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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
October 04 2012 22:07 GMT
#2621
On October 05 2012 07:06 TheYango wrote:
So many more cheers for SK.

"iG, don't be flustered by the cheers of the crowd. Remember--the hearts of the entire Chinese-speaking world are behind you."

中國加油!
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 22:09:26
October 04 2012 22:07 GMT
#2622
On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy.

this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day.....


They won't. CLG and TSM both picked up B teams after seeing how hard Azubu Frost and Blaze dominated. They then proceeded to scirm their B teams every so often instead of utilizing their B teams as 24/7 scrim partners. TSM.evo and CLG.black just became scrub teams to give CLG/TSM more exposure.

Just like other eSports the NA scene will likely fade away. A few players might be good and dedicated enough to create a solid roster that can rival European and Asian teams.

For right now, the NA scene is definitely still relevant. But in a year or two they're going to be the jokes of tournaments like this. I mean, CLG, TSM, and Dignitas look pretty close in skill when they play each other. Watching CLG against iG and Frost was horrific. I don't expect NA to post good results this tournament. I will be shocked if Dig or TSM makes it to semis, much less finals (I guess TSM could go to semis if they get an easier quarter finals opponent, like Dig or CLGeu).

edit:
I don't think jiji is that passive in mid tbh. People have been saying he's too passive for like a year. He gave away first blood last game while being aggressive and harassing Karthus while stealing wraiths lol. He roams more than some other mids. He's not as passive as people still make him out to be. He's just not as good as other APs anymore.
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
October 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#2623
Hey ppl, why did taipei assassins and team WE deserve a direct place in the quarter finals? are they really that good. Personally id love to see SK CLG and azubu in the quarter...
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#2624
holy schamole 200k viewers. i'm tuning in, but i wonder if i'll be able to understand anything because i don't play LoL.
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
October 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#2625
On October 05 2012 07:07 Chexx wrote:
Can someboday say how the game Frost vs. iG was? Was ist close or Frost dominated?

Very very close.

Nailbiting game.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#2626
Woot. Another XiaoXiao game. Time to see some more spy plays.
God Bless
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#2627
On October 05 2012 07:08 CROrens wrote:
Hey ppl, why did taipei assassins and team WE deserve a direct place in the quarter finals? are they really that good. Personally id love to see SK CLG and azubu in the quarter...


They won their regionals.
Never Knows Best.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#2628
On October 05 2012 07:07 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 07:05 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 05 2012 07:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
On October 05 2012 06:58 ketchup wrote:
On October 05 2012 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Only thing you should take away from this is that CLG is not A tier material on an international level. And that saddens me. ;;


This is true. I'm still always confused why everyone hate on jiji? Jiji and voyboy only reason to cheer on CLGna.

So disappointed with how they are currently playing


Coming from a big jiji fan, jiji hasn't improved at all since beta/Season 1.

Moon and I were just talking earlier, if jiji improved as much as Nyjacky did this past season, CLG would be a focking terror again.

nyjacky/cop/elementz, all improved a tremendous amonut (after St.V joined. HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT). St.V pretty much drilled into nyjacky to play other champs, other than just veigar and morg. Nyjacky one of my favorite mids at this point, ever since he's improved.

jiji only had one impressive tourney showing this entire year, it was his anivia play back in MLG, but he's been really bad overall. But considering how little jungler presence hsgg has, jiji's already passive midlane play, just gets magnified even more. Jiji needs to go back to playing TF, and anivia.


Because while Saint may be an asshole he is a solid jungle and has a solid understanding of the game. Plus he actually WANTS to win and get better and his dominating attitude is good to drive people. People pointed to elements looking better and that was after Saint drunk called him out in front of basically the whole community.

Saint's attitude can be toxic at times, but tbh, Curse needed their asses kicked by St.V to get them going. now St.V need to force westrice to be good.
liftlift > tsm
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
October 04 2012 22:09 GMT
#2629
On October 05 2012 07:07 Chexx wrote:
Can someboday say how the game Frost vs. iG was? Was ist close or Frost dominated?

Definitely worth watching
+ Show Spoiler +
was close
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
October 04 2012 22:09 GMT
#2630
crazy picks stronk
RIP KT.Violet
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 22:09:45
October 04 2012 22:09 GMT
#2631
On October 05 2012 07:07 Chexx wrote:
Can someboday say how the game Frost vs. iG was? Was ist close or Frost dominated?


It was very close, back and forth, crazy shit.
Remember Violet.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 04 2012 22:09 GMT
#2632
On October 05 2012 07:08 -_- wrote:
holy schamole 200k viewers. i'm tuning in, but i wonder if i'll be able to understand anything because i don't play LoL.

feel free to ask questions, we won't bite!
liftlift > tsm
henrikyo
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway755 Posts
October 04 2012 22:09 GMT
#2633
These keys to the game are stupid

"suprise with crazy picks"

...
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 04 2012 22:09 GMT
#2634
On October 05 2012 07:07 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:
On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy.

this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day.....


They won't. CLG and TSM both picked up B teams after seeing how hard Azubu Frost and Blaze dominated. They then proceeded to scirm their B teams every so often instead of utilizing their B teams as 24/7 scrim partners. TSM.evo and CLG.black just became scrub teams to give CLG/TSM more exposure.

Just like other eSports the NA scene will likely fade away. A few players might be good and dedicated enough to create a solid roster that can rival European and Asian teams.

For right now, the NA scene is definitely still relevant. But in a year or two they're going to be the jokes of tournaments like this. I mean, CLG, TSM, and Dignitas look pretty close in skill when they play each other. Watching CLG against iG and Frost was horrific. I don't expect NA to post good results this tournament. I will be shocked if Dig or TSM makes it to semis, much less finals (I guess TSM could go to semis if they get an easier quarter finals opponent, like Dig or CLGeu).


The NA teams are too popular to "fade away" but they won't be competitive at the highest level in the coming years, imo.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
October 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#2635
On October 05 2012 07:08 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 07:08 CROrens wrote:
Hey ppl, why did taipei assassins and team WE deserve a direct place in the quarter finals? are they really that good. Personally id love to see SK CLG and azubu in the quarter...


They won their regionals.


oh so they beat auzubu and IG before? if thats the case then they deserve it i guess
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#2636
On October 05 2012 07:06 TheYango wrote:
So many more cheers for SK.

"iG, don't be flustered by the cheers of the crowd. Remember--the hearts of the entire Chinese-speaking world are behind you."


fk WE
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
October 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#2637
Thanks world finals 54 mins ranked que. And the games besides ig vs AZF were all trash.
Ad augusta per angust
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
October 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#2638
Riot, hire me to write your "Keys to the Game" and script for the intros please~
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14174 Posts
October 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#2639
IG Fighting!

[image loading]
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
October 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#2640
INSTALOCK SHEN FOR PDD HUEHUEHUE
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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