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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 07 2012 03:49 GMT
#2101
On April 07 2012 12:49 BlackMagister wrote:
Kind of weird to see them interview the losers. LoL seems pretty chill compared to SC2 pros remembering. I suppose because the blame for the loss is spread between five people.

It's not interview, its SOTL.
liftlift > tsm
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
April 07 2012 03:49 GMT
#2102
On April 07 2012 12:47 BlackMagister wrote:
Eh simply changing the Olaf ban to Kogmaw would have significantly changed the game. There is no other AD that really has comps based around protecting them.

Ryze has good damage and a snare to support Kog, but you have to consider would he have been better in this comp than Soraka? Soraka of course has the very large heals to support Kog. Though I wonder if Morganna would be another possible AP to support Kog.


Zilean as well. =P
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 03:53:15
April 07 2012 03:50 GMT
#2103
On April 07 2012 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:49 BlackMagister wrote:
Kind of weird to see them interview the losers. LoL seems pretty chill compared to SC2 pros remembering. I suppose because the blame for the loss is spread between five people.

It's not interview, its SOTL.

Where he talks to the players about their games. Also called an interview... But yeah I guess you're right, they see it as a chill environment.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 03:52:20
April 07 2012 03:51 GMT
#2104
On April 07 2012 12:47 BlackMagister wrote:
Eh simply changing the Olaf ban to Kogmaw would have significantly changed the game. There is no other AD that really has comps based around protecting them.

Except dignitas did pretty much the same (without lulu, so 2 support, soraka+taric) in an earlier game where Corki was the carry who won them the game despite them being 14k (!) gold behind (don't think I ever saw a game where a team was 50% gold behind, 28k-42k and still won). So you see it's not that reliant on any one champion (except maybe soraka mid).
here i am
henrikyo
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway755 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 03:53:57
April 07 2012 03:53 GMT
#2105
THERE U HER IT, like i said, lulu is broken

as i said:

She has

q: slow
w: on ally (movement speed + ap) on enemy (poly)
e: on ally (pix ally + shield) on enemy (pix attacks them and grants vision)
r: 800 extra health and slow to all surround enemies

What champion has all that? O_O
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 07 2012 03:53 GMT
#2106
They banned Corki. What other AD besides Corki and Kog could you build a protect comp around?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 07 2012 03:55 GMT
#2107
Vayne and trist
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 03:56:30
April 07 2012 03:55 GMT
#2108
On April 07 2012 12:53 BlackMagister wrote:
They banned Corki. What other AD besides Corki and Kog could you build a protect comp around?


Vayne. Tristana. Twitch.

All do crazy damage late game. All are hard to kill if you build a team around protecting them.

Honestly Trist is probably way safer than Kog/Corki in that comp too. Does less damage than Kog but probably close to as much damage as Corki (just not as much burst but dat 90% AS increase is a lot more dps than Corki's 10% true damage).
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
April 07 2012 03:56 GMT
#2109
LOL SCARRA JOINS CLG SO HAPPY.
derp
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
April 07 2012 03:56 GMT
#2110
No Doublelift you didn't even outplay them.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 07 2012 03:56 GMT
#2111
Lololololo I <3 scarra's comment

"only soloing soraka so she gets nerfed so i never can see her again"
liftlift > tsm
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 03:57:21
April 07 2012 03:56 GMT
#2112
I think you need a long range poke as well to make it work.

Hotshot most eloquent speaker lol.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 07 2012 03:56 GMT
#2113
travis: let's bring out the wide camera

THEN SCARRA

ps lub scarra he's a really sweet guy
:)
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
April 07 2012 03:56 GMT
#2114
Told you moonbear. Scarra hates playing soraka mid and just wants her nerfed lol.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#2115
WE THREW HARDER
NO WE DID
NO WE SUCK
NO WE SUCK MORE
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#2116
On April 07 2012 12:56 Zhiroo wrote:
No Doublelift you didn't even outplay them.

are you fucking kidding me? He was WAY positive the last 2 games. I didn't see first game.

DL never got caught once, was constantly doing damage, this was byfar the strongest I've seen DL play.
liftlift > tsm
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#2117
On April 07 2012 12:41 nojitosunrise wrote:
the only reason soraka/lulu got kills was because of kog softening up everyone

If you ban kog and pick corki...dig's comp doesn't work anymore

no other AD carry can do what those two can


I don't really think the poke is the main issue of this team comp. It's the fact nobody dies. In most fights, most champions will be able to use all their abilites once or twice. If you're able to pick off one or more people that less abilities (whether offensive or defensive) you're having to worry about. With the amount of heals/shield it doesn't matter who CLG focuses they'll expend too many abilities for an uneven trade. I can see this comp working on other AD carries that scale well such as Trist or Vayne. They might need to tweak how team fights go but just the constant damage output with very little fear of dying is how the hyper carry strat works. So picking or banning out kog or corki IMO isn't the solution, it's the soraka and lulu. But then you leave other champs such as Ryze up for grabs.

I don't think ignite/executioner's calling is the total counter either as mentioned Lulu's ult and shields aren't effected.
henrikyo
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway755 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#2118
What did scarra said about soraka? lol
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#2119
On April 07 2012 12:40 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:35 nojitosunrise wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:34 tobi9999 wrote:
We can easily guess on how TSM is going to deal with this.

I predict that Chaox picks MF for the healing debuff. Reginald will no doubt pick something that counters Soraka. He should know how to since he's played it himself unlike Jiji.

Then Dyrus and Oddone will copy M5 and try to shut down mundo really hard.

The question is will it work?


no because people are misunderstanding how this comp works.

This is just a glorified protect the kog comp.

why did the same thing work with Corki then?

I have to disagree with you =P Lulu got like 10 kills that game where as kogmaw only got 1. Dignitas was winning fights when Kogmaw had only triple dorans and Zeal, and Vayne had a bloodthirster+zeal.

Soraka and Lulu pretty much just walked into the middle of the enemy team and raped people. Ofc lategame it was all kogmaw.

I think it's more of a "stall until our AD is farmed because we can with our teamfight potential" composition

Who gets the kill isn't relevant to who is actually doing most of the damage. Kog stays in the back, dealing most damage, Soraka heals and shreds them with starcall (she has to be in the middle of the fight to make that really effective), Support helps protect Kog and Mundo soaks up all the damage, leaving Lulu to hunt them down and finish them off when they get out of the battle with little health left.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 07 2012 03:59 GMT
#2120
Dyrus' Soraka was better than Froggen lol. Adding to the Soraka is dumb but good.
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