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On October 05 2012 06:56 GoSuChicken wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 06:54 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On October 05 2012 06:53 GoSuChicken wrote:
Honestly...
The foreign teams were all like "Uhhh Frost is soooooo overrated"
They should just man up and come down from their high horse... Or read more TL. Our writeups pretty good. I read all the write ups, I am talking about the statements that all the players made, like Doublelift, Hotshot and the rest.
Were you here when SC2 had just started? Koreans as a whole were considered overrated up until MLG Anaheim, when MVP, MMA and the rest just straight up mopped the floor with the foreigners.
In LoL they are still in the denial phase. Give it some more time. It will transition into "Koreans are good but boring and no personality" phase.
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On October 05 2012 07:07 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy. this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day..... They won't. CLG and TSM both picked up B teams after seeing how hard Azubu Frost and Blaze dominated. They then proceeded to scirm their B teams every so often instead of utilizing their B teams as 24/7 scrim partners. TSM.evo and CLG.black just became scrub teams to give CLG/TSM more exposure. Just like other eSports the NA scene will likely fade away. A few players might be good and dedicated enough to create a solid roster that can rival European and Asian teams. For right now, the NA scene is definitely still relevant. But in a year or two they're going to be the jokes of tournaments like this. I mean, CLG, TSM, and Dignitas look pretty close in skill when they play each other. Watching CLG against iG and Frost was horrific. I don't expect NA to post good results this tournament. I will be shocked if Dig or TSM makes it to semis, much less finals (I guess TSM could go to semis if they get an easier quarter finals opponent, like Dig or CLGeu).
TSM was pretty much 24/7 scrimming Curse it seems since they were staying at their house. DL said that while they were streaming a shit ton they were doing some unstreamed scrims vs CLGEU.
Its why I think Curse will be a force next season. They have their house and they are the only NA team who currently have players actually getting better. In the NA regionals they had advantages in all their major losses cause they made mistakes that snowballed. If they can clean that up and their players can continue to improve they can be very relevant.
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On October 05 2012 07:05 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:02 tofubeans wrote:On October 05 2012 06:59 Liquid`NonY wrote:On October 05 2012 06:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Chauster needs to reevaluate what he thinks he knows about the game because CLG got outplayed, outthought in every game. exactly what i was thinking. seems like some bad communication and bad calls on CLG's end and i know it's chauster dominating the conversation. either they need to communicate and execute better or chauster has really fallen behind the rest of the world strat wise who are you rooting for Nony? any favorites? nah idk. i like mme ferus and they arent in it. this is my first time seeing azubu frost and i really like their teamwork and shy is off the hook. so i kinda like them right now. i cheer for NA teams but just feel a little more embarrassed for CLG prime ;; i hope TSM and dignitas can take some games
Cheer for Dig with me bud. It's going to be really hard for them to beat both Najin and Clg.eu but I believe in the qtpie. I'm expecting
a. Imaqtpie Kog'maw and possibly Draven?
b. Weird cheese. Though I don't know if Patoy is smart at building weird comps like L0CUST
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Psh. I'm chinese speaking, I'm rooting for TPA. BASED TAIWAN. Yeah, that's right.
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On October 05 2012 07:10 CROrens wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:08 Slaughter wrote:On October 05 2012 07:08 CROrens wrote:
Hey ppl, why did taipei assassins and team WE deserve a direct place in the quarter finals? are they really that good. Personally id love to see SK CLG and azubu in the quarter... They won their regionals. oh so they beat auzubu and IG before? if thats the case then they deserve it i guess
They didnt although I am pretty sure you know that- 
And yes, the format is retarded. The advantage for winnign a reginal tournament is way too big.
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On October 05 2012 07:10 nokz88 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 06:56 GoSuChicken wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On October 05 2012 06:53 GoSuChicken wrote:
Honestly...
The foreign teams were all like "Uhhh Frost is soooooo overrated"
They should just man up and come down from their high horse... Or read more TL. Our writeups pretty good. I read all the write ups, I am talking about the statements that all the players made, like Doublelift, Hotshot and the rest. Were you here when SC2 had just started? Koreans as a whole were considered overrated up until MLG Aneheim, when MVP, MMA and the rest just straight up mopped the floor with the foreigners. In LoL they are still in the denial phase. Give it some more time. It will transition into "Koreans are good but boring and no personality" phase.
just need more locodoco clones
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On October 05 2012 07:06 adriftt wrote:
honestly the biggest turning point in that game was kind of voyboys fault. when he teleported bot during that gank it was a good play and they killed sona for free. rest of the team starts leaving but he keeps going trying for more kills and ends up baiting them all to their deaths. could have been 1 for 0 but ended up 1 for 4 haha
Well, it would've been 1 for 1, since jiji had just died middle when Jax came down to pick him off. Jiji had pushed mid up to make sure Karth couldn't help bot, which left him exposed when Jax came down. His death really should've tipped Voyboy off that Jax might be in the area, and he shouldn't keep going in on Maokai. >_< I agree with you, though, that this was where the game really turned around. Immediately after this, Frost went to dragon, baiting Mundo and Lulu out to their deaths. It was a huge swing.
