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AP Jayce. :-o
mMe.Ferus did this against TSM last weekend in TSM's invite tourney and Regi's Oriana got absolutely crushed. It'll be interesting to see how it goes vs. Cass.
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On October 05 2012 07:12 scarper65 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:09 petered wrote:On October 05 2012 07:07 overt wrote:On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy. this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day..... They won't. CLG and TSM both picked up B teams after seeing how hard Azubu Frost and Blaze dominated. They then proceeded to scirm their B teams every so often instead of utilizing their B teams as 24/7 scrim partners. TSM.evo and CLG.black just became scrub teams to give CLG/TSM more exposure. Just like other eSports the NA scene will likely fade away. A few players might be good and dedicated enough to create a solid roster that can rival European and Asian teams. For right now, the NA scene is definitely still relevant. But in a year or two they're going to be the jokes of tournaments like this. I mean, CLG, TSM, and Dignitas look pretty close in skill when they play each other. Watching CLG against iG and Frost was horrific. I don't expect NA to post good results this tournament. I will be shocked if Dig or TSM makes it to semis, much less finals (I guess TSM could go to semis if they get an easier quarter finals opponent, like Dig or CLGeu). The NA teams are too popular to "fade away" but they won't be competitive at the highest level in the coming years, imo. A lot like certain American starcraft players.
big suprise if you stream soloq all day long and never scrim. You will get your ass kicked by serious teams
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On October 05 2012 07:12 Dandel Ion wrote:Is oce even good with TF? Second time it's banned against him I think
No, these teams aren't banning players out. They're banning against the picks they want to make.
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malph leona shen
i forsee bad things happening to SK
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On October 05 2012 07:11 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:10 CROrens wrote:On October 05 2012 07:08 Slaughter wrote:On October 05 2012 07:08 CROrens wrote:
Hey ppl, why did taipei assassins and team WE deserve a direct place in the quarter finals? are they really that good. Personally id love to see SK CLG and azubu in the quarter... They won their regionals. oh so they beat auzubu and IG before? if thats the case then they deserve it i guess They didnt although I am pretty sure you know that-  And yes, the format is retarded. The advantage for winnign a reginal tournament is way too big.
actually i didnt, i didnt follow the regionals all that much except for the european and the USA one.
... this format is honestly rly rly bad. why do they complicate this shit so much
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On October 05 2012 07:08 -_- wrote:
holy schamole 200k viewers. i'm tuning in, but i wonder if i'll be able to understand anything because i don't play LoL.
That's only in one stream  . It's over 500k in all Twitch/Own3d streams that Riot is running. Plus we've got no idea how many viewers the Chinese streams have.
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On October 05 2012 07:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:12 Dandel Ion wrote:Is oce even good with TF? Second time it's banned against him I think No, these teams aren't banning players out. They're banning against the picks they want to make.
That's redundant if he's not gonna play him anyways, though.
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France45622 Posts
On October 05 2012 07:07 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:06 TheYango wrote:So many more cheers for SK.  "iG, don't be flustered by the cheers of the crowd. Remember--the hearts of the entire Chinese-speaking world are behind you." 中國加油!
As if we needed to speak Chinese to cheer for them. 
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On October 05 2012 07:13 GeorgeForeman wrote:
AP Jayce. :-o
mMe.Ferus did this against TSM last weekend in TSM's invite tourney and Regi's Oriana got absolutely crushed. It'll be interesting to see how it goes vs. Cass.
Wasn't AP Jayce, it was just Jayce mid.
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On October 05 2012 07:13 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:11 Slaughter wrote:On October 05 2012 07:07 overt wrote:On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy. this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day..... They won't. CLG and TSM both picked up B teams after seeing how hard Azubu Frost and Blaze dominated. They then proceeded to scirm their B teams every so often instead of utilizing their B teams as 24/7 scrim partners. TSM.evo and CLG.black just became scrub teams to give CLG/TSM more exposure. Just like other eSports the NA scene will likely fade away. A few players might be good and dedicated enough to create a solid roster that can rival European and Asian teams. For right now, the NA scene is definitely still relevant. But in a year or two they're going to be the jokes of tournaments like this. I mean, CLG, TSM, and Dignitas look pretty close in skill when they play each other. Watching CLG against iG and Frost was horrific. I don't expect NA to post good results this tournament. I will be shocked if Dig or TSM makes it to semis, much less finals (I guess TSM could go to semis if they get an easier quarter finals opponent, like Dig or CLGeu). TSM was pretty much 24/7 scrimming Curse it seems since they were staying at their house. DL said that while they were streaming a shit ton they were doing some unstreamed scrims vs CLGEU. Its why I think Curse will be a force next season. They have their house and they are the only NA team who currently have players actually getting better. In the NA regionals they had advantages in all their major losses cause they made mistakes that snowballed. If they can clean that up and their players can continue to improve they can be very relevant. Allegedly TSM is 0-11 against a team they scrimmed before the worlds.
