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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 21 2011 02:54 GMT
#1021
On November 21 2011 11:51 DarkRise wrote:
Are vods up?


http://mlgprovidence.leagueoflegends.com/
VoDs in the lower right
Day 2/3 League of Legends is at the bottom of the list
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G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
November 21 2011 03:43 GMT
#1022
Epik's biggest mistake was not banning Maokai. In the final game, Maokai destroyed so much of Karthus and Vlad's damage.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 05:13:36
November 21 2011 05:12 GMT
#1023
So do LoL tournament results also have the effect where the builds or in this case champions used on the ladder change after a tournament? More Lebanc, Maokai, Yorick, Rammus, etc. Anyone that wasn't used before more used now if they were used a lot in MLG.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
November 21 2011 05:16 GMT
#1024
Yep, lots of fotm sheep. Yorick and Rammus are pretty standard picks already though and I don't really expect LeBlanc to jump in popularity. Maokai probably will though now that TheOddOne's won a tournament using it, he was already on peoples' radar thanks to chu8.
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
November 21 2011 05:23 GMT
#1025
On November 21 2011 12:43 G3CKO wrote:
Epik's biggest mistake was not banning Maokai. In the final game, Maokai destroyed so much of Karthus and Vlad's damage.

I think their overall team comp in general was pretty lacking (forgivable since you don't get that much time and they were probably focused on lanes)- only AD on the team being the jungler, all 3 lane champs AP with extremely minimal CC makes it near impossible to kill anyone on TSM who all built MR except LeBlanc. The only fight they did decent in (3 for 3) was when TSM fought straight up with their back to blue buff so no kiting and EG got to spam their AoE. Any more mobile situation and they were screwed.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
November 21 2011 05:59 GMT
#1026
On November 21 2011 14:12 BlackMagister wrote:
So do LoL tournament results also have the effect where the builds or in this case champions used on the ladder change after a tournament? More Lebanc, Maokai, Yