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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2021
CLG wasted a ban on Olaf and potentially Ryze. Or am I missing something? Did Dig do well with Olaf in game one or a previous series?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2022
It's not lulu, zilean does the same thing with a kog.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2023
On April 07 2012 12:28 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:27 dukethegold wrote:
Can't they just ban Soraka and Lulu in selection and be done with it?

It does mean that they leave up Shen, CassiOPeia, Kennen, Karthus, Lee Sin, Udyr, Janna, Ryze. Can't ban/first pcik them all.


Nidalee healing not as good as Soraka but she works as AP too. And she can mid and top. Kayle not terrible either. If a team wants to run a heal comp it's not like Lulu/Soraka are required champs. They just happen to be really good. You can easily replace one or both of them if that's the kind of comp you wanna run.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2024
On April 07 2012 12:30 Jaso wrote:
Does this mean CLG is out, or do they go into losers' bracket?


Loser Bracket.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2025
On April 07 2012 12:30 Jaso wrote:
Does this mean CLG is out, or do they go into losers' bracket?

Loser's bracket. They face the winner of aAa v Curse.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 03:32:12
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2026
On April 07 2012 12:29 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:28 HazMat wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:26 henrikyo wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:24 wei2coolman wrote:
I blame riot, release new champ, completely breaks meta-game.

Agreed, what is weird is that lol tournaments usually doesnt play with latest update. But lulu is just way to powerful. Got shield like janna, taric like hex/poly. And then the ulti

sighhhhhhhhhhhhh
Voy does good with her in a series, you guys call her broken. If she's really that broken then she would at least be banned once.

Totally agree with you here. Lulu herself is fine. It's just that the overlap of all the heal/protect together is really good. It's the same way AoE Comps work. The AoE alone isn't OP. It's overlapping them all over each other that's an issue.



I think this is not correct. Lulu needs to be slightly nerfed considering she was 1v2ing almost against most team comps just fine. This is a "support" who handles solo lanes easily. Even most designed top laners can't do that without trouble. There's something wrong with that.
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2027
The day has finally come for solo dps rest support combo to rule the game.
Best Teemo World
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2028
New champs are kinda like new maps in SC2. Something to learn to play as and against. Usually some strat comes out early that will pick up a few easier wins then people know how to deal with it.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2029
Ok, my hopes for CLG have not died yet :o
derp
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2030
Do they play the finals too? Or is it over for today? I should sleep now. z_z
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2031
On April 07 2012 12:30 Jaso wrote:
Does this mean CLG is out, or do they go into losers' bracket?

they go into the losers' bracket
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 03:32:25
April 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#2032
On April 07 2012 12:30 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:28 HazMat wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:26 henrikyo wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:24 wei2coolman wrote:
I blame riot, release new champ, completely breaks meta-game.

Agreed, what is weird is that lol tournaments usually doesnt play with latest update. But lulu is just way to powerful. Got shield like janna, taric like hex/poly. And then the ulti

sighhhhhhhhhhhhh
Voy does good with her in a series, you guys call her broken. If she's really that broken then she would at least be banned once.

I don't think anyone is calling her op'd, but her abilities exponentially increases the strength of this specific team comp, she's the missing key to the puzzle of "protect the hyper carry"

People are calling her OP but whatever. No need to argue, people are just butthurt CLG lost lul.
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Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
April 07 2012 03:32 GMT
#2033
On April 07 2012 12:31 Alaric wrote:
Do they play the finals too? Or is it over for today? I should sleep now. z_z


Semifinals tomorrow
Finals on Sunday
derp
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
April 07 2012 03:32 GMT
#2034
On April 07 2012 12:28 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:27 dukethegold wrote:
Can't they just ban Soraka and Lulu in selection and be done with it?

It does mean that they leave up Shen, CassiOPeia, Kennen, Karthus, Lee Sin, Udyr, Janna, Ryze. Can't ban/first pcik them all.

Seems like a better idea than dealing with the 1 tank 3 support 1 hyper ad carry meta.

Or as somebody else stated, ban kog/corki and then take the other one.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
April 07 2012 03:32 GMT
#2035
Is IPL Done for today?
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
April 07 2012 03:32 GMT
#2036
CLG didn't really try to counter ban or counter pick the strategy. I guess we can't blame them since they didn't really have enough time to think about how to counter it, but IMO letting dig play the same shit again was just pointless and stupid
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7226 Posts
April 07 2012 03:32 GMT
#2037
I think this comp is going to see some nerfs soon.
日本語が分かりますか
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
April 07 2012 03:32 GMT
#2038
On April 07 2012 12:30 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:28 henrikyo wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:27 nojitosunrise wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:24 henrikyo wrote:
What mindblows me, is why CLG didnt ban kogmaw, soraka or lulu. After seeing quarter finals and semis now.

I dont understand it.

Diginitas banned shen which clg had great sucess with in quarters. so ye



banning kog and taking corki destroys dig's team comp

(no other champions work as damage dealers)

YEP!

And they had first pick and ban, so i dont get it all.

If TSM just do this, they are set.


CLG fails hard in the picks/bans

Unfortunately so does TSM. If TSM lets dig get Kog'Maw then it'll just be IEM Kiev all over again. I think that comp is a lot weaker when they run Corki, so just keeping Dignitas from getting Kog would give them a huge advantage.
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 03:33:29
April 07 2012 03:33 GMT
#2039
On April 07 2012 12:29 Zhiroo wrote:
I think all you've got to do is ban Soraka and/or Lulu and it would be way easier to handle.


you dont need to ban the supports if you ban the carries they are supporting, if you are first pick you ban corki take kogmaw

if you are second pick you take taric lulu in your first 2 picks and your opponent can at most get soraka jana kogmaw at which point you go AD heavy since you've taken away your opponent's armor aura. Or ban both kogmaw and corki
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
April 07 2012 03:33 GMT
#2040
On April 07 2012 12:30 daemir wrote:
Ignite

Executioner

there's solutions to heal comps, but if the team is too stubborn to explore them because it's not something they usually do, well...


They also have shields, passive mr + armor, and lulu's ult gives straight up HP, not a heal.
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