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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
sihyunie
Profile Joined June 2008
United States108 Posts
October 05 2012 14:12 GMT
#4421
TPA lost pretty convincingly when they played various Korean teams in Battle Royal. They even lost to MVP White, which is currently considered to be not as good as Azubu or Najin teams.
iG was on a roll in Battle Royal until they lost to Azubu Blaze 3-0, but the internet connection was pretty bad and it was very obvious from the games. When they came back, they beat Azubu Frost 3-2 in very entertaining series. Although they lost to LG-IM in the following match, but they are pretty good.
Biggest strength of iG is that they have a wide range of champions they can play in each lane and throws various strategies at their opponent. This method definitely benefits them more in a series than bo1. M5 better do their homework, or they might just get caught off-guard.

I expect Sword to steamroll TPA. The other games I think will be quite entertaining. I predict semifinals to be CLG.eu vs Azubu Frost in revenge match of The Champions Summer Final and M5 vs Najin Sword in super aggressive game with tower dives left and right.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 05 2012 14:15 GMT
#4422
thank you maknoon for the many noobdalee tops now
cool beans
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
October 05 2012 14:20 GMT
#4423
Worse than noobalee are the anti skillshot luxes. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
October 05 2012 14:21 GMT
#4424
On October 05 2012 23:15 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
thank you maknoon for the many noobdalee tops now

maknoobdalees? :D
(>°_°)>
Chairraider
Profile Joined August 2011
37 Posts
October 05 2012 14:24 GMT
#4425

Icefrog was apparently made aware of this from facebook and replied "he will be punished" or something to that effect


Fyi, IceFrog does not have a facebook account, it's a fake.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
October 05 2012 14:27 GMT
#4426
I honestly didnt like how Riot hyped up the Finals. They said theyre gonna take it to the next level and show the world how eSports should be done, but its basically comparable to Asus ROG or IEM in my opinion. They should deliver if they promise that kind of stuff.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
October 05 2012 14:33 GMT
#4427
On October 05 2012 19:52 Kupon3ss wrote:
Quality of the group stage is about the same, with a lot less games from LoL, both events have group stages that were mostly Stomps with a few gems here and there - with the TI2 Group Stage having 4x the games. That said, the fact that the groups happened and were broadcasted on the main stage instead of at a random room inside valve should have been a plus if not for the second point.

Production Value, having been to TI2 and after talking to friends who went to the world finals, they simply do not compare. The outdoor venue, while done fairly well, is far inferior in almost every way to the concert hall valve spent a week meticulously preparing. The lack of soundproof booths and having to deal with the silly weather and poor seating at an outdoor event were both major complaints. The first led to the game having to be casted in a non-interactive manner without a lot of the emotion and crowd responses that made TI2 so great. The weather outside and the way it varied during the day and dipped after sunset was quite uncomfortable for many of the casters and the people I talked to

Overall Atmosphere - Aside from the korean casting ogn staff (with their excellent balance between banter and analysis and the couch that made the Chinese casters rather jelly), the entire event felt somewhat unpolished and unprofessional (but only in direct comparison to TI2). This comes from the combination of the lack of hype, the lower quality of the non-game content, the venue, and the way the event started an hour late, etc etc.

Caveat
LoL World Championships has its finals a week from now and has the potential to use the feedback from the prior events to craft a much better show next week

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 19:50 Sableyeah wrote:
Why does M5 and TSM get first pick in first game while Taipei Assasins and World Elite not?


l337noScope480xXx Coin Flipping skillz i'd imagine


I agree with everything here.

Also something to bring up is that I don't understand why the teams are playing so little games. It's the World Finals and 4 teams get sent home after only playing 3 games (3 bo1s is terrible when you consider the imbalance of the map/first pick). Today another 4 teams go home, with each team only playing a max of 3 more games. What's more if the auto seeded teams (the 4/5 teams getting seeded was the most retarded shit I've seen in a long time) lose there first games they will go out having only played 2 or 3 games. So it's possible 8/12 teams go home after only playing 3 games. For a hyped up world finals with this amount of prize pool on the line the format is completely insufficient. With the format I can easily see a team who don't really deserve it getting much further than they should.

Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
October 05 2012 14:35 GMT
#4428
On October 05 2012 23:27 GoSuChicken wrote:
I honestly didnt like how Riot hyped up the Finals. They said theyre gonna take it to the next level and show the world how eSports should be done, but its basically comparable to Asus ROG or IEM in my opinion. They should deliver if they promise that kind of stuff.

Finals haven't arrived yet. You realize they rented a college basketball arena that seats over 10k+ and its sold out. Whether or not they use all the seats, there is likely a big crowd attending. Just the playoffs going on right now, finals are on the 13th.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
October 05 2012 14:36 GMT
#4429
On October 05 2012 23:35 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 23:27 GoSuChicken wrote:
I honestly didnt like how Riot hyped up the Finals. They said theyre gonna take it to the next level and show the world how eSports should be done, but its basically comparable to Asus ROG or IEM in my opinion. They should deliver if they promise that kind of stuff.

Finals haven't arrived yet. You realize they rented a college basketball arena that seats over 10k+ and its sold out. Whether or not they use all the seats, there is likely a big crowd attending. Just the playoffs going on right now, finals are on the 13th.


This event is part of the finals, you can't just ignore it.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
October 05 2012 14:40 GMT
#4430
On October 05 2012 23:27 GoSuChicken wrote:
I honestly didnt like how Riot hyped up the Finals. They said theyre gonna take it to the next level and show the world how eSports should be done, but its basically comparable to Asus ROG or IEM in my opinion. They should deliver if they promise that kind of stuff.