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On October 05 2012 07:07 Chexx wrote:
Can someboday say how the game Frost vs. iG was? Was ist close or Frost dominated?
Best game of the night by far. Really close, action packed and exciting plays all over the game.
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On October 05 2012 07:10 CROrens wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:08 Slaughter wrote:On October 05 2012 07:08 CROrens wrote:
Hey ppl, why did taipei assassins and team WE deserve a direct place in the quarter finals? are they really that good. Personally id love to see SK CLG and azubu in the quarter... They won their regionals. oh so they beat auzubu and IG before? if thats the case then they deserve it i guess
WE and TPA are Chinese teams, different regional.
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Is oce even good with TF?
Second time it's banned against him I think
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On October 05 2012 07:10 nokz88 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 06:56 GoSuChicken wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On October 05 2012 06:53 GoSuChicken wrote:
Honestly...
The foreign teams were all like "Uhhh Frost is soooooo overrated"
They should just man up and come down from their high horse... Or read more TL. Our writeups pretty good. I read all the write ups, I am talking about the statements that all the players made, like Doublelift, Hotshot and the rest. Were you here when SC2 had just started? Koreans as a whole were considered overrated up until MLG Aneheim, when MVP, MMA and the rest just straight up mopped the floor with the foreigners. In LoL they are still in the denial phase. Give it some more time. It will transition into "Koreans are good but boring and no personality" phase.
I think he was more talking about Doublelift statement on Frost. He said that they basically sucked, especially their botlane, and that Naijin sword is the big bad wolf of the tournament.
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On October 05 2012 07:11 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:07 overt wrote:On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy. this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day..... They won't. CLG and TSM both picked up B teams after seeing how hard Azubu Frost and Blaze dominated. They then proceeded to scirm their B teams every so often instead of utilizing their B teams as 24/7 scrim partners. TSM.evo and CLG.black just became scrub teams to give CLG/TSM more exposure. Just like other eSports the NA scene will likely fade away. A few players might be good and dedicated enough to create a solid roster that can rival European and Asian teams. For right now, the NA scene is definitely still relevant. But in a year or two they're going to be the jokes of tournaments like this. I mean, CLG, TSM, and Dignitas look pretty close in skill when they play each other. Watching CLG against iG and Frost was horrific. I don't expect NA to post good results this tournament. I will be shocked if Dig or TSM makes it to semis, much less finals (I guess TSM could go to semis if they get an easier quarter finals opponent, like Dig or CLGeu). TSM was pretty much 24/7 scrimming Curse it seems since they were staying at their house. DL said that while they were streaming a shit ton they were doing some unstreamed scrims vs CLGEU. Its why I think Curse will be a force next season. They have their house and they are the only NA team who currently have players actually getting better. In the NA regionals they had advantages in all their major losses cause they made mistakes that snowballed. If they can get a new top laner and their players can continue to improve they can be very relevant.
Fixed that for you. They should drop Westrice and/or Salce. Pick up someone who's going to be consistent in top lane. Even if it's just someone like Dyrus who won't ever "win" top but at least won't feed.
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On October 05 2012 07:05 GARO wrote:
Hehe, one of the iG members looks like a mini Chuan with glasses
well dont think there can be bigger stomps than clg.na surrendering to iG after 2x minutes or Frost having 16k goldlead on clg after 26minutes. but yeah im expecting another stomp, need group and and clg.eu already to restore some faith in our western scene. If clg.eu somehow derps our russian overlord will show them how it's done though.
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On October 05 2012 07:09 petered wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:07 overt wrote:On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy. this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day..... They won't. CLG and TSM both picked up B teams after seeing how hard Azubu Frost and Blaze dominated. They then proceeded to scirm their B teams every so often instead of utilizing their B teams as 24/7 scrim partners. TSM.evo and CLG.black just became scrub teams to give CLG/TSM more exposure. Just like other eSports the NA scene will likely fade away. A few players might be good and dedicated enough to create a solid roster that can rival European and Asian teams. For right now, the NA scene is definitely still relevant. But in a year or two they're going to be the jokes of tournaments like this. I mean, CLG, TSM, and Dignitas look pretty close in skill when they play each other. Watching CLG against iG and Frost was horrific. I don't expect NA to post good results this tournament. I will be shocked if Dig or TSM makes it to semis, much less finals (I guess TSM could go to semis if they get an easier quarter finals opponent, like Dig or CLGeu). The NA teams are too popular to "fade away" but they won't be competitive at the highest level in the coming years, imo.
