[MLG] Providence Discussion - Page 37
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:22 Brees wrote: anyone have any ideas as to why I can't view the stream? dont have adblock. it simply never loads for me If you're running NoScript or anything similar, it might be filtering the connection. Try Chrome no extensions? | ||
red_b
United States1267 Posts
coming in third at MLG is basically the same as coming in last. just hope to see a good finals now. | ||
Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:24 red_b wrote: very happy to see dignatas lose. coming in third at MLG is basically the same as coming in last. just hope to see a good finals now. Yep the bad guys are out of it. I like both TSM and Epic so either winner would be fine by me. Just gonna relax and hope for 7 games. | ||
Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:23 Zdrastochye wrote: Where's the yt clip of ashe + nunu bot with nunu getting the full ult off on three of them? it's in the funny lol pics thread | ||
emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:21 rigwarl wrote: Almost all pros use that build, as to "why pick Skarner", a flash -> drag puts him closer so it's essentially equivalent to your whole team flashing on the target (as opposed to say a flash Sona ult). Maybe both Jatt and OddOne use it, but that doesn't mean they're not wasting the character, it means they're too lazy to realize that maybe they shouldn't build him like they do Maokai/Nunu/etc | ||
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:30 mustaju wrote: Where can a noob like me watch these games after they were played? In the stream, next to the quality option is the VoDs option. Should be there. | ||
Khorin
Poland21 Posts
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NoobieOne
United States1183 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:30 mustaju wrote: Where can a noob like me watch these games after they were played? http://mlgprovidence.leagueoflegends.com/ | ||
emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:22 Brees wrote: anyone have any ideas as to why I can't view the stream? dont have adblock. it simply never loads for me same problem here wdf | ||
Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:29 Seiuchi wrote: Maybe both Jatt and OddOne use it, but that doesn't mean they're not wasting the character, it means they're too lazy to realize that maybe they shouldn't build him like they do Maokai/Nunu/etc Why do you think they are wasting the character?They need something specific so they get it.Don't see how that is wasting a character. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:17 Seiuchi wrote: Why even pick Skarner if you're going to go double gp10 and Aegis? Just pick Rammus or something. Completely waste what he scales on or what he's good at. At least Zil pick makes sense if he goes Triforce+Wit's carry Skarner. Aegis is EXTREMELY high value in arranged team situations, even on "carry" junglers. I think I've seen Saint buy Aegis 100% of the time on Trundle, for example, in tournament games. Definitely can't fault him for buying Aegis. As far as Wriggle's vs. double gp10, the value is quite similar--with one or the other being better based on how much time you get to farm jungle vs. needing to help your lanes (which were all in pretty rough shape on Dignitas' side). The fact that Jatt didn't get to build damage after that is arguably more because of how behind Dignitas was at that point, and not the fact that he chose to build gp10/Aegis first. If he cookie-cuttered into a Wriggles->DPS item build, he would have died every fight before being able to do any damage. On November 21 2011 07:32 Brees wrote: in what real competitive game is a jungler gonna triforce and wit's end and carry? by the time he has those items everyone else has full build. jungling is very different in competitive from solo q...you are basically also support in most cases. unless you farm all day like saintvicious Even Saint knows his limits when his team is losing. When CLG is behind, he knows when has to tank out and skip on damage. | ||
rigwarl
United States540 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:29 Seiuchi wrote: Maybe both Jatt and OddOne use it, but that doesn't mean they're not wasting the character, it means they're too lazy to realize that maybe they shouldn't build him like they do Maokai/Nunu/etc The next tankiest champ on their team was GP who built Bloodthirster first (or maybe Zil with RoA? not sure which one of those wins lol), so if Skarner didn't build tanking karthus/tristana can literally A move into Dignitas and kill whoever they want. | ||
Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:32 Brees wrote: in what real competitive game is a jungler gonna triforce and wit's end and carry? by the time he has those items everyone else has full build. jungling is very different in competitive from solo q...you are basically also support in most cases. unless you farm all day like saintvicious If you're picking Skarner, you should be farming all day honestly. Skarner's stronger late game than anything else that team had lategame. A fed Skarner's going to do more in a teamfight than a fed plank or a fed Ez, especially with Zilean ult. Maybe it's because I've learned a lot about jungling from watching Saint, but you're wasting Skarner if you play him in a support role. It's like how I believe supportish Noct was dumb and farm all day Noct was superior in every case. If you're going to play jungle like OddOne or Jatt do you just shouldn't pick some junglers. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 21 2011 07:38 Seiuchi wrote: Maybe it's because I've learned a lot about jungling from watching Saint, but you're wasting Skarner if you play him in a support role. It's like how I believe supportish Noct was dumb and farm all day Noct was superior in every case. If you're going to play jungle like OddOne or Jatt do you just shouldn't pick some junglers. Are you watching Saint in solo queue or in scrims/tournament games? Because even Saint in competitive situation builds defensively, tanks out, and buys supportive defense items like Aegis. You can't build the way you would in solo queue in competitive games. | ||
tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
if you put all the gold he had into that game into damage items, he would've have wriggles, triforce and merc treads at the end of the game. he would have died in less than 5 hits to tristana, wouldn't be able to take q's from karthus without having to heal. etcetc.... only saintvicious builds skarner dps OddOne in all him games of skarner (solo queue though) goes wriggles -> boots -> hog -> mercs -> shurelias -> aegis/randuins | ||
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