekton/Luician/Khaziks. Okay, I'm back. 22min FNC 3 kills : 7 kills Roc Fnc 29.k gold: Roc at 37.k gold 0 turrets (fnc) : 3 turrets (roc) Roccat shoving botlane 2nd turret, (takes it), grabs dragon.
I swear, shit always happens when I want to LR
Time : 32min
fnc 5 kills, roc 8 kills.
15k gold difference, roc at 60k
roc has 2 inhibs of fnatic. overpow and xaxus die, fnatic goes for baron, jankos steals baron, and cleans up fnatic.
game over pretty much.
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cyanide
please
no more lee
just stop it
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Lol Cyanide with the Saint smite
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Cyanide just got demolished this game.
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Poll: Recommend Fnatic vs ROCCAT Spring Week 4?Yes (9) 60% No (6) 40% If you have time (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Fnatic vs ROCCAT Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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more embarassing
getting baron stolen or getting double culled?
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Talk about adding insult to injury...
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i was gonna say did roccat just throw, but holy crap that jankos baron steal
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Level 13 Lee vs. level 17 Elise. Good effort but no real hope.
Roccat <3
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Jankos is by far the best jungler right now in EU. Hasn't bad game yet.
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Now it's time to see whether Alliance's win was a fluke.
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On February 08 2014 06:11 Kiett wrote:
cyanide
please
no more lee
just stop it
When he ulted jankos and somehow still missed the Q I actually cried.
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This was an amazing game by Roccat, so much control and pressure. This is a really good EU LCS day.
Lets hope Roccat can keep this up the entire season and don't pull an Alternate.
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On February 08 2014 06:12 Doctorbeat wrote:
Now it's time to see whether Alliance's win was a fluke.
It's against Millenium, so even if it was a fluke they should be able to win or at least make it competitive.
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Well this kinda confirms my view that the former Fnatic 7-0 record was a little too good in relation to their performance. They were not that much better.
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On February 08 2014 06:14 Redox wrote:
Well this kinda confirms my view that the former Fnatic 7-0 record was a little too good in relation to their performance. They were not that much better.
It is fnatic after all.They have always been inconsistent so no big deal.
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On February 08 2014 06:13 Fusilero wrote:When he ulted jankos and somehow still missed the Q I actually cried.
I miss his j4. rip j4 :c
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turns out roccat is pretty good and ziggs building mr and taking ignite against kha is pretty bad
edit : also soaz doesn't really seem to know what to play any more
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speaking of esports betting you could get roccat at +237 (3.37) last night
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Deficio pronounces Xaxus the way my old WoW GM pronounced my name.
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On February 08 2014 06:15 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:13 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 06:11 Kiett wrote:
cyanide
please
no more lee
just stop it When he ulted jankos and somehow still missed the Q I actually cried. I miss his j4. rip j4 :c
He needs to bring back aatrox yo
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On February 08 2014 06:14 Redox wrote:
Well this kinda confirms my view that the former Fnatic 7-0 record was a little too good in relation to their performance. They were not that much better.
Hmm....I'm 50/50. Fnatic clearly earned those wins and they are a good team but they weren't really heads above the competition.
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POLAND STRONK
3-way 1st place tie and after this game we will have a 4-way 4th place tie. I wouldn't mind alliance winning
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On February 08 2014 06:15 RouaF wrote:
turns out roccat is pretty good and ziggs building mr and taking ignite against kha is pretty bad
edit : also soaz doesn't really seem to know what to play any more
Peke keeps doing this, yesterday he refused to level his shield as Ori even after he fell behind.
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On February 08 2014 06:14 Redox wrote:
Well this kinda confirms my view that the former Fnatic 7-0 record was a little too good in relation to their performance. They were not that much better.
Fnatic may have been 7-0 but they weren't dominant. Some of those games were close. Kind of obvious they weren't gonna cloud9 this split.
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lmao they didnt let overpow to pick morde
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On February 08 2014 06:15 RouaF wrote:
turns out roccat is pretty good and ziggs building mr and taking ignite against kha is pretty bad
edit : also soaz doesn't really seem to know what to play any more
Well that Soaz TP was really bad and it just got even worse when they got solo killed. He was basically out of the game from those mistakes.
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On February 08 2014 06:22 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:15 RouaF wrote:
turns out roccat is pretty good and ziggs building mr and taking ignite against kha is pretty bad
edit : also soaz doesn't really seem to know what to play any more Well that Soaz TP was really bad and it just got even worse when they got solo killed. He was basically out of the game from those mistakes.
The solo kill was truly bizarre, surely he should know that renekton with a pickaxe (I think), flash and ignite would get him at 200 HP.
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On February 08 2014 06:22 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:15 RouaF wrote:
turns out roccat is pretty good and ziggs building mr and taking ignite against kha is pretty bad
edit : also soaz doesn't really seem to know what to play any more Well that Soaz TP was really bad and it just got even worse when they got solo killed. He was basically out of the game from those mistakes.
The last few games fnatic have seemed a lot more jumpy. They keep trying to force plays instead of just having a gameplan and sticking to it. Yesterday Cyanide tried to force ganks top over and over again, and Yellowstar blew every ability and flash on Thresh and missed everything. Today you have that teleport and a 5 people killing a Kha'zix while losing inhib towers.
