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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 04 2012 22:00 GMT
#2581
On October 05 2012 07:00 XenOmega wrote:
HSGG should have sticked with top lane and looked for a new jungler. His jungling skill is still very poor

HSGG should have just kept Saint and stepped down from the team.
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CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
October 04 2012 22:01 GMT
#2582
so the winners of the qualifiers automatically get seeded to the quarter finals? Dont like that... IMO everyone should have the same odds on the big stage ...
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 04 2012 22:01 GMT
#2583
On October 05 2012 06:58 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
People needs to not read too much into Double's trashtalk. It's just that, talk.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows Frost is terror.

Only thing you should take away from this is that CLG is not A tier material on an international level. And that saddens me. ;;

It's not just talk, he calls players trash all the time and not just to build hype. He really believes that almost every AD carry is way below him. And I'm saying this as a dlift fan. I think he is the best AD in the world but he drastically overestimates how much better he is.


Have you talked to him before? >___>
He has an image on the circuit. Sometimes playing the villain is fun. Double knows where he stands tbh.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
October 04 2012 22:01 GMT
#2584
On October 05 2012 06:57 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:
On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy.

this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day.....


You don't say...

How's LA son?

im not there yet. leaving for la in like 2 hour l0l. i need to pick up doods and one noob has work.
GANDHISAUCE
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
October 04 2012 22:01 GMT
#2585
Its like CLG was like "well we 2-0'd them and are winning every lane early on.....time to coast to victory" >_> they have no consistency and fall into tilt mode WAY to easy. Meanwhile DL in a combination of ego and the need to make plays for his team tries to get fancy and gets caught by solid/safe play.
Never Knows Best.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
October 04 2012 22:01 GMT
#2586
On October 05 2012 06:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Chauster needs to reevaluate what he thinks he knows about the game because CLG got outplayed, outthought in every game.

Actually, they got pretty good lanes and a better-looking gameplan vs. iG, but immediately trashed it by Hotshot facechecking the bush at level 1, losing his flash, and Jiji losing his flash immediately after.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
October 04 2012 22:01 GMT
#2587
On October 05 2012 06:58 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Only thing you should take away from this is that CLG is not A tier material on an international level. And that saddens me. ;;


This is true. I'm still always confused why everyone hate on jiji???? Jiji and voyboy only reason to cheer on CLGna.

So disappointing with how they are currently playing

Jiji is a nice guy and I like him so much. But he is the weakest player on CLG, and by far one of the weakest mid lane players in the competitive scene. Mid lane is about tempo control and pressure. Jiji excels at neither of these things. He loses lanes he shouldn't. He can't punish mistakes in lane very well. People can play Karthus mid lane and get free Ults off even though Jiji plays champs with stuns.

Look at how much a player like Nyjacky has improved in Season 2. Everyone has gotten better. Jiji has stayed the same.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 04 2012 22:02 GMT
#2588
On October 05 2012 06:58 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Only thing you should take away from this is that CLG is not A tier material on an international level. And that saddens me. ;;


This is true. I'm still always confused why everyone hate on jiji? Jiji and voyboy only reason to cheer on CLGna.

So disappointed with how they are currently playing


Coming from a big jiji fan, jiji hasn't improved at all since beta/Season 1.

Moon and I were just talking earlier, if jiji improved as much as Nyjacky did this past season, CLG would be a focking terror again.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 04 2012 22:02 GMT
#2589
CLG too dependent on Chauster to make calls. It's already a shit ton of mental power to tell doublelift not to fucking derp up bot lane too fucking hard, all while outplaying botlane. Hsgg/jiji/voyboy, need to fucking learn to make calls in those lanes when shits gunna go down, rather than have Chau act as coach/player for all the plays.

Oh well, better trade St. V.
liftlift > tsm
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
October 04 2012 22:02 GMT
#2590
On October 05 2012 07:00 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
People needs to not read too much into Double's trashtalk. It's just that, talk.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows Frost is terror.

Only thing you should take away from this is that CLG is not A tier material on an international level. And that saddens me. ;;

Well the thing is Hotshot called Frost overrated in that S2 write-up thread. Doublelift is funny to shit on because if someone trash talks and then loses then no one should sympathize. Hotshot smack talking a team is rare though and they got crushed.

My guess is he felt that Frost didn't deserve second on the Power Rank and he though people like CLG.eu and TSM or something deserved higher, rather than Frost being bad (the two are not the same).
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
October 04 2012 22:02 GMT
#2591
On October 05 2012 07:00 XenOmega wrote:
HSGG should have sticked with top lane and looked for a new jungler. His jungling skill is still very poor

his toplane was very bad also. probably one of the worst/smallest champ pool of all pro toplaners.
GANDHISAUCE
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
October 04 2012 22:02 GMT
#2592
I think SK has no chance of beating iG.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
tofubeans
Profile Joined January 2011
United States794 Posts
October 04 2012 22:02 GMT
#2593
On October 05 2012 06:59 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 06:57 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Chauster needs to reevaluate what he thinks he knows about the game because CLG got outplayed, outthought in every game.

exactly what i was thinking. seems like some bad communication and bad calls on CLG's end and i know it's chauster dominating the conversation. either they need to communicate and execute better or chauster has really fallen behind the rest of the world strat wise


who are you rooting for Nony?

any favorites?
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 04 2012 22:03 GMT
#2594
On October 05 2012 06:58 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Only thing you should take away from this is that CLG is not A tier material on an international level. And that saddens me. ;;


This is true. I'm still always confused why everyone hate on jiji? Jiji and voyboy only reason to cheer on CLGna.

So disappointed with how they are currently playing

yea i really feel like jiji is misused by clg. i dont think most of his bad plays are his decision. they should try giving him some more authority to make calls in some scrims and see how that works out
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 04 2012 22:03 GMT
#2595
On October 05 2012 06:58 Kouda wrote:
I think HS and Jiji are overrated. lol. Just drop them already.


they arent overrated... everybody knows they are bad problem is to kick 2 founding members
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
October 04 2012 22:03 GMT
#2596
Thinking about it. Jax with wits+triforce+fullstack passive sounds so intimidating. He attacks so fast and hits so hard it's ridiculous.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
October 04 2012 22:03 GMT
#2597
Westrice is better than HSGG at top lane. Saying HSGG should play top lane or w/e is a bad idea.
thefreed
Profile Joined January 2011
United States222 Posts
October 04 2012 22:03 GMT
#2598
On October 05 2012 06:57 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 06:54 drbrown wrote:
Korean practice mentality simply superior, western teams too lazy.

this 100%. maybe na teams will learn some day.....

They practice about the same times, I think they were really underestimating Frost this time.
Not all Korean players practice hard, that really only applies to star league teams. I've heard a lot of other really good sc2 players say they don't practice that much, but they can still show good results.

It's not how much you practice but how you spend your time I think.
My country is the world, My religion is to do good. -T.P The fool doth thinks his a wise man, but the wise man knows he is a fool. -W.S
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 22:05:01
October 04 2012 22:04 GMT
#2599
Never been a fan of Jiji on Cassi. I think there are much better picks for him.
henrikyo
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway755 Posts
October 04 2012 22:04 GMT
#2600
On October 05 2012 07:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 07:00 XenOmega wrote:
HSGG should have sticked with top lane and looked for a new jungler. His jungling skill is still very poor

HSGG should have just kept Saint and stepped down from the team.

This so much. Saint is a little eager, but as a jungler he is way better then hotshot
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