I dunno.....having 13 language streams all with thousands and thousands of viewers each? That alone is very very impressive.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
October 05 2012 14:41 GMT
#4431
On October 05 2012 23:36 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 23:35 Irave wrote:
On October 05 2012 23:27 GoSuChicken wrote:
I honestly didnt like how Riot hyped up the Finals. They said theyre gonna take it to the next level and show the world how eSports should be done, but its basically comparable to Asus ROG or IEM in my opinion. They should deliver if they promise that kind of stuff.

Finals haven't arrived yet. You realize they rented a college basketball arena that seats over 10k+ and its sold out. Whether or not they use all the seats, there is likely a big crowd attending. Just the playoffs going on right now, finals are on the 13th.


This event is part of the finals, you can't just ignore it.

Partially, hyping big plans for the finals then hosting it a week after this. Suggests they are considering some crazy things for just that day. On top of offering a 2 million dollar prize pool, free hd streams to online viewers. Giving easy access to companies etc, to get this on a real global stage. I think they have done plenty so far.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
October 05 2012 14:43 GMT
#4432
So people kinda mentioned that there are translators for the Chinese/Korean streams. Is that to English? Is it possible that I could watch subtitled Asian commentary rather than the English commentary?
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
October 05 2012 14:48 GMT
#4433
On October 05 2012 23:43 phyvo wrote:
So people kinda mentioned that there are translators for the Chinese/Korean streams. Is that to English? Is it possible that I could watch subtitled Asian commentary rather than the English commentary?



How would subtitles be possible on a live stream?
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
October 05 2012 14:49 GMT
#4434
On October 05 2012 23:40 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 23:27 GoSuChicken wrote:
I honestly didnt like how Riot hyped up the Finals. They said theyre gonna take it to the next level and show the world how eSports should be done, but its basically comparable to Asus ROG or IEM in my opinion. They should deliver if they promise that kind of stuff.


I dunno.....having 13 language streams all with thousands and thousands of viewers each? That alone is very very impressive.


Having a lot of viewers because the game is so popular is nothing to do with how impressive the actual event is.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 05 2012 14:59 GMT
#4435
Every moment I'm at work, pre-3 EST is pure torture. WANT MOAR LOL.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
October 05 2012 15:00 GMT
#4436
On October 05 2012 23:49 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 23:40 nojitosunrise wrote:
On October 05 2012 23:27 GoSuChicken wrote:
I honestly didnt like how Riot hyped up the Finals. They said theyre gonna take it to the next level and show the world how eSports should be done, but its basically comparable to Asus ROG or IEM in my opinion. They should deliver if they promise that kind of stuff.


I dunno.....having 13 language streams all with thousands and thousands of viewers each? That alone is very very impressive.


Having a lot of viewers because the game is so popular is nothing to do with how impressive the actual event is.

I don't know....

Rotating stages
Player/Team intro videos
Individual static cameras for each player at their PC
Good video content
Crystal clear stream
Professionally dressed hosts/casters

....seems pretty top notch to me.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 05 2012 15:02 GMT
#4437
There hasn't been any technical difficulties as well, thankfully. Though the audience output is a bit small, (but it was thursday, so understandable).
liftlift > tsm
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 15:06:29
October 05 2012 15:05 GMT
#4438
lets say TSM loses to Azubu, that would mean that he fan favorites only got to play 1 match in the whole tournament. That rly sucks.
Do you ppl think they will change the format for the next year? i really hope so



On October 06 2012 00:00 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 23:49 Goshawk. wrote:
On October 05 2012 23:40 nojitosunrise wrote:
On October 05 2012 23:27 GoSuChicken wrote:
I honestly didnt like how Riot hyped up the Finals. They said theyre gonna take it to the next level and show the world how eSports should be done, but its basically comparable to Asus ROG or IEM in my opinion. They should deliver if they promise that kind of stuff.


I dunno.....having 13 language streams all with thousands and thousands of viewers each? That alone is very very impressive.


Having a lot of viewers because the game is so popular is nothing to do with how impressive the actual event is.

I don't know....

Rotating stages
Player/Team intro videos
Individual static cameras for each player at their PC
Good video content
Crystal clear stream
Professionally dressed hosts/casters

....seems pretty top notch to me.


I like the organization of the whole thing, if i could change something i would definitely get better (pro or ex pro) casters
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
October 05 2012 15:06 GMT
#4439
On October 06 2012 00:02 wei2coolman wrote:
There hasn't been any technical difficulties as well, thankfully. Though the audience output is a bit small, (but it was thursday, so understandable).


You obviously aren't from Europe. The streams have been horribly laggy, with screen freezes and audio loss. It got way better as the night went on though, and no issues when group b started.
Flaf?
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
October 05 2012 15:07 GMT
#4440
On October 06 2012 00:05 CROrens wrote:
lets say TSM loses to Azubu, that would mean that he fan favorites only got to play 1 match in the whole tournament. That rly sucks.
Do you ppl think they will change the format for the next year? i really hope so



Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:00 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On October 05 2012 23:49 Goshawk. wrote:
On October 05 2012 23:40 nojitosunrise wrote:
On October 05 2012 23:27 GoSuChicken wrote:
I honestly didnt like how Riot hyped up the Finals. They said theyre gonna take it to the next level and show the world how eSports should be done, but its basically comparable to Asus ROG or IEM in my opinion. They should deliver if they promise that kind of stuff.


I dunno.....having 13 language streams all with thousands and thousands of viewers each? That alone is very very impressive.


Having a lot of viewers because the game is so popular is nothing to do with how impressive the actual event is.

I don't know....

Rotating stages
Player/Team intro videos
Individual static cameras for each player at their PC
Good video content
Crystal clear stream
Professionally dressed hosts/casters

....seems pretty top notch to me.


I like the organization of the whole thing, if i could change something i would definitely get better (pro or ex pro) casters


Isn't it best of 3?
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
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