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On February 08 2014 06:24 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:22 Numy wrote:On February 08 2014 06:15 RouaF wrote:
turns out roccat is pretty good and ziggs building mr and taking ignite against kha is pretty bad
edit : also soaz doesn't really seem to know what to play any more Well that Soaz TP was really bad and it just got even worse when they got solo killed. He was basically out of the game from those mistakes. The last few games fnatic have seemed a lot more jumpy. They keep trying to force plays instead of just having a gameplan and sticking to it. Yesterday Cyanide tried to force ganks top over and over again, and Yellowstar blew every ability and flash on Thresh and missed everything. Today you have that teleport and a 5 people killing a Kha'zix while losing inhib towers.
To be fair, aranae and edward said that yolostar lagged out when he did that... thing against nyph but yeah I agree fnatic are feeling a bit too eager to make things happen and are just kinda dying for it.
Also seriously xpeke, barrier exists for a reason. Use it.
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Millenium has a tendency to either stomp or lose, even more than Alliance.
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On February 08 2014 06:29 Redox wrote:
Millenium has a tendency to either stomp or lose, even more than Alliance.
I'm convinced Millenium's success entirely depends on how far ahead they can get before Aranae decides to stupidly overextend.
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On February 08 2014 06:21 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:14 Redox wrote:
Well this kinda confirms my view that the former Fnatic 7-0 record was a little too good in relation to their performance. They were not that much better. Fnatic may have been 7-0 but they weren't dominant. Some of those games were close. Kind of obvious they weren't gonna cloud9 this split.
so you mean they're gonna tsm this split?
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On February 08 2014 06:31 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:29 Redox wrote:
Millenium has a tendency to either stomp or lose, even more than Alliance. I'm convinced Millenium's success entirely depends on how far ahead they can get before Aranae decides to stupidly overextend.
Millenium's success is winning before they can throw, creaton/jree/kev1n are basically in a race against time vs kerp/aranae to win.
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Trundle ban seems pretty weird.
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Holy shit Shook is getting Elise?
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On February 08 2014 06:34 bokchoi wrote:
Holy shit Shook is getting Elise?
Apparently...
No more lee sin yay.
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I just want to see wickds malphite
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On February 08 2014 06:34 Numy wrote:
Trundle ban seems pretty weird.
Trundle banning kinda makes sense, his presence as an option limits your top lane draft as mundo/shyvana are both effectively gone as option and seeing as millenium wanted the shyv it was a sensible ban
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Eh Deficio this game's just going to be about the mid lane. If froggen gets to 3 items I don't see Mill winning. Kerp needs to win lane.
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Shook finally got not totally banned?
YISS.
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Alliance's picks feel so much stronger.
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Yeah I also like Alliance picks more. Millenium can still snowball though and their bot seems strong.
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Shook you moron why dont you E
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On February 08 2014 06:43 AsnSensation wrote:
SHOOK ELISE HYPE
SHOOK CONFIRMED CARRIED BY YOUNGBUCK
Oh I get the game plan, get aranae ahead so his throw will be even harder.
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On February 08 2014 06:43 Fusilero wrote:SHOOK CONFIRMED CARRIED BY YOUNGBUCK
Outplayed by Aranreae, ouch.
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Why Froggen didn't move after LB left lane?
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On February 08 2014 06:44 orzeu wrote:
Why Froggen didn't move after LB left lane?
Not like lb did anything.
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ShookEliseV2! Aranea gives Froggen doublebuff though, worth!
e: Damn I can't keep up with this! ShookEliseHypeV3!
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So not banning elise seems to be working LOL
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Vi is such a perfect champion for aranae, completely miss? Lol press R
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On February 08 2014 06:46 Lylat wrote:
BEST JUNGLER EU
In challenger scene jankos got shit on by shook, figure how it changes. Europe is a crazy place.
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All part of Shook's plan - blow chunks the first time he's given Elise, so it's never target banned again...
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On February 08 2014 06:44 orzeu wrote:
Why Froggen didn't move after LB left lane?
Froggen? Leave mid for another destination than wolves or wraiths?
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On February 08 2014 06:46 Fusilero wrote:
Vi is such a perfect champion for aranae, completely miss? Lol press R
Wasn't he one of the first people to start spamming Vi in the jungle last year?
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On February 08 2014 06:48 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:46 Fusilero wrote:
Vi is such a perfect champion for aranae, completely miss? Lol press R Wasn't he one of the first people to start spamming Vi in the jungle last year?
Hyrqbot was the first player to really showcase vi jungle, aranae did bring her back after the nerfs as full tank (Though bengi was the one that made it work)
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Best intervention EU.
Mil decided to go full retard and throw.
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ya whatever Aranea is starting his throw already.
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Shook got his revenge :D
On February 08 2014 06:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Best intervention EU.
Assist, dude.
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So the Aranae throw train starts already. Did he really think he could solo an elise lol
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Wow mill wtf just happened in the last minute
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On February 08 2014 06:50 Nytefish wrote:
Wow mill wtf just happened in the last minute
Millenium being millenium, they should go to NA LCS they'd fit in there
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MILL THROW this game is hilarous
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On February 08 2014 06:47 BrownBear wrote:
All part of Shook's plan - blow chunks the first time he's given Elise, so it's never target banned again...
All planned.
But really so far his deaths have been unfortunate face checks
its cool millennium doing what millennium does
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Sigh Millenium.
Alliance winning by doing basically nothing
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Cyanide,Shook,Cyanide who is the worst jungler?