What team? Also TSM always blows before any big tourney. Maybe its cause they learn from their losses? Unlike certain other teams who just throw out some TP strats and say Taadaa!
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On October 05 2012 07:02 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 06:58 ketchup wrote:On October 05 2012 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Only thing you should take away from this is that CLG is not A tier material on an international level. And that saddens me. ;; This is true. I'm still always confused why everyone hate on jiji? Jiji and voyboy only reason to cheer on CLGna. So disappointed with how they are currently playing Coming from a big jiji fan, jiji hasn't improved at all since beta/Season 1. Moon and I were just talking earlier, if jiji improved as much as Nyjacky did this past season, CLG would be a focking terror again.
Curse is my favorite NA team and I love Nyjacky and how much he has improved this season. I really believe that Nyjacky is now the best overall midlaner in NA.
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On October 05 2012 07:14 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:On October 05 2012 07:12 Dandel Ion wrote:Is oce even good with TF? Second time it's banned against him I think No, these teams aren't banning players out. They're banning against the picks they want to make. That's redundant if he's not gonna play him anyways, though.
Probably a lack of homework and not wanting to take any risks in case he has played TF in scrims or something. They're more scared of a champion than they are of ocelote playing orianna or karthus or whatevs.
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I really really want SK to win this, and to make it through to the quarter finals. But they probably won't. At least they'll be in season 3.
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On October 05 2012 07:10 nokz88 wrote:
In LoL they are still in the denial phase. Give it some more time. It will transition into "Koreans are good but boring and no personality" phase.
can't wait until the "Koreans are just mechanical players with no creativity" phase.
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On October 05 2012 07:15 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:13 TheKefka wrote:On October 05 2012 07:11 Slaughter wrote:On October 05 2012 07:07 overt wrote:On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy. this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day..... They won't. CLG and TSM both picked up B teams after seeing how hard Azubu Frost and Blaze dominated. They then proceeded to scirm their B teams every so often instead of utilizing their B teams as 24/7 scrim partners. TSM.evo and CLG.black just became scrub teams to give CLG/TSM more exposure. Just like other eSports the NA scene will likely fade away. A few players might be good and dedicated enough to create a solid roster that can rival European and Asian teams. For right now, the NA scene is definitely still relevant. But in a year or two they're going to be the jokes of tournaments like this. I mean, CLG, TSM, and Dignitas look pretty close in skill when they play each other. Watching CLG against iG and Frost was horrific. I don't expect NA to post good results this tournament. I will be shocked if Dig or TSM makes it to semis, much less finals (I guess TSM could go to semis if they get an easier quarter finals opponent, like Dig or CLGeu). TSM was pretty much 24/7 scrimming Curse it seems since they were staying at their house. DL said that while they were streaming a shit ton they were doing some unstreamed scrims vs CLGEU. Its why I think Curse will be a force next season. They have their house and they are the only NA team who currently have players actually getting better. In the NA regionals they had advantages in all their major losses cause they made mistakes that snowballed. If they can clean that up and their players can continue to improve they can be very relevant. Allegedly TSM is 0-11 against a team they scrimmed before the worlds. What team? Also TSM always blows before any big tourney. Maybe its cause they learn from their losses? Unlike certain other teams who just throw out some TP strats and say Taadaa!
*looksatpost...thinks...looksatnatioality*
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On October 05 2012 07:14 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:On October 05 2012 07:12 Dandel Ion wrote:Is oce even good with TF? Second time it's banned against him I think No, these teams aren't banning players out. They're banning against the picks they want to make. That's redundant if he's not gonna play him anyways, though.
well, maybe they are confident enough in their ability and just need to ban in a way that they can just play their strategy without needing to rely on player bans.
