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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 31 2012 18:11 GMT
#361
On February 01 2012 03:09 DanielZKlein wrote:
Wickd not leaving his lane. Could have come down and help. Was the top tower worth it?

Taking the tower against a pusher like Shyvana is a very good trade, it gives as much gold and if Shyvana wants to clear fast and get map control she'll have to push the lane back to tower and be very fragile to ganks.

It's not like taking the tower of a Nasus or of an Irelia, and this was really a good trade for CLG.
The legend of Darien lives on
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 31 2012 18:12 GMT
#362
well that's probably it. Irelia will snowball hard now
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 31 2012 18:12 GMT
#363
Wickd tearing shit up.

Irelia 3-0, time to steamroll.
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
January 31 2012 18:13 GMT
#364
Mundo failing some, CLG.EU playing well vs M5, as they have done repeatedly in scrims. Nice matchup ^_^
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 31 2012 18:13 GMT
#365
40 cs lead for bot though. They need to learn to ban sona.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 31 2012 18:13 GMT
#366
And thats why even if shyv is a decent pusher, she just isnt worth the damage you give up. Ire is dominating fights while shyv is basically only good for absorption, not good when you dont have an actual damage source from mid or the jungle.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
l3ird
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States368 Posts
January 31 2012 18:14 GMT
#367
I was just about the note the scrims (CLG super good vs m5).. but i think m5 is going to play a little differently in game 2!
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 31 2012 18:14 GMT
#368
Yea now top lane definately is gonna go poor for darien as wickd got all those kills, but imagine without those kills, does that lane not remind a lot what happened to TRM?
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 31 2012 18:14 GMT
#369
is shyvanna really freely pushing or is wickd letting him cause everytime he pushes then leaves lane to try and counter snoopeh and froggen attempt to gank him let they are baiting him
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
January 31 2012 18:15 GMT
#370
RE that Mundo play at the beginning of the game:

Against what team would this ever be a good idea? You have CV so you know that Maokai is doing the standard path and will be down at his bottom jungle by the time you get there. Sure, level 2 Mundo with red beats level 2 Maokai with just blue, but that's assuming that the lanes just stand there and watch you 1v1 in their jungle which is never going to happen in a high level tournament game.

I have no problems with him threatening it. Go in there, delay Snoopeh a little bit, that's fine. Sticking around and then trying to steal their red was a bad idea.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 31 2012 18:15 GMT
#371
that ward in the bush is super invisible.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 31 2012 18:17 GMT
#372
is wriggles on AD carries standard now?
liftlift > tsm
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
January 31 2012 18:17 GMT
#373
On February 01 2012 03:14 NotSorry wrote:
is shyvanna really freely pushing or is wickd letting him cause everytime he pushes then leaves lane to try and counter snoopeh and froggen attempt to gank him let they are baiting him


I think wickd isn't pushing it too much because CLG is blue side. There's not too much to steal even if wickd lets him push to tower and everytime they go for blue CLG ends up winning. Anivia's build is tears, revolver and spirit visage
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 31 2012 18:18 GMT
#374
huh Zeal before BF sword for MF.

3 dblade + wriggle + zeal...that's going to be one late IE.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 31 2012 18:18 GMT
#375
On February 01 2012 03:17 wei2coolman wrote:
is wriggles on AD carries standard now?

Varies from carry to carry. If you really want to win lane, you build it like that.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 31 2012 18:18 GMT
#376
On February 01 2012 03:17 wei2coolman wrote:
is wriggles on AD carries standard now?

Its what EU's do. Its safest, but also really slow.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 31 2012 18:19 GMT
#377
And froggen has one again made my mind explode with his build.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 31 2012 18:19 GMT
#378
wow, really? spirit visage on anivia? wtf? i understand it synergizes well with wota, but really?
liftlift > tsm
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 31 2012 18:20 GMT
#379
Sivir is gonna stomp MF in the mid game though.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 18:22:21
January 31 2012 18:21 GMT
#380
how is spirit visage going to benefit him when he could buy "better" things for the same money? his spellvamp isn't even that high

edit: was that sivir ult intended?
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