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Atleast Nyph and Tabzz started playing well.
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Thanks god you can rely on Areneae.
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Mill ahead in the throw war for now.Let's see who will win the title of best throwing arm eu.
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On February 08 2014 06:50 orzeu wrote:
Atleast Nyph and Tabzz started playing well.
Yeah I am very positively surprised by how their lane is going.
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wait what the fuck did wickd just flash INTO kevin? LOL
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On February 08 2014 06:51 Fusilero wrote:
GOD TIER WICKD FLASH.
With old flash he could jump over him :D
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On February 08 2014 06:51 bokchoi wrote:
wait what the fuck did wickd just flash INTO kevin? LOL
He tried flash stun him.
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Wickd with the panic flash - think the pressure of being seen as the weakest ALL member is getting to him?
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this game is worth watching for the lulz. what the fuck is happening lol
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omg these 2 teams are ultra bad today
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Lol Kerp is going to get oneshotted when Froggen gets LB.
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On February 08 2014 06:52 BrownBear wrote:
Wickd with the panic flash - think the pressure of being seen as the weakest ALL member is getting to him?
Good guy shook, be consistently useless to make wickd feel better
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Today has been a jungle highlight reel
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Shook and Wickd testing froggen's back.
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On February 08 2014 06:53 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Today has been a jungle highlight reel
Got Jankos beasting then the comedy that is Shook/Aranae
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Froggen's back must have been surgically enhanced. Holy shit.
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On February 08 2014 06:53 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:52 BrownBear wrote:
Wickd with the panic flash - think the pressure of being seen as the weakest ALL member is getting to him? Good guy shook, be consistently useless to make wickd feel better
Except Wickd was flashing to get the E stun onto Shyv. He should have known that wouldn't have saved his life or gotten him a kill with tower damage, but it was not just a random panic flash.
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On February 08 2014 06:54 BrownBear wrote:
Froggen's back must have been surgically enhanced. Holy shit.
He's been lifting snoopeh and yolopete for years
Besides, alliance is gonna win anyway 4/0 kayle with lich bane already nearly done lol froggen is just gonna 1v5
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On February 08 2014 06:54 BrownBear wrote:
Froggen's back must have been surgically enhanced. Holy shit.
Or maybe Kayle is the most OP shit in LoL atm ? :D No idea how it got through bans.
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Tabzz should just get early Banshee and Alliance will be unstoppable.
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this game is over kayle late game is beyond retarded
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Lol the froggen carrying bs again just because he has a good score. Played far from flawless this game so far.
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I wonder if Froggen would turn back time and stay with his old team if he could.
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Take the lantern Aranae! Jesus.
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On February 08 2014 06:56 TitusVI wrote:
I wonder if Froggen would turn back time and stay with his old team if he could.
I think if Froggen could turn back time he would've kicked Wickd too
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On February 08 2014 06:56 TitusVI wrote:
I wonder if Froggen would turn back time and stay with his old team if he could.
Keeping krepo might have been a good idea but I don't think snoopeh/yolopete would be an improvement.
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This game is ridiculous :D
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Why do bad players pick leblanc? Pick something that doesn't become useless when you get dumpstered in lane pls
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I've never really watched EU LCS for certain commentator reasons, but Deficio is an amazing addition to the Riot roster.
Pretty sure at this point Millenium is just dead because of Froggen lol.
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Just another Araneae game not on Lee Sin
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Elise is retarded as fuck with her %HP damage, why the heck do you try to take a drake against her >_<
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Aranae smited way before elise and why on earth did they even allow Shook to walk up into melee range of the dragon.
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Jinx ult so balanced XD
Lich Bane activated, GG.
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On February 08 2014 06:55 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:54 BrownBear wrote:
Froggen's back must have been surgically enhanced. Holy shit. Or maybe Kayle is the most OP shit in LoL atm ? :D No idea how it got through bans.
Kayle's quite stronk, think it's more that his lane opponent is Kerp playing LeBlanc than anything else though :D
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"Hey I'm gonna DFG you and not cast the rest of my spells so you got the time to receive Kayle's ult, 'k?"
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Junglers are 1/6/4 and 2/4/4 in this game
...solid.
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On February 08 2014 06:59 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 06:55 mr_tolkien wrote:On February 08 2014 06:54 BrownBear wrote:
Froggen's back must have been surgically enhanced. Holy shit. Or maybe Kayle is the most OP shit in LoL atm ? :D No idea how it got through bans. Kayle's quite stronk, think it's more that his lane opponent is Kerp playing LeBlanc than anything else though :D
Kayle currently is ridiculous because she can abuse the best item synergy in game, Nash tooth and Lich Bane. You can't really fail on Kayle outside of ulting like a tryndamere player.
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this is like solo q with a hint of arranged play...not very watchable
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On February 08 2014 07:01 Amethyst21 wrote:
Junglers are 1/6/4 and 2/4/4 in this game
...solid.
This is lucky being a world finalist jungler levels of jungle embarrassment.
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On February 08 2014 07:02 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:01 Amethyst21 wrote:
Junglers are 1/6/4 and 2/4/4 in this game
...solid. This is lucky being a world finalist jungler levels of jungle embarrassment.
People mentioning the ROCCAT-Fnatic game next to this, how were the performances of Jankos and Cyanide?
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On February 08 2014 07:03 Alaric wrote:
Jinx ult balanced o/
This game is making Candypanda's Graves pick look so stupid.
