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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 16 2012 15:49 GMT
#381
Wait, there is a korean restream of this on nicegameTV? D: I wish I realized that!
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 16 2012 15:49 GMT
#382
On August 17 2012 00:47 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
Upside is that teams get their rest and should bring their A game, no excuses.

No mental breakdowns like Crs at IPL.

As if I care about that.
I want my entertainment! :D

Then go and actually play LoL you greedy person
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
August 16 2012 15:50 GMT
#383
On August 17 2012 00:36 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
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On August 17 2012 00:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
I have to say, to Alex Ich's credit, he used Gragas ulti phenomenally. It almost looked like every ulti, he was knocking people into Nunu's ulti.

Redonkulous...

It seems so obvious. Knock people into Nunu's Ult. But then again, why has no one else done this before?

Moscow 5 is just so next level it's not even funny any more.

Cos usually Nunu gets stunned instantly?
If you knock Udyr into Nunu he should just instant cancel it. A support Nunu ulti doesn't even do that much damage anyway.
Alex Ich just made some brilliant moves at the end there, maximising his DPS and dodging anything that came his way.
It was the Gragas instant flash over the wall that made that baron fight so winning. A bunch of Cooldowns were wasted and EH were out of position. The Nunu Ult was just the icing on the cake.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 16 2012 15:52 GMT
#384
Jax missplayed every single teamfight.

It was obvious that the plan was to stun nunu during his channel. But jax always got distracted by yorick/gragas instead.
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
August 16 2012 15:56 GMT
#385
Well, coming from a Magic:The Gathering background, stress and exhaustion are what separates the good players from the bad ones. In bigger tournaments you have around 10 rounds per day, each during 50 minutes. Winning a MTG Championship is like running a marathon against your brain. That really promotes the most prepared and consistent player.
That being said, I can understand that e-Sports, being an entertainment business, wants to bring the best games possible, which is unlikely with players under total stress and exhaustion.
Shadow of his former self.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 16 2012 15:57 GMT
#386
On August 17 2012 00:50 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:36 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
I have to say, to Alex Ich's credit, he used Gragas ulti phenomenally. It almost looked like every ulti, he was knocking people into Nunu's ulti.

Redonkulous...

It seems so obvious. Knock people into Nunu's Ult. But then again, why has no one else done this before?

Moscow 5 is just so next level it's not even funny any more.

Cos usually Nunu gets stunned instantly?
If you knock Udyr into Nunu he should just instant cancel it. A support Nunu ulti doesn't even do that much damage anyway.
Alex Ich just made some brilliant moves at the end there, maximising his DPS and dodging anything that came his way.
It was the Gragas instant flash over the wall that made that baron fight so winning. A bunch of Cooldowns were wasted and EH were out of position. The Nunu Ult was just the icing on the cake.

Nunu Ult'd a fair distance away and then Gragas Ult'd a few of them into it near the end of the channel duration at the Wraith fight. To get to Nunu, EloHell would have had to chew through Gragas+Corki+Shyvana, and they blew a lot of stuff on Yorick in the initial initiate.

Sure, it's not something you'd specifically go out and aim to do when you draft a team composition. But the ability for Moscow 5 to spot these things and make split second decisions and act upon them is really impressive.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 16 2012 15:58 GMT
#387
On August 17 2012 00:56 necrosed wrote:
Well, coming from a Magic:The Gathering background, stress and exhaustion are what separates the good players from the bad ones. In bigger tournaments you have around 10 rounds per day, each during 50 minutes. Winning a MTG Championship is like running a marathon against your brain. That really promotes the most prepared and consistent player.
That being said, I can understand that e-Sports, being an entertainment business, wants to bring the best games possible, which is unlikely with players under total stress and exhaustion.

I remember the BW tournaments, each player had like a month to prepare for a match. It wasn't even a weekend quick.
It's your boy Guzma!
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 16:03:27
August 16 2012 16:00 GMT
#388
On August 17 2012 00:56 necrosed wrote:
Well, coming from a Magic:The Gathering background, stress and exhaustion are what separates the good players from the bad ones. In bigger tournaments you have around 10 rounds per day, each during 50 minutes. Winning a MTG Championship is like running a marathon against your brain. That really promotes the most prepared and consistent player.
That being said, I can understand that e-Sports, being an entertainment business, wants to bring the best games possible, which is unlikely with players under total stress and exhaustion.

To be fair though, MtG is purely mental and with no physical component. Being on a big stage with giant spotlights shining at you also plays a factor. There's not much spectator component in it. And there's also no ban/picks like in LoL. Can you imagine having to, say, play Limited but redraft your deck every single game? You'd wear out very quickly.

