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taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
November 20 2011 23:09 GMT
#761
On November 21 2011 08:09 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:07 taLbuk wrote:
though naniwa's run is very impressive i can't help but think how much easier it must be on the mind to only have to win 4 series instead of 10 like nestea mvp and someone like leenock

i think regardless of how this ends mvp and leenock have the most impressive runs this tournament

Wrong thread


haha thanks i got both threads open! gotta post it in the right one now :X
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 20 2011 23:09 GMT
#762
On November 21 2011 08:08 triangle wrote:
What's with Xpecial not playing Alistar anymore?

Sona + Soraka #1 heals. Too powerful to deal with pokes.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 23:16:19
November 20 2011 23:10 GMT
#763
On November 21 2011 08:05 Seiuchi wrote:
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On November 21 2011 08:03 rigwarl wrote:
And again, the 2nd/3rd tankiest people on the team were RoA Zil and Bloodthirster GP. You want to build Skarner with practically no defense other than a measly amount of health and some MR too? Really?


My question, is if everyone's saying WHY WOULD SKARNER BUILD DAMAGE HE NEEDS TANK TO LIVE why you aren't similarly railing on Voyboy for not rushing Warmog's like is standard, instead of rushing BT.

Because Voy saw enough farm to tank out after that.

If you see enough farm to get both survivability and damage, you do both. If you're obviously going to only see enough money to do one or the other (and the amount of gold that Jatt got that game was very clearly only enough for one), building only survivability on a bruiser is generally better than building only damage.

On November 21 2011 08:08 Seiuchi wrote:
The 23 AD with repeated crystal slashes is probably going to add up to more damage than 8 to 3 people because of how much you can spam it, especially since GP had no AS.

Not when you factor in that Skarner won't do any damage until he's in melee (and will therefore probably die faster than Ezreal and GP), while GP and Ezreal can poke and kite.

On November 21 2011 08:08 Seiuchi wrote:
Also the Lantern's going to help Skarner do more early game and gives him a chance at completely the Atmog's.

Again, that depends on how much time he gets to farm jungle vs. gank lanes. You have to have enough breathing room to afk-farm jungle for Wriggle's to match the gold generation of double gp10. And all of Jatt's lanes (especially mid) needed way too much help.
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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
November 20 2011 23:10 GMT
#764
Dyrus+Singed=win
hi
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 20 2011 23:10 GMT
#765
alistar got nerfed

he did need them though
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 20 2011 23:11 GMT
#766
On November 21 2011 08:08 triangle wrote:
What's with Xpecial not playing Alistar anymore?

no more kogmaw meta =)
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
November 20 2011 23:11 GMT
#767
How would Yorick fare against Zilean?(I don't play either)
Dyrus absolutely hates playing Singed against Ryze.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 20 2011 23:11 GMT
#768
Refreshed because my stream was 5 minutes behind or so and now it won't load
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 20 2011 23:11 GMT
#769
wooow salce's zilean is really really scaryyyyyy
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 20 2011 23:12 GMT
#770
I guess it doesn't matter what game it is. LR threads seem pretty similar between LoL and BW.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 20 2011 23:12 GMT
#771
On November 21 2011 08:12 koreasilver wrote:
I guess it doesn't matter what game it is. LR threads seem pretty similar between LoL and BW.

SC2 threads still a complete mess though.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 20 2011 23:13 GMT
#772
SC2 has alot drama this time lol
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 20 2011 23:13 GMT
#773
On November 21 2011 08:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:05 Seiuchi wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:03 rigwarl wrote:
And again, the 2nd/3rd tankiest people on the team were RoA Zil and Bloodthirster GP. You want to build Skarner with practically no defense other than a measly amount of health and some MR too? Really?


My question, is if everyone's saying WHY WOULD SKARNER BUILD DAMAGE HE NEEDS TANK TO LIVE why you aren't similarly railing on Voyboy for not rushing Warmog's like is standard, instead of rushing BT.

Because Voy saw enough farm to tank out after that.

If you see enough farm to get both survivability and damage, you do both. If you're obviously going to only see enough money to do one or the other (and the amount of gold that Jatt saw that game was very clearly only enough for one), building only survivability on a bruiser is generally better than building only damage.


actually, Voyboy building bloodthirster was very bad.


IMO, that back after he got 2 kills at dragon where he bought a BF sword wasn't a smart choice. He should've either gotten wriggles, sheen, phage, giant's belt, and/or another gp5 item.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 20 2011 23:17 GMT
#774
Yorrick Mid v Singed, Ryze v Zilean top. Ooh.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 20 2011 23:18 GMT
#775
On November 21 2011 08:12 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:12 koreasilver wrote:
I guess it doesn't matter what game it is. LR threads seem pretty similar between LoL and BW.

SC2 threads still a complete mess though.

I like to pretend that part of the forum doesn't exist.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 20 2011 23:19 GMT
#776
Rammus rolls in bot, taunt on Ez. Flashes used, Taric stuns, they barely dive tower and Vayne takes first blood on Ezrael.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
November 20 2011 23:20 GMT
#777
First blood to vayne yikes. Salce dies to reginald after oddone gank.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 20 2011 23:21 GMT
#778
not good for TSM
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
November 20 2011 23:21 GMT
#779
5 mins in and Chaox has been ganked:
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Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 20 2011 23:21 GMT
#780
Mid and top lanes swap back to their proper lanes.
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