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Shook is feeding for whole team.
I guess, they're ok with it :D
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At first I thought Shook was going for the Maelk award. But then I noticed he had a kill.
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On February 08 2014 07:04 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:02 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 07:01 Amethyst21 wrote:
Junglers are 1/6/4 and 2/4/4 in this game
...solid. This is lucky being a world finalist jungler levels of jungle embarrassment. People mentioning the ROCCAT-Fnatic game next to this, how were the performances of Jankos and Cyanide?
Jankos good, Cyanide bad.
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On February 08 2014 07:04 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:02 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 07:01 Amethyst21 wrote:
Junglers are 1/6/4 and 2/4/4 in this game
...solid. This is lucky being a world finalist jungler levels of jungle embarrassment. People mentioning the ROCCAT-Fnatic game next to this, how were the performances of Jankos and Cyanide?
Jankos played well
Cyanide played terrible
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On February 08 2014 07:02 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:01 Amethyst21 wrote:
Junglers are 1/6/4 and 2/4/4 in this game
...solid. This is lucky being a world finalist jungler levels of jungle embarrassment.
To be fair, even most OGN junglers get reamed by Bengi.
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HAHAAH
Shook baited Araneae so hard with that sidestep from Baron.
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Shook at least redeeming himself in the smite wars a little bit. Araneae looking like he's going to be the goat.
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Gotta feel bad for Creaton and Kevin :/
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"Oh we're 4v5 and they have AoE cc, Jinx and Kayle's ult? Let's go in!"
Aranae you're retarded as fuck sometimes... urgh. If they can't even beat friggin' Alliance, I don't see how they can hope to achieve a good standing this split.
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Did Kayle's Q just fizzle on Creaton there?
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That was such an amazing flash by shook LOL
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that flash repel was nowhere in range.. c'mon shook
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On February 08 2014 07:08 Alaric wrote:
"Oh we're 4v5 and they have AoE cc, Jinx and Kayle's ult? Let's go in!"
Aranae you're retarded as fuck sometimes... urgh. If they can't even beat friggin' Alliance, I don't see how they can hope to achieve a good standing this split.
I think you can remove the sometimes :D Araneae is incredibad outside of lee, but he's not even that good with Lee :/
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Moreover how did A somehow get Kayle/Annie/Elise/Renekton/Jinx? Those are arguably the strongest champions at each of their respective positions.
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wtf is happening...Pantheon is seeing bans?!????!?!
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"Execute." Thresh had half his HP left. "Execute."
They sure have broad definitions for their terms.
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Poll: Recommend Alliance vs Millenium Spring Week 4?Yes (2) 18% No (5) 45% If you have time (4) 36% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alliance vs Millenium Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
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Odd weeks [A] - 0-6.
Even week [A] - 4-0.
#legit
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Welp, new rule of EU LCS: ALL on even weeks is unstoppable.
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On February 08 2014 07:09 Swords wrote:
Moreover how did A somehow get Kayle/Annie/Elise/Renekton/Jinx? Those are arguably the strongest champions at each of their respective positions.
elise/kayle you can argue about
the other 3 are good .. but I would argue thresh is best support as a toplaner probably mundo > Renekton and ads are several on a similar lvl (Lucian, Jinx, Cait)
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I really think Aranae is the worst jungler in LCS, he's bad and even when he get kills early he doesn't snowball and manages to throw somehow.
For the sake of your team pls retire
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On February 08 2014 07:11 JBright wrote:Poll: Recommend Alliance vs Millenium Spring Week 4?Yes (2) 18% No (5) 45% If you have time (4) 36% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alliance vs Millenium Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Needs another option: Watch if you like Jungler fails
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On February 08 2014 07:11 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:11 JBright wrote:Poll: Recommend Alliance vs Millenium Spring Week 4?Yes (2) 18% No (5) 45% If you have time (4) 36% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Alliance vs Millenium Spring Week 4? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Needs another option: Watch if you like Jungler fails
or just simply watch for the lulz
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On February 08 2014 07:11 Lylat wrote:
I really think Aranae is the worst jungler in LCS, he's bad and even when he get kills early he doesn't snowball and manages to throw somehow.
For the sake of your team pls retire
Zuna is worser 5 kills on elise and still 0 impact and dont remember me his kha.
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On February 08 2014 07:11 BrownBear wrote:
Welp, new rule of EU LCS: ALL on even weeks is unstoppable.
That game was Gambit vs Fnatic levels of "brain shutdown" by Millenium in the drafting phase, though. Not like Alliance had anything to do, just don't get steamrolled and you autowin. Even better Aranae and Kerp decided to help them win.
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On February 08 2014 07:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
wtf is happening...Pantheon is seeing bans?!????!?!
one of the few junglers that has very strong early presence and then can pretty much make playing bot into a nightmare once he hits 6, dives well too. With the proper comp he is incredibly annoying to face
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On February 08 2014 07:11 Lylat wrote:
I really think Aranae is the worst jungler in LCS, he's bad and even when he get kills early he doesn't snowball and manages to throw somehow.
For the sake of your team pls retire
We still have to keep in mind he was studying for university though. And apparently passed his exams or whatever.
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On February 08 2014 07:12 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:11 BrownBear wrote:
Welp, new rule of EU LCS: ALL on even weeks is unstoppable. That game was Gambit vs Fnatic levels of "brain shutdown" by Millenium in the drafting phase, though. Not like Alliance had anything to do, just don't get steamrolled and you autowin. Even better Aranae and Kerp decided to help them win.
