EPT[S2] World Championships Discussion - Page 609
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Kipsate
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On October 10 2012 01:11 BlueSpace wrote: Yeah lets move on. Who thinks benefits more from a fresh Bo3, WE or CLG.eu. I would say CLG.eu because I had the feeling that they were getting better and better in drawing out the games to a point where they could teamfight and beat WE. Without disconnects I think WE would have just won the first two games but now I think CLG.eu is slightly favored. I feel WE is slightly better off if they can pick a midlate-game comp(yes I know this is against CLG.EU). Almost purely mechanics, but WX is hitting probably 10-15% CS more than yellowpete so there are windows where WX has 1/2/3 big items and yellowpete doesn't. Mid and top have been fairly even, but Snoopeh also isn't really a farming jungler, so as a result CLG enters midgame quite behind and playing catchup. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
Way to make me feel bad for being late to the party! Anyway as Yango said all about if WE can prepare another plan. I feel like CLG doesn't seem to like plans other than give wicked and froggen while making pete have nothing so he gets shat on for trying to get something plan so it feels like it's WEs game to win/lose and not really CLGs but I could have the wrong impression. | ||
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Honestly tho, Oddone said in an interview that they practiced all season long for this. And then in another interview he was crying that "this lvl1 tactic was all we had prepared" This was a bit sad on TSM's side. edit* Give them a rematch BO9 and they'd still defeat TSM 0-5 AF ez. And Riot could've easily put up a cover above their turning stage so it blocks both the annoying lights (on player's monitors) as well as the possibility to glance over to check map. And turn the stage so their background actually blocks the bigscreen eitherway. Riot did not properly prevent fraud/cheat. Totally their bad for letting such controversies rise up | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On October 10 2012 01:23 Amui wrote: I feel WE is slightly better off if they can pick a midlate-game comp(yes I know this is against CLG.EU). Almost purely mechanics, but WX is hitting probably 10-15% CS more than yellowpete so there are windows where WX has 1/2/3 big items and yellowpete doesn't. Mid and top have been fairly even, but Snoopeh also isn't really a farming jungler, so as a result CLG enters midgame quite behind and playing catchup. What they need to do is ban the easy turtle heroes like Karthus so they can actually engage. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 10 2012 01:21 Numy wrote: It seemed like the Blitz ban was kind of huge. In addition to being one of fzzf's signature heroes, it's also generally a good pick against the way CLG.Eu likes to play. The grab threat significantly affects the dynamic of ward wars, and one person getting grabbed without Flash up basically is instantly an opportunity for high ground or Baron, which makes it much harder for CLG.Eu to turtle like they do. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On October 10 2012 00:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Along with a bunch of team owners confirming that it was under discussion and they shat on it forcing Riot to not go through with it. The only teams that actually said it was true were complexity and EG, two brand with no league of legend teams. It's all bullshit, what was true was that the contract specified that the team where not supposed to have any B teams. Also Wickd said in his AMA that WE were up early in the morning to practice, which is why CLG.EU decided to drag game a lot, because they knew they were getting really tired and frustrated from the internet problem, while CLG.eu singed and talked to keep a good team cohesion. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On October 10 2012 02:12 Numy wrote: I don't think you should believe everything someone says in an AMA. I doubt any team would consciously make the decision to throw away an advantage by not finishing a game and instead stall it out because the other team "was getting tired and frustrated". If they won that game none of this would have been an issue(well some of it would have been at least). You're so biased it's ridiculous. So basically CLG had no plans, and if they say so in their AMA, they must be lying, because the only plan they have is "giving all to wickd and froggen and letting yellowpete getting shat on". | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 10 2012 02:12 Numy wrote: I don't think you should believe everything someone says in an AMA. I doubt any team would consciously make the decision to throw away an advantage by not finishing a game and instead stall it out because the other team "was getting tired and frustrated". If they won that game none of this would have been an issue(well some of it would have been at least). Some tennis players do this, knowing that they can physically exhaust the opponent. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility imo. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On October 10 2012 02:12 Numy wrote: I don't think you should believe everything someone says in an AMA. I doubt any team would consciously make the decision to throw away an advantage by not finishing a game and instead stall it out because the other team "was getting tired and frustrated". If they won that game none of this would have been an issue(well some of it would have been at least). I think they stalled because they had the feeling that they were getting further and further ahead. CLG.eu is renowned for being patient, so if they feel the other team is getting tired, they will wait until the opponent makes a clear mistake they can capitalize on. CLG.eu is not a racing car, they are like a family van. Safety first... | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 10 2012 02:20 wei2coolman wrote: Some tennis players do this, knowing that they can physically exhaust the opponent. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility imo. Ye but this is a million dollar tournament for people who aren't used to this kind of pressure. I don't know if CLG had the nerves and clear thinking to actually do something like that I'd be more than surprised. It just looked like they were afraid of committing a mistake so rather wanted WE to commit a mistake by doing a bad engagement. On October 10 2012 02:16 WhiteDog wrote: You're so biased it's ridiculous. So basically CLG had no plans, and if they say so in their AMA, they must be lying, because the only plan they have is "giving all to wickd and froggen and letting yellowpete getting shat on". Yes I am biased. That comment was because I'm tired of people shitting on pete for being behind WEs carry while his team gives him absolutely no room to get ahead. Sure his laning phase wasn't great but you could see how hard he was trying to get something and as a result he got caught out a few times. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 10 2012 02:24 Numy wrote: Yes I am biased. That comment was because I'm tired of people shitting on pete for being behind WEs carry while his team gives him absolutely no room to get ahead. Sure his laning phase wasn't great but you could see how hard he was trying to get something and as a result he got caught out a few times. Honestly, CLG.Eu's farm priority was made blatantly clear in the first game when Pete was left to push back the super creeps mid while Froggen bounced back and forth farming both sidelanes, rather than the other way round. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On October 10 2012 01:28 Sableyeah wrote: Spoilering because this might have been discussed + Show Spoiler + Honestly tho, Oddone said in an interview that they practiced all season long for this. And then in another interview he was crying that "this lvl1 tactic was all we had prepared" This was a bit sad on TSM's side. TOO said that they prepared it and that it potentially could've changed things. he said they might have just gotten blown up anyway. but they can't and won't ever know. this is just like how everyone dumps on Chauster because he said they prepared blue side strats and they didn't get one and they tried to adapt it to purple and failed miserably. but it doesn't matter, just dump on him and go "lolol CLG only prepared for one side of the map." it's not about defending TSM or CLG... it's just that the lack of listening comprehension and bandwagoning is embarrassing. anyway with all that said, they have to fit in a potential 9 matches starting at 5pm tomorrow? hmm good luck with that, haha. | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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