EPT[IPL] IPL5 Discussion - Page 249
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qanik
Denmark1899 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 02 2012 09:04 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: So, WE v Fnatic. Who do you guys think will come out on top? It depends on preparation. Both teams are strong, but both have also demonstrated a spectacular ability to come to games well-prepared to draft against their opponents. It will come down to investigation, smart drafts, and smarter play. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
2 of my favorite teams. Nyjacky you got this, 2qt, and carry! | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
And why were clg so scared to push / fight 4v4 when rumble went to stop rengar? Kog at that point could have easily cleaned up a 4v4 without rengar diving him | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On December 02 2012 09:04 Redox wrote: Where did I say that WE didnt play that right? They did just what they had to. And I still dislike strategies that only rely on backdooring, just like many of the strats CLG.na pulled. And it is just annoying when one team can never end the game even if they win multiple team fights because they just cant leave their base. And yes, Rengar is a bullshit hero. WE winning with him doesnt change that. They couldn't end after the late game team fights because they lost their whole base earlier in the game. If being down to a single turret left alive didn't but you severely behind, everyone would just turtle for late game and try to win that one team fight and win the game. Rengar might be bullshit, but splitpushing is good for the game as a whole. | ||
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DragoonTT
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 02 2012 09:04 Redox wrote: Where did I say that WE didnt play that right? They did just what they had to. And I still dislike strategies that only rely on backdooring, just like many of the strats CLG.na pulled. And it is just annoying when one team can never end the game even if they win multiple team fights because they just cant leave their base. And yes, Rengar is a bullshit hero. WE winning with him doesnt change that. Splitpushing/Backdooring is a perfectly legitimate strat. It's annoying to play against, but it definitely can be beat. Besides, if it wasn't for splitpushing/backdoor then there is literally no way to win against teams with hypercarries or massive aoe comps past a certain point. I can also argue that CLG.eu turtle strat is equally annoying. CLG.eu definitely could've won that. They were able to keep Caomei at bay for so long with just Wickd defending. They ended up losing that because they botched the last fight with Froggen diving in 1v4 and Yellowpete not getting sufficient peeling which let Ghostblade Rengar wreck him. Up until then it was anyone's game. But yea...Rengar is kinda bullshit champ. EDIT: 5k :O | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
edit: enough whining from me, switching to stream 2  Time to watch curse roflstomp TPA eazy. | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On December 02 2012 09:06 qanik wrote: Now I'm almost certain that clg eu lost cause kogmaw didn't reach hypercarry status. First off, he didn't have nunu for speed buff, and then he sold berserkers, and THEN he didn't have zeke from support. He simply didn't have the attack speed to kill rengar. I don't know if you're sarcastic? Rengar had 350 armor with thornmail and just jumped on Kog'Maw. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 02 2012 08:55 nafta wrote: Don't get this ap zyra stuff.If he built wota/zeke/shurelya their teamfights would've been so much stronger. I totally agree. Because CLG did not have Shurelya, they weren't able to engage a lot of the fights in mid game. The Zhonya build for Krepo was really questionable, too. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On December 02 2012 09:06 TheYango wrote: It depends on preparation. Both teams are strong, but both have also demonstrated a spectacular ability to come to games well-prepared to draft against their opponents. It will come down to investigation, smart drafts, and smarter play. But who do you think will have the better preparation then? | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Super strong opponents waiting for both clg teams in the losers bracket. Everyone Banning Anivia+Orianna against TPA now after seeing Fnatic making it work. Gogo Curse make the biggest upset happen. | ||
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skykh
3006 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On December 02 2012 09:08 Ryuu314 wrote: Splitpushing/Backdooring is a perfectly legitimate strat. It's annoying to play against, but it definitely can be beat. Besides, if it wasn't for splitpushing/backdoor then there is literally no way to win against teams with hypercarries or massive aoe comps past a certain point. I can also argue that CLG.eu turtle strat is equally annoying. CLG.eu definitely could've won that. They were able to keep Caomei at bay for so long with just Wickd defending. They ended up losing that because they botched the last fight with Froggen diving in 1v4 and Yellowpete not getting sufficient peeling which let Ghostblade Rengar wreck him. Up until then it was anyone's game. But yea...Rengar is kinda bullshit champ. Happy 5k ;o | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 02 2012 09:07 fishinguy wrote: When ez and rengar went off to try and backdoor, and all of clg was at the entrance of the base, couldnt they have pushed on for the win? I mean i think ez was at blue at that point and any kind of flash ult from snupeh could have won them the game... Ori and Cho can throw their skills from longer range than an Amumu Flash-ult. Misaya and Clearlove aren't stupid enough to stand in range of that, and their reactions are good enough not to get hit by a long-shot Bandage Toss, especially since they were planning on giving up the inhib. | ||
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
On December 02 2012 09:07 fishinguy wrote: When ez and rengar went off to try and backdoor, and all of clg was at the entrance of the base, couldnt they have pushed on for the win? I mean i think ez was at blue at that point and any kind of flash ult from snupeh could have won them the game... Same thought. I thought multiple times that clg.eu should just push in, because they were closer and more numerous, but i guess they know it better. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 02 2012 09:08 Sufficiency wrote: I totally agree. Because CLG did not have Shurelya, they weren't able to engage a lot of the fights in mid game. The Zhonya build for Krepo was really questionable, too. I think Shurelias would've been helpful, but Zhonyas was a great pickup. WE lost many engagements since they blew so much stuff on Krepo only to have Krepo dodge a ton of their damage with Zhonyas. | ||
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