Still confused by Kerp's thought process most of the time... He seems to keep forgetting he's playing squishies and not top laners at least once per game.
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On February 08 2014 07:11 Ente wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:09 Swords wrote:
Moreover how did A somehow get Kayle/Annie/Elise/Renekton/Jinx? Those are arguably the strongest champions at each of their respective positions. elise/kayle you can argue about the other 3 are good .. but I would argue thresh is best support as a toplaner probably mundo > Renekton and ads are several on a similar lvl (Lucian, Jinx, Cait)
Yea, that's fair with Thresh, but I think Jinx is far above Lucian and Caitlyn. She has to lose lane really really hard to not be relevant, and can pick up kills even if she's losing lane with a few good ults.
Mundo/Renekton are close, but lately Renekton seems to be having a much bigger effect on games - although I might be looking at it through rose-tinted glasses after the last 2 days of Croc domination.
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Froggen's hopes for Allstar alive.
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On February 08 2014 07:11 Lylat wrote:
I really think Aranae is the worst jungler in LCS, he's bad and even when he get kills early he doesn't snowball and manages to throw somehow.
For the sake of your team pls retire
Scip pls :3
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You can vote yes - for the retarded game of lulz, no - cause the game was retarded and if you have time - cause the game was retarded and there were better yoloq streams during the game. :D
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This guy looks like a swamp dweller who really needs a shower
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On February 08 2014 07:13 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
wtf is happening...Pantheon is seeing bans?!????!?! one of the few junglers that has very strong early presence and then can pretty much make playing bot into a nightmare once he hits 6, dives well too. With the proper comp he is incredibly annoying to face
I get why he's seeing pick/bans but it's just amazing that not even a month ago he was considered trash tier.
I, for one, enjoy our new Pantheon overlords.
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On February 08 2014 07:15 Yezzus wrote:
This guy looks like a swamp dweller who really needs a shower
He's what I picture particularly toxic players to look like - which is accurate since he was banned for a year for being an asshole.
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On February 08 2014 07:17 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:13 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 08 2014 07:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
wtf is happening...Pantheon is seeing bans?!????!?! one of the few junglers that has very strong early presence and then can pretty much make playing bot into a nightmare once he hits 6, dives well too. With the proper comp he is incredibly annoying to face I get why he's seeing pick/bans but it's just amazing that not even a month ago he was considered trash tier. I, for one, enjoy our new Pantheon overlords.
The spirit item change made him A LOT stronger.Again people forget about it.
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On February 08 2014 07:17 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:13 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 08 2014 07:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
wtf is happening...Pantheon is seeing bans?!????!?! one of the few junglers that has very strong early presence and then can pretty much make playing bot into a nightmare once he hits 6, dives well too. With the proper comp he is incredibly annoying to face I get why he's seeing pick/bans but it's just amazing that not even a month ago he was considered trash tier. I, for one, enjoy our new Pantheon overlords.
Same a lot of champions now being played.
Pro level LoL is very FOTM based.
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I think Aranae was playing better at the beginning of S3 summer split, back when he didn't think he can be the best jungler EU and just tried to support his carries.
Can we agree that Shook is a non-threat in Alliance? I wonder how well they would play if they got Svenskeren instead. And maybe fredy instead of Wickd. And if Nyph brought Candypanda with him... Scratch that - I wonder how well would SK do if they got Froggen.
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This is painful to watch...stop interviewing socially awkward nerds
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On February 08 2014 07:18 AlterKot wrote:
I think Aranae was playing better at the beginning of S3 summer split, back when he didn't think he can be the best jungler EU and just tried to support his carries.
Can we agree that Shook is a non-threat in Alliance? I wonder how well they would play if they got Svenskeren instead. And maybe fredy instead of Wickd. And if Nyph brought Candypanda with him... Scratch that - I wonder how well would SK do if they got Froggen.
Svenskeren? Srsly? :D
Even hugely underperforming Shook is better than him.
Only shit that Svenskeren can do is dive in every position like he's using speed drugs.
Or play Pantheon, who can survive while you use this kind of drugs.
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I don't remember Shook performing well with Alliance. Svenskeren was fine in past 4 games.
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On February 08 2014 07:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:18 AlterKot wrote:
I think Aranae was playing better at the beginning of S3 summer split, back when he didn't think he can be the best jungler EU and just tried to support his carries.
Can we agree that Shook is a non-threat in Alliance? I wonder how well they would play if they got Svenskeren instead. And maybe fredy instead of Wickd. And if Nyph brought Candypanda with him... Scratch that - I wonder how well would SK do if they got Froggen. Svenskeren? Srsly? :D Even hugely underperforming Shook is better than him. Only shit that Svenskeren can do is dive in every position like he's using speed drugs. Or play Pantheon, who can survive while you use this kind of drugs.
Svenskeren used to be scary good when he was on CW, to be fair.
I wonder how long it's going to take teams to just autoban Thresh against ROCCAT. We need to invent a new royal title to give to VandeR.
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On February 08 2014 07:18 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:17 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 08 2014 07:13 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 08 2014 07:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
wtf is happening...Pantheon is seeing bans?!????!?! one of the few junglers that has very strong early presence and then can pretty much make playing bot into a nightmare once he hits 6, dives well too. With the proper comp he is incredibly annoying to face I get why he's seeing pick/bans but it's just amazing that not even a month ago he was considered trash tier. I, for one, enjoy our new Pantheon overlords. Same a lot of champions now being played. Pro level LoL is very FOTM based.
