EPTOn September 08 2013 20:50 Fionn wrote:
cool and faker just want to troll reginald.
cool and faker just want to troll reginald.
most likely situation tbh
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
most likely situation tbh | ||
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Kavas
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
If you get directly into Ro8, you get a week off, don't get to test yourself against the other regions, and then get thrown into a Bo3 against more than likely SKT/Ozone/Royal-OMG/Fnatic-Gambit-TSM-Vulcun. On the other hand, if you go through groups, you get Sword, the Bears, Cloud 9, or the other Chinese team. The added experience of playing those 8 games against the rest of the world and then an "easier" draw in the quarterfinals could be beneficial. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On September 08 2013 20:56 Itsmedudeman wrote: Jesus. That escalated quickly. No one capable of controlling fizz. Just destroyed the adcs. Funny because he never managed to snipe either of the ADCs. Ezreal and Cait just couldn't do anything when there's no frontline. Mundo can tank but can't really peel off the J4, aatrox and fizz diving like madmen. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
Royal has a very unique playstyle and draft, and while others will be able to research this to some extent, I'm sure playing against it in person will be a whole other beast. However, they can also be very shaky at times - enough so that I wouldn't be confident in guaranteeing their advance from groupstages in a group with Ozone and co. I feel they have the unique skillset to make a deeper run against some of the better teams - a real potential to win vs some of the top Korean teams, for example - that I think OMG will lack from the get go. On the other hand, OMG has a very steady playstyle and decision making that should net them easy wins versus less coordinated opponents. I haven't watched enough of Lemondogs and co to be able to gauge this, but I would guess that the western scene is a little less stellar on the coordination issue. On the other hand, on just pure execution and the razor sharp playstyle of Ozone and the other Korean teams, I feel OMG would really benefit from an early loss to Ozone in the groups to be able to experience first hand what they will need to play against in the upper rounds. tldr; i think omg losing this would be best for china to make a deeper run. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On September 08 2013 20:55 Fionn wrote: to be honest, getting 2nd is probably better long-term if you're confident in making out of groups. If you get directly into Ro8, you get a week off, don't get to test yourself against the other regions, and then get thrown into a Bo3 against more than likely SKT/Ozone/Royal-OMG/Fnatic-Gambit-TSM-Vulcun. On the other hand, if you go through groups, you get Sword, the Bears, Cloud 9, or the other Chinese team. The added experience of playing those 8 games against the rest of the world and then an "easier" draw in the quarterfinals could be beneficial. that arrogance will be their downfall | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
I feel bad for GamingGear. Apparently they were losing to European Challenger teams in practice. Now you get to play Faker and Cool along with the longstanding North American empire and Europe's regular season winners. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
I still don't think OMG losing this spells good news. OMG was supposed to be the c9 of china but they're now showing a lack of fortitude as the pressure builds and it gets into the later stages of playoffs. This isn't the first time that's happened either. I give the chinese scene a lot of respect considering the WE era and the growth of LoL in China this past year, but without adapting their play and learning from other regions it's going to be hard to build consistency without relying simply on outlaning their opponents. Even the Koreans change their play based on what happens overseas and try new things while playing optimally. China's greatest weakness is their isolation after the koreans came up with the optimal meta. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 08 2013 21:03 Fionn wrote: Group A is SKT, TSM, Lemondogs, and GamingGear. I feel bad for GamingGear. Apparently they were losing to European Challenger teams in practice. Now you get to play Faker and Cool along with the longstanding North American empire and Europe's regular season winners. How come GG.eu got to take part in the international qualifiers? Why should teams that can't make it to their own regions premier tournament be allowed to participate? | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9246 Posts
On September 08 2013 20:55 Fionn wrote: to be honest, getting 2nd is probably better long-term if you're confident in making out of groups. If you get directly into Ro8, you get a week off, don't get to test yourself against the other regions, and then get thrown into a Bo3 against more than likely SKT/Ozone/Royal-OMG/Fnatic-Gambit-TSM-Vulcun. On the other hand, if you go through groups, you get Sword, the Bears, Cloud 9, or the other Chinese team. The added experience of playing those 8 games against the rest of the world and then an "easier" draw in the quarterfinals could be beneficial. Last season the teams with byes to the quarters didn't seem to be off at all, and they were scrimming eachother before their official matches. But this year, out of the 4 teams with byes only Sword has any international experience so that may be an issue. | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On September 08 2013 21:05 Itsmedudeman wrote: How come GG.eu got to take part in the international qualifiers? Why should teams that can't make it to their own regions premier tournament be allowed to participate? The wild card tournament was open to teams from all the new servers that Riot opened this year. With Russia getting their own server, they were allowed to participate in that tournament, qualify from that, and then go on to win the wild card slot. It was a way to showcase and give a new region a huge opportunity to showcase itself against the world's best, but it just turned out to give another European team a slot into the tournament. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
That is just nonsense. Everybody would love to skip the group stage. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On September 08 2013 21:09 Redox wrote: That is just nonsense. Everybody would love to skip the group stage. Yeah, I don't think they're throwing on purpose, but getting 2nd isn't the worst thing. It's probably better for a team if they feel that they can get 1st or 2nd in their group. But yeah, anyone would want a guarantee $50,000 and a week of hanging out in Los Angeles while the other teams have to work their asses off and play a ton of games. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 08 2013 21:08 Fionn wrote: The wild card tournament was open to teams from all the new servers that Riot opened this year. With Russia getting their own server, they were allowed to participate in that tournament, qualify from that, and then go on to win the wild card slot. It was a way to showcase and give a new region a huge opportunity to showcase itself against the world's best, but it just turned out to give another European team a slot into the tournament. So is Gambit not considered part of the Russian/CIS region? | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Fionn
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9246 Posts
On September 08 2013 21:11 Itsmedudeman wrote: So is Gambit not considered part of the Russian/CIS region? They weren't eligible due to being in LCS | ||
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