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[RIOT] Season 3 NA LCS Qualifiers - Page 75
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Yes, these games won't be OGN level. Watch how you express yourself when these players make poor plays. ~Neo 11.01.13 13:05PST | ||
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Chrispy
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Woony
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:44 Woony wrote: I hope I don't incite something here but I've never seen any of these teams play, except for curse. How's the level of these tier two NA teams on a international scale? I know CLG/Dig/TSM always have been fairly confident against these teams but maybe things have changed. NA is behind EU/KR in terms of skill overall, the top teams can compete (with EU at least) but I'd say the overall talent is less. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:44 Woony wrote: I hope I don't incite something here but I've never seen any of these teams play, except for curse. How's the level of these tier two NA teams on a international scale? I know CLG/Dig/TSM always have been fairly confident against these teams but maybe things have changed. Kinda the same. Some teams definitely show a lot of potential though. | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
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DragoonTT
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On January 13 2013 05:44 Woony wrote: I hope I don't incite something here but I've never seen any of these teams play, except for curse. How's the level of these tier two NA teams on a international scale? I know CLG/Dig/TSM always have been fairly confident against these teams but maybe things have changed. CLG on a good day is international tier 2. TSM, Dig, Curse international tier 3. A few weeks ago I'd also have sorted FeaR, MP, C9 and GGU in there, but due to all that roster changing and how the games at the Qualifier went up to now, they wouldn't even make international tier 3 for me. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:46 Kenpark wrote: I really hate when Casters keep on talking about "freezing" the lane. There is no such thing in LoL without deny. You don't need to deny to freeze lane if there is enough creep pressure toward your side. On January 13 2013 05:47 DragoonTT wrote: CLG on a good day is international tier 2. TSM, Dig, Curse international tier 3. A few weeks ago I'd also have sorted FeaR, MP, C9 and GGU in there, but due to all that roster changing and how the games at the Qualifier went up to now, they wouldn't even make international tier 3 for me. What international teams do you put in tier 1/2? Because Curse is definitively worse than WE.i-Rocks/now PE, and I would consider them a tier 3 team by international standards. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:46 Kenpark wrote: I really hate when Casters keep on talking about "freezing" the lane. There is no such thing in LoL without deny. Yes there is. Sure not to the extend as in Dota but in LoL terms there is a tactic called freezing. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:44 Woony wrote: I hope I don't incite something here but I've never seen any of these teams play, except for curse. How's the level of these tier two NA teams on a international scale? I know CLG/Dig/TSM always have been fairly confident against these teams but maybe things have changed. I'd rank this for NA teams for right now. CLG~Curse~TSM~Dig in skill level. Fear is close behind, then everyone else is slightly a step behind. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:48 wei2coolman wrote: I'd rank this for NA teams for right now. CLG~Curse~TSM~Dig in skill level. Fear is close behind, then everyone else is slightly a step behind. CLG is ahead of the other 3. Dig is a bit of a unknown, considering how little we have seen of them lately. Crs/TSM are definitely weaker than CLG. As in they lose more often vs top tier teams than CLG. MP tilting  A shame really, they were playing pretty good in g1. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:50 Doctorbeat wrote: CLG is ahead of the other 3. Dig is a bit of a unknown, considering how little we have seen of them lately. Crs/TSM are definitely weaker than CLG. As in they lose more often vs top tier teams than CLG. MP tilting A shame really, they were playing pretty good in g1. CLG is only ahead of the other 3, if we were talking about fighting international team, but if they were to play among themselves, i'd say they'd take quite a few games off of each other. Also, i'm actually really happy how much NA teams have seemed to improved overall, they're picking up a lot more new talent now. Give it a year, and I'd say some NA teams can start competing with top tier KR team. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:50 Doctorbeat wrote: CLG is ahead of the other 3. Dig is a bit of a unknown, considering how little we have seen of them lately. Crs/TSM are definitely weaker than CLG. As in they lose more often vs top tier teams than CLG. MP tilting A shame really, they were playing pretty good in g1. Haven't seen Dig play with Kiwi yet, one of these days his video card won't explode and we'll get to see him play. | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:47 HazMat wrote: Yes there is. Sure not to the extend as in Dota but in LoL terms there is a tactic called freezing. Then how could Graves be able to freeze the lane in that situation ? He was really close to tower range and even if he didnt use aoe the tower would have pushed the lane around, I dont get it. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Somehow I think Cris disagrees. | ||
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DragoonTT
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On January 13 2013 05:47 TheYango wrote: What international teams do you put in tier 1/2? Because Curse is definitively worse than WE.i-Rocks/now PE, and I would consider them a tier 3 team by international standards. Tier 1, for me: WE, Azubu Frost, KT B, Azubu Blaze Tier 2 (pretty wide area of skill): most OGN teams plus SKT T1, M5, ex-CLG.EU, CLG.NA on a good day. I'm not too informed about the Chinese teams - PE, iG, Royal Club could probably fit in here as well Tier 3: Curse, TSM, Dig, lower tier of OGN teams (GSG, MVP Blue, Team OP in current form etc.), second tier of european teams (MYM, Millenium, perhaps SK and alternate on a good day), possibly SGS and SJ Not sure about TPA/TPS - both teams have incredible potential. Also, I can't (both from lack of knowledge about new AD carry and as a fan) objetively rate fnatic. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:54 Kenpark wrote: Then how could Graves be able to freeze the lane in that situation ? He was really close to tower range and even if he didnt use aoe the tower would have pushed the lane around, I dont get it. If that's the case it was probably just Riv3 making a mistake, as expected, nothing to see here move along. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 13 2013 05:56 MoonBear wrote: "You don't do a whole lot as a superfarmed Shen." Somehow I think Cris disagrees. Well, walls don't really do much >.> | ||
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Louuster
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