Eh. Most of the champions being played now have been played with some popularity in the past. Pantheon, on the other hand, has been picked up here and there as a very rare odd pick with very mediocre results, but generally has always been considered trash tier in competive (post ult nerf anyways).
On February 08 2014 07:17 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:17 Ryuu314 wrote:On February 08 2014 07:13 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 08 2014 07:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
wtf is happening...Pantheon is seeing bans?!????!?! one of the few junglers that has very strong early presence and then can pretty much make playing bot into a nightmare once he hits 6, dives well too. With the proper comp he is incredibly annoying to face I get why he's seeing pick/bans but it's just amazing that not even a month ago he was considered trash tier. I, for one, enjoy our new Pantheon overlords. The spirit item change made him A LOT stronger.Again people forget about it.
True. Spirit item change made it so he can actually jungle without needing to hog the blue buff or going oom after 2 camps.
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Is Millenium a French team? Because when they lost there was like 5 different French guys making excuses at once, lol.
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On February 08 2014 07:24 wikid wrote:
Is Millenium a French team? Because when they lost there was like 5 different French guys making excuses at once, lol.
Yes, the orga is French.
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Legit French LoL fans shit on the Millenium organisation, though. Good thing they only lend their name to the roster and have nothing to do with managing them. >_>
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Really? I remember the team saying they chose Millenium because they knew they will get huge french fanbase that way :D
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On February 08 2014 07:23 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 08 2014 07:18 AlterKot wrote:
I think Aranae was playing better at the beginning of S3 summer split, back when he didn't think he can be the best jungler EU and just tried to support his carries.
Can we agree that Shook is a non-threat in Alliance? I wonder how well they would play if they got Svenskeren instead. And maybe fredy instead of Wickd. And if Nyph brought Candypanda with him... Scratch that - I wonder how well would SK do if they got Froggen. Svenskeren? Srsly? :D Even hugely underperforming Shook is better than him. Only shit that Svenskeren can do is dive in every position like he's using speed drugs. Or play Pantheon, who can survive while you use this kind of drugs. Svenskeren used to be scary good when he was on CW, to be fair. I wonder how long it's going to take teams to just autoban Thresh against ROCCAT. We need to invent a new royal title to give to VandeR.
Thresh duke of the principality of Poland
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Much jukes such Febiven.
Will MYM stop C9Eu fairytale? :D
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On February 08 2014 07:37 AlterKot wrote:
Really? I remember the team saying they chose Millenium because they knew they will get huge french fanbase that way :D
Well I said "legit", don't expect too much from French in general either...
Zed almost outplaying Gragas + Lucian was a treat to the eye, too bad he couldn't live.
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On February 08 2014 07:37 AlterKot wrote:
Really? I remember the team saying they chose Millenium because they knew they will get huge french fanbase that way :D
Most people visiting millenium's website are between 12 and 18 years old. Millenium has always been known to be a huge scumbag multigaming organisation throwing money EG style to get shit done.
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Surprise, Jinx ults 4 full-health people, autowin of the teamfight. "Execute" they said. Nope, still more damage than Graves.
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On February 08 2014 07:46 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:37 AlterKot wrote:
Really? I remember the team saying they chose Millenium because they knew they will get huge french fanbase that way :D Well I said "legit", don't expect too much from French in general either... Zed almost outplaying Gragas + Lucian was a treat to the eye, too bad he couldn't live.
On February 08 2014 07:52 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:37 AlterKot wrote:
Really? I remember the team saying they chose Millenium because they knew they will get huge french fanbase that way :D Most people visiting millenium's website are between 12 and 18 years old. Millenium has always been known to be a huge scumbag multigaming organisation throwing money EG style to get shit done.
Where the fuck did you two jackasses come from ? Shitting like this on Millenium fans is absolutely NOT OK. We have one of the most dedicated supporting crew for SC2 on TL (Boucot, Aeromi among many other). And they certainly deserve more respect than this slander. I have been following LoL from afar because the game is mostly boring to me and I am saddened by the bad decisions and bad luck they had but being a fan is about loyalty to the structure despite the numerous saddening attempt to get a legit LoL line-up.
PS : And WTF is this bullshit about [M] being a scumbag organization when it's one of the most beloved independent SC2 tournament organizer in Europe?!
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On February 08 2014 08:09 Alaric wrote:
Surprise, Jinx ults 4 full-health people, autowin of the teamfight. "Execute" they said. Nope, still more damage than Graves.
Full hp execute :D
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Millenium has done a bunch of dubious stuff, notably regarding ad, money-grabs, embedding 1px-wide streams on their site, etc. to create fake traffic and this kind of thing.
The management of their "original" LoL team left a lot of people perplex too, and the way it didn't lead anywhere (I mean, apart from the roster being B-tier in itself) didn't surprise many people because of how poor said management was.
Of course, it's not only Millenium. The content produced by French community sites is on average fairly low (although it's still not Mobafire-level and I'll admit that Millenium did improve, it's still not there), and because of the young age of a large part of the French community, and generally low proficiency in English, that's all they have/are able to access. The lack of competition doesn't really put pressure on sites like Millenium or Eclypsia to improve their content, and it shows, be it in guides, analysis, or casting.