I mean, when you saw Curse in the Finals of IPL:Faceoff they were just completely shattered from having to play nearly 11hrs of LoL non-stop. Same goes for CLG at the finals of IPL4. At some point, you just break down and cannot physically handle it any more.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 16:06:41
August 16 2012 16:05 GMT
#389
On August 17 2012 00:58 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:56 necrosed wrote:
Well, coming from a Magic:The Gathering background, stress and exhaustion are what separates the good players from the bad ones. In bigger tournaments you have around 10 rounds per day, each during 50 minutes. Winning a MTG Championship is like running a marathon against your brain. That really promotes the most prepared and consistent player.
That being said, I can understand that e-Sports, being an entertainment business, wants to bring the best games possible, which is unlikely with players under total stress and exhaustion.

I remember the BW tournaments, each player had like a month to prepare for a match. It wasn't even a weekend quick.

A month is an exaggeration, but they certainly had lots more time to prepare between matches. Just look at the Azubu Champions Summer League on Ongamenet. Teams have at least one week between each match over there.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
August 16 2012 16:06 GMT
#390
i like how there's 50k viewers watching people mill about the empty stage where nothing is due to happen today.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 16 2012 16:09 GMT
#391
On August 17 2012 01:00 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:56 necrosed wrote:
Well, coming from a Magic:The Gathering background, stress and exhaustion are what separates the good players from the bad ones. In bigger tournaments you have around 10 rounds per day, each during 50 minutes. Winning a MTG Championship is like running a marathon against your brain. That really promotes the most prepared and consistent player.
That being said, I can understand that e-Sports, being an entertainment business, wants to bring the best games possible, which is unlikely with players under total stress and exhaustion.

To be fair though, MtG is purely mental and with no physical component. Being on a big stage with giant spotlights shining at you also plays a factor. There's not much spectator component in it. And there's also no ban/picks like in LoL. Can you imagine having to, say, play Limited but redraft your deck every single game? You'd wear out very quickly.

I mean, when you saw Curse in the Finals of IPL:Faceoff they were just completely shattered from having to play nearly 11hrs of LoL non-stop. Same goes for CLG at the finals of IPL4. At some point, you just break down and cannot physically handle it any more.

I'm imagining MTG now with a banning phase. The thought is greatly amusing.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 16 2012 16:25 GMT
#392
On August 17 2012 01:06 snow2.0 wrote:
i like how there's 50k viewers watching people mill about the empty stage where nothing is due to happen today.


the probably left all their streams on and went afk yeah but its funny that lol gets those viewernumbers for post day crowdshots while sc2 tournaments are happy to peak at 50k.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
August 16 2012 16:32 GMT
#393
On August 17 2012 01:06 snow2.0 wrote:
i like how there's 50k viewers watching people mill about the empty stage where nothing is due to happen today.

But the music is great... lol
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
crossCak
Profile Joined October 2011
United States20 Posts
August 16 2012 17:02 GMT
#394
Does anyone know if they're going to restream this for those of us who were sleeping while it happened?
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
August 16 2012 17:20 GMT
#395
There are a VODs up for the first 3 games on the ESL LoL Twitch channel. I assume the 4th game will be up soon.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 16 2012 18:06 GMT
#396
so how did shushei go from carrying the season 1 winning team to this
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22434 Posts
August 16 2012 18:07 GMT
#397
On August 17 2012 03:06 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so how did shushei go from carrying the season 1 winning team to this


The same reason a lot of other season 1 and pre season pros are now considered "bad".
The scene improved and they didnt.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 16 2012 22:58 GMT
#398
On August 17 2012 03:07 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 03:06 zulu_nation8 wrote:
so how did shushei go from carrying the season 1 winning team to this


The same reason a lot of other season 1 and pre season pros are now considered "bad".
The scene improved and they didnt.

Somehow ironic that Shushei gets destroyed by the very champion he originally becamse famous for.

As for AP Eve, really nice to see them trying something different. If this actually picks up and becomes FotM, I can say I was running this shit long before Shushei did. (Not that he did well on it, so maybe people will think it's bad? I dunno.)

Even though he did lose pretty badly I'm mroe inclined to think it's because of M5 being M5 and less because Eve is a bad pick....
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 17 2012 00:04 GMT
#399
ESL Restream is live for those who missed today's games.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
August 17 2012 01:38 GMT
#400
Is OP updated? I read that nunu top and eve mid were played. Can someone spoil the result for me? Thanks!
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