A lot like certain American starcraft players.
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On October 05 2012 07:10 nokz88 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 06:56 GoSuChicken wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On October 05 2012 06:53 GoSuChicken wrote:
Honestly...
The foreign teams were all like "Uhhh Frost is soooooo overrated"
They should just man up and come down from their high horse... Or read more TL. Our writeups pretty good. I read all the write ups, I am talking about the statements that all the players made, like Doublelift, Hotshot and the rest. Were you here when SC2 had just started? Koreans as a whole were considered overrated up until MLG Aneheim, when MVP, MMA and the rest just straight up mopped the floor with the foreigners. In LoL they are still in the denial phase. Give it some more time. It will transition into "Koreans are good but boring and no personality" phase.
Considering how much the Koreans were cussing in the game 1 replay. lack of personality is not an issue 
shit was hilarious.
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On October 05 2012 07:11 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:07 overt wrote:On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy. this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day..... They won't. CLG and TSM both picked up B teams after seeing how hard Azubu Frost and Blaze dominated. They then proceeded to scirm their B teams every so often instead of utilizing their B teams as 24/7 scrim partners. TSM.evo and CLG.black just became scrub teams to give CLG/TSM more exposure. Just like other eSports the NA scene will likely fade away. A few players might be good and dedicated enough to create a solid roster that can rival European and Asian teams. For right now, the NA scene is definitely still relevant. But in a year or two they're going to be the jokes of tournaments like this. I mean, CLG, TSM, and Dignitas look pretty close in skill when they play each other. Watching CLG against iG and Frost was horrific. I don't expect NA to post good results this tournament. I will be shocked if Dig or TSM makes it to semis, much less finals (I guess TSM could go to semis if they get an easier quarter finals opponent, like Dig or CLGeu). TSM was pretty much 24/7 scrimming Curse it seems since they were staying at their house. DL said that while they were streaming a shit ton they were doing some unstreamed scrims vs CLGEU. Its why I think Curse will be a force next season. They have their house and they are the only NA team who currently have players actually getting better. In the NA regionals they had advantages in all their major losses cause they made mistakes that snowballed. If they can clean that up and their players can continue to improve they can be very relevant.
Allegedly TSM is 0-11 against a team they scrimmed before the worlds.
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Malph and Shen? This is like solo q.
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On October 05 2012 07:10 CROrens wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:08 Slaughter wrote:On October 05 2012 07:08 CROrens wrote:
Hey ppl, why did taipei assassins and team WE deserve a direct place in the quarter finals? are they really that good. Personally id love to see SK CLG and azubu in the quarter... They won their regionals. oh so they beat auzubu and IG before? if thats the case then they deserve it i guess
WE always stomps iG
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On October 05 2012 07:12 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:11 Slaughter wrote:On October 05 2012 07:07 overt wrote:On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy. this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day..... They won't. CLG and TSM both picked up B teams after seeing how hard Azubu Frost and Blaze dominated. They then proceeded to scirm their B teams every so often instead of utilizing their B teams as 24/7 scrim partners. TSM.evo and CLG.black just became scrub teams to give CLG/TSM more exposure. Just like other eSports the NA scene will likely fade away. A few players might be good and dedicated enough to create a solid roster that can rival European and Asian teams. For right now, the NA scene is definitely still relevant. But in a year or two they're going to be the jokes of tournaments like this. I mean, CLG, TSM, and Dignitas look pretty close in skill when they play each other. Watching CLG against iG and Frost was horrific. I don't expect NA to post good results this tournament. I will be shocked if Dig or TSM makes it to semis, much less finals (I guess TSM could go to semis if they get an easier quarter finals opponent, like Dig or CLGeu). TSM was pretty much 24/7 scrimming Curse it seems since they were staying at their house. DL said that while they were streaming a shit ton they were doing some unstreamed scrims vs CLGEU. Its why I think Curse will be a force next season. They have their house and they are the only NA team who currently have players actually getting better. In the NA regionals they had advantages in all their major losses cause they made mistakes that snowballed. If they can get a new top laner and their players can continue to improve they can be very relevant. Fixed that for you. They should drop Westrice and/or Salce. Pick up someone who's going to be consistent in top lane. Even if it's just someone like Dyrus who won't ever "win" top but at least won't feed.
Wingsofdeath is the only one I can think of that's a free agent, but I don't think they will kick West or Salce because of the face-to-face living in the same house element.
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