It can be good to introduce people to the game (although the slew of direct anglicisms actually plays against that) and generally be casual, and I guess it's the "fault" of the French community for not asking for more/involving themselves more as well, but it's definitely not enough, and I "resent" the people in charge of all this not aiming at providing better/more insightful content.
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Jinx is still as utterly retarded as ever.
Meanwhile, Zed survived with less than 20 HP earlier, and almost survived his first death because of the level up.
This is disgusting. I can't even cheer, it's just... Jinx being dumb as fuck. She's Riven-levels of braindead broken.
And now 20 HP Jinx. Too much luck not to shake my head.
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Did not expect jungle Gragas to walk out of facechecking into Lucian/Zyra with a kill on Lucian, hue.
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So will C9 Eu be allowed to partcipate in LCS qualfiers if they replace their underage players, or not at all?
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On February 08 2014 08:57 Redox wrote:
So will C9 Eu be allowed to partcipate in LCS qualfiers if they replace their underage players, or not at all?
Ofc like always. But they're not in LCS qualifiers yet.
Same with NiP and Amin.
Dunno, C9Eu without k0u and NiP without Amin right now won't be able to compete even with Millenium.
Let's wait 3 months.
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On February 08 2014 08:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 08:57 Redox wrote:
So will C9 Eu be allowed to partcipate in LCS qualfiers if they replace their underage players, or not at all? Ofc like always. But they're not in LCS qualifiers yet. Same with NiP and Amin. Dunno, C9Eu without k0u and NiP without Amin right now won't be able to compete even with Millenium. Let's wait 3 months.
Well at least it is pretty sure that they get into the top 6 now, which then play against each other.
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On February 08 2014 08:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 08:57 Redox wrote:
So will C9 Eu be allowed to partcipate in LCS qualfiers if they replace their underage players, or not at all? Ofc like always. But they're not in LCS qualifiers yet. Same with NiP and Amin. Dunno, C9Eu without k0u and NiP without Amin right now won't be able to compete even with Millenium. Let's wait 3 months.
C9EU without k0u could happen if the jungler is suitable enough, their lanes are solid enough. NiP are gonna get dumpstered without amin if they keep on this way.
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On February 08 2014 09:06 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 08:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 08 2014 08:57 Redox wrote:
So will C9 Eu be allowed to partcipate in LCS qualfiers if they replace their underage players, or not at all? Ofc like always. But they're not in LCS qualifiers yet. Same with NiP and Amin. Dunno, C9Eu without k0u and NiP without Amin right now won't be able to compete even with Millenium. Let's wait 3 months. C9EU without k0u could happen if the jungler is suitable enough, their lanes are solid enough. NiP are gonna get dumpstered without amin if they keep on this way.
What? NiP have better laners the C9EU.
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On February 08 2014 09:02 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 08:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 08 2014 08:57 Redox wrote:
So will C9 Eu be allowed to partcipate in LCS qualfiers if they replace their underage players, or not at all? Ofc like always. But they're not in LCS qualifiers yet. Same with NiP and Amin. Dunno, C9Eu without k0u and NiP without Amin right now won't be able to compete even with Millenium. Let's wait 3 months. Well at least it is pretty sure that they get into the top 6 now, which then play against each other.
Ye, counted a bit, they're in top-6 guaranteed now.
But still, there is NiP, there is C9EU and there is MYM.
Probably, SKP, Ocelote's squad and someone else can show up in Challenger Series #2, but right now i highly expect all LCS teams to survive except SHC.
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On February 08 2014 09:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 09:02 Redox wrote:On February 08 2014 08:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 08 2014 08:57 Redox wrote:
So will C9 Eu be allowed to partcipate in LCS qualfiers if they replace their underage players, or not at all? Ofc like always. But they're not in LCS qualifiers yet. Same with NiP and Amin. Dunno, C9Eu without k0u and NiP without Amin right now won't be able to compete even with Millenium. Let's wait 3 months. Well at least it is pretty sure that they get into the top 6 now, which then play against each other. Ye, counted a bit, they're in top-6 guaranteed now. But still, there is NiP, there is C9EU and there is MYM. Probably, SKP, Ocelote's squad and someone else can show up in Challenger Series #2, but right now i highly expect all LCS teams to survive except SHC.
SKP > Ocelote World imo.
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On February 08 2014 09:09 orzeu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 09:06 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 08:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 08 2014 08:57 Redox wrote:
So will C9 Eu be allowed to partcipate in LCS qualfiers if they replace their underage players, or not at all? Ofc like always. But they're not in LCS qualifiers yet. Same with NiP and Amin. Dunno, C9Eu without k0u and NiP without Amin right now won't be able to compete even with Millenium. Let's wait 3 months. C9EU without k0u could happen if the jungler is suitable enough, their lanes are solid enough. NiP are gonna get dumpstered without amin if they keep on this way. What? NiP have better laners the C9EU.
Kidding? Feb1ven is head above nukeduck right now and Odoamne with Zorozero are on par.
Freeze and mithy are slightly better probably than Hjarnan and Voidle, but if nukeduck gonna play like he is playing now next week, even Amin won't save him from Febiven and k0u.