Why take chances when the odds are on your favor.
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On October 05 2012 07:15 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:13 TheKefka wrote:On October 05 2012 07:11 Slaughter wrote:On October 05 2012 07:07 overt wrote:On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy. this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day..... They won't. CLG and TSM both picked up B teams after seeing how hard Azubu Frost and Blaze dominated. They then proceeded to scirm their B teams every so often instead of utilizing their B teams as 24/7 scrim partners. TSM.evo and CLG.black just became scrub teams to give CLG/TSM more exposure. Just like other eSports the NA scene will likely fade away. A few players might be good and dedicated enough to create a solid roster that can rival European and Asian teams. For right now, the NA scene is definitely still relevant. But in a year or two they're going to be the jokes of tournaments like this. I mean, CLG, TSM, and Dignitas look pretty close in skill when they play each other. Watching CLG against iG and Frost was horrific. I don't expect NA to post good results this tournament. I will be shocked if Dig or TSM makes it to semis, much less finals (I guess TSM could go to semis if they get an easier quarter finals opponent, like Dig or CLGeu). TSM was pretty much 24/7 scrimming Curse it seems since they were staying at their house. DL said that while they were streaming a shit ton they were doing some unstreamed scrims vs CLGEU. Its why I think Curse will be a force next season. They have their house and they are the only NA team who currently have players actually getting better. In the NA regionals they had advantages in all their major losses cause they made mistakes that snowballed. If they can clean that up and their players can continue to improve they can be very relevant. Allegedly TSM is 0-11 against a team they scrimmed before the worlds. What team? Also TSM always blows before any big tourney. Maybe its cause they learn from their losses? Unlike certain other teams who just throw out some TP strats and say Taadaa!
Some fairly newish young team I think,I forgot what they are called for some reason Odd Future is popping in my head all the time lol.
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TSM is probably good enough to survive against the top 'Asian' teams. CLG and Dig...meh. TSM has the best top laner in NA and arguably the top jungler in NA along with Chaox and Xpecial who are at the level that they can deal with the top level. Only question remains Regi who we don't get to see often enough.
And I dont even like TSM. But to think that they are already irrelevant in the big picture at this point is a bit premature.
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On October 05 2012 07:12 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:10 nokz88 wrote:On October 05 2012 06:56 GoSuChicken wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On October 05 2012 06:53 GoSuChicken wrote:
Honestly...
The foreign teams were all like "Uhhh Frost is soooooo overrated"
They should just man up and come down from their high horse... Or read more TL. Our writeups pretty good. I read all the write ups, I am talking about the statements that all the players made, like Doublelift, Hotshot and the rest. Were you here when SC2 had just started? Koreans as a whole were considered overrated up until MLG Aneheim, when MVP, MMA and the rest just straight up mopped the floor with the foreigners. In LoL they are still in the denial phase. Give it some more time. It will transition into "Koreans are good but boring and no personality" phase. Considering how much the Koreans were cussing in the game 1 replay. lack of personality is not an issue shit was hilarious. Never having watched this game before the difference in communication between western teams (non CIS) and a SEA/Chinese teams seem pretty similar to dota. Chinese teams are loud as all hell. (although Pinoy is worse) This really comes from the Asian players playing in Lan centers while western (non CIS) playing online with headsets will always be a lot more quiet and less emotional.
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On October 05 2012 07:15 UnKooL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:02 NeoIllusions wrote:On October 05 2012 06:58 ketchup wrote:On October 05 2012 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Only thing you should take away from this is that CLG is not A tier material on an international level. And that saddens me. ;; This is true. I'm still always confused why everyone hate on jiji? Jiji and voyboy only reason to cheer on CLGna. So disappointed with how they are currently playing Coming from a big jiji fan, jiji hasn't improved at all since beta/Season 1. Moon and I were just talking earlier, if jiji improved as much as Nyjacky did this past season, CLG would be a focking terror again. Curse is my favorite NA team and I love Nyjacky and how much he has improved this season. I really believe that Nyjacky is now the best overall midlaner in NA.
Ya, more nyjacky fanboism! but tbh, NA mid laners are all so sub-par, that saying nyjacky is best mid NA isn't saying much.
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