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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Its like seeing some scientists measured something that is faster than light once and going around calling Einstein obsolete... | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Then you either pick this super op brake-the-meta hero as FP or you ban it. I give up, you guys are worse than LoL.com And almost as dumb. | ||
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henrikyo
Norway755 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:35 petered wrote: I don't think the comp is super OP, just that CLG didn't respond well. I also think banning kog wouldn't fix it, because the comp is not reliant on super long range. They got engaged on effectively plenty of times and just healed/shielded/slowed right through it. Vayne or Corki would work fine imo. Also the lulu+soraka combo is what makes the comp so powerful. Ban just one of those and i think you are all set. That and get an assassin like poppy or akali to burst through the heal. CLG had no burst so their damage got sustained through. You are missing the point. Clg had first ban first pick Ban kogmaw Pick corki Shutdown | ||
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dooraven
Australia2820 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:35 nosliw wrote: Is IPL done for today? Yes. No more games unless they rebroadcast games. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
Most likely because they thought they could beat that comp and/or weren't experienced enough against it. Doublelift played a wider range of AD carries at Hannover than any other AD carry. European or North American. So I highly doubt it was an issue of "Doublelift doesn't feel comfortable on Corki" and more an issue of "we think we can beat this comp so we'll let Double run one of his gosu champs." | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
It works better cuz lulu ult isnt cut by ignite and soraka is a stupid champ, but the real key here is that mundo is gonna live through the fight, so koggles is always gonna have,a,tank | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:37 beefhamburger wrote: If Olaf wasn't banned, I think he would be pretty good in catching Kogmaw. Rest of team cant follow through void ooze + lulu slow, kog gets healed/shielded by 3 guys with spells + summoners. dont see an issue. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:37 HazMat wrote: Then you either pick this super op brake-the-meta hero as FP or you ban it. I give up, you guys are worse than LoL.com That's faulty thinking though. Their picks WERE working the second game. Changing your team's playstyle LAST minute is the worst thing you can do in a tournament game. Either way, CLG didn't do much to counter the team comp. I was expecting at least one more ignite, or even an EC to be picked up. | ||
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henrikyo
Norway755 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:38 dooraven wrote: To be perfectly honest, I prefer watching those comps than watching CLG's boring AFK farmfests into lategame. True, the one strat CLG knows is, split push. And they did that in quarterfinals. They seriously need to learn other things. They did the same vs m5 some months ago, and got shutdown | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:31 BlackMagister wrote: CLG wasted a ban on Olaf and potentially Ryze. Or am I missing something? Did Dig do well with Olaf in game one or a previous series? Technically Olaf was in the Mm game 3 where Dig made the first epic comeback with Raka mid. | ||
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:35 nojitosunrise wrote: no because people are misunderstanding how this comp works. This is just a glorified protect the kog comp. why did the same thing work with Corki then? I have to disagree with you =P Lulu got like 10 kills that game where as kogmaw only got 1. Dignitas was winning fights when Kogmaw had only triple dorans and Zeal, and Vayne had a bloodthirster+zeal. Soraka and Lulu pretty much just walked into the middle of the enemy team and raped people. Ofc lategame it was all kogmaw. I think it's more of a "stall until our AD is farmed because we can with our teamfight potential" composition | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:38 Two_DoWn wrote: Lulu isnt the key to this comp. Mundo is. The ability to completely tank everything thrown at him thanks to all the heal and whatnot while kog does his thing. Dig could run janna mid and a random top and the result would be largely the same. By ensuring mundo gets a full ult dig has essentially 2 fed tanks. It works better cuz lulu ult isnt cut by ignite and soraka is a stupid champ, but the real key here is that mundo is gonna live through the fight, so koggles is always gonna have,a,tank Yeah, we've pretty much seen this like every kogmaw game so far. It's kogmaw + mundo, and sometimes even mundo + olaf which is even more terrifying. Soraka + Kogmaw + Mundo have been stomping so hard this tournament and not getting banned. | ||
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
If nothing else, I would be shocked if her ult didn't wind up affected by Ignite. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:40 tobi9999 wrote: why did the same thing work with Corki then? I have to disagree with you =P Lulu got like 10 kills that game where as kogmaw only got 1. Dignitas was winning fights when Kogmaw had only triple dorans and Zeal, and Vayne had a bloodthirster+zeal. Soraka and Lulu pretty much just walked into the middle of the enemy team and raped people. Ofc lategame it was all kogmaw. I think it's more of a "stall until our AD is farmed because we can with our teamfight potential" composition the only reason soraka/lulu got kills was because of kog softening up everyone If you ban kog and pick corki...dig's comp doesn't work anymore no other AD carry can do what those two can | ||
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StUfF
Australia1437 Posts
On April 07 2012 12:26 Frolossus wrote: run executioners or ignite on the jungler and top lane be super aggressive counter jungling early game You don't just counter jungle mundo. Yeh, CLG's picks were terrible. Anivia? You have 3 melee heroes yourself, you'll most likely zone your team mates than the enemy team. Picking 3 melee heroes into Lulu/Soraka/Janna? Perma slow, knockup, pushback. Vayne I understand I guess, pick the other hyper carry to compete late game vs Kog. GP? CLG loves the splitpush/farming strat I guess, just a default pick that didn't really contribute at all to the game. I guess alistar/vayne was suppose to be a kill lane vs kog'maw but lots of early game lane switching denied them that until it was too late. Not even trying to contest dragon, as per normal, 3-4 dragons taken for free. The one teamfight at baron was pretty bad. They could have waited a bit longer for Vayne to get there from bot lane, damage was split the melee all rushed in onto Kog and just couldn't even get close to killing him, Vayne can't get close or just gets hammered, forced to attack Soraka who has massive armor from heal + frozen heart. Damage split all around and no one from DIG dies. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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