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On February 08 2014 09:12 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 09:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 08 2014 09:02 Redox wrote:On February 08 2014 08:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 08 2014 08:57 Redox wrote:
So will C9 Eu be allowed to partcipate in LCS qualfiers if they replace their underage players, or not at all? Ofc like always. But they're not in LCS qualifiers yet. Same with NiP and Amin. Dunno, C9Eu without k0u and NiP without Amin right now won't be able to compete even with Millenium. Let's wait 3 months. Well at least it is pretty sure that they get into the top 6 now, which then play against each other. Ye, counted a bit, they're in top-6 guaranteed now. But still, there is NiP, there is C9EU and there is MYM. Probably, SKP, Ocelote's squad and someone else can show up in Challenger Series #2, but right now i highly expect all LCS teams to survive except SHC. SKP > Ocelote World imo.
Not only you think so :D
SKP are 1-0 ahead of Ocelote World, so i guess it's true right now.
I really want exileh to succeed but they will need not to draw NiP/C9EU/MYM next series in order to grab nuff points for entering playoffs.
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On February 08 2014 09:13 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 09:09 orzeu wrote:On February 08 2014 09:06 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 08:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 08 2014 08:57 Redox wrote:
So will C9 Eu be allowed to partcipate in LCS qualfiers if they replace their underage players, or not at all? Ofc like always. But they're not in LCS qualifiers yet. Same with NiP and Amin. Dunno, C9Eu without k0u and NiP without Amin right now won't be able to compete even with Millenium. Let's wait 3 months. C9EU without k0u could happen if the jungler is suitable enough, their lanes are solid enough. NiP are gonna get dumpstered without amin if they keep on this way. What? NiP have better laners the C9EU. Kidding? Feb1ven is head above nukeduck right now and Odoamne with Zorozero are on par. Freeze and mithy are slightly better probably than Hjarnan and Voidle, but if nukeduck gonna play like he is playing now next week, even Amin won't save him from Febiven and k0u.
These are some pretty bold statements. And not supported by all too much.
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On February 08 2014 09:47 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 09:13 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 08 2014 09:09 orzeu wrote:On February 08 2014 09:06 Fusilero wrote:On February 08 2014 08:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On February 08 2014 08:57 Redox wrote:
So will C9 Eu be allowed to partcipate in LCS qualfiers if they replace their underage players, or not at all? Ofc like always. But they're not in LCS qualifiers yet. Same with NiP and Amin. Dunno, C9Eu without k0u and NiP without Amin right now won't be able to compete even with Millenium. Let's wait 3 months. C9EU without k0u could happen if the jungler is suitable enough, their lanes are solid enough. NiP are gonna get dumpstered without amin if they keep on this way. What? NiP have better laners the C9EU. Kidding? Feb1ven is head above nukeduck right now and Odoamne with Zorozero are on par. Freeze and mithy are slightly better probably than Hjarnan and Voidle, but if nukeduck gonna play like he is playing now next week, even Amin won't save him from Febiven and k0u. These are some pretty bold statements. And not supported by all too much.
You're not watching Challenger Series then.
Saying that C9Eu laners suck in comparison to NiP's is definition of statement that doesn't have any support.
NiP can perform against TTD, yes.
Cloud9 Eclypse is team which have best chance to LCS, it's not TTD.
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I would actually be less suprised by Millenium and Alliance leaving the LCS than SHC.
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so how did fnatic lose again? tl:dw , small summary pls.
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On February 08 2014 11:59 justiceknight wrote:
so how did fnatic lose again? tl:dw , small summary pls.
Roccat dominated whole game, Cyanide again was useless on Lee Sin, Vander got Thresh.
Ah, and sOAZ was outplayed by Xaxus as well.
That's all.
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Fnatic should ban Cyanide from Lee Sin, it ain't working.
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On February 08 2014 08:18 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:46 Alaric wrote:On February 08 2014 07:37 AlterKot wrote:
Really? I remember the team saying they chose Millenium because they knew they will get huge french fanbase that way :D Well I said "legit", don't expect too much from French in general either... Zed almost outplaying Gragas + Lucian was a treat to the eye, too bad he couldn't live. Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 07:52 RouaF wrote:On February 08 2014 07:37 AlterKot wrote:
Really? I remember the team saying they chose Millenium because they knew they will get huge french fanbase that way :D Most people visiting millenium's website are between 12 and 18 years old. Millenium has always been known to be a huge scumbag multigaming organisation throwing money EG style to get shit done. Where the fuck did you two jackasses come from ? Shitting like this on Millenium fans is absolutely NOT OK. We have one of the most dedicated supporting crew for SC2 on TL (Boucot, Aeromi among many other). And they certainly deserve more respect than this slander. I have been following LoL from afar because the game is mostly boring to me and I am saddened by the bad decisions and bad luck they had but being a fan is about loyalty to the structure despite the numerous saddening attempt to get a legit LoL line-up. PS : And WTF is this bullshit about [M] being a scumbag organization when it's one of the most beloved independent SC2 tournament organizer in Europe?!
You're new to the scene, aren't you ? I'm guessing you came around sc2. Their sc2 squad was well managed mostly because they were clever enough to hire Llwellys who is a talented, nice guy. They also have Bjoran who is serious and passionate about what he does. They are not, however, the head of the organisation (or at least weren't).
And before calling me a jackass who came out of nowhere you should probably check your facts. Googling my nickname should be enough. About [M]'s organisation as a whole and their LoL squad Alaric already explained some stuff but if you had known them from the WoW era and from when they started being a multi-gaming organisation (they were just an MMO guild back then) you'd understand my point of view . I obviously won't go into details as I'd have to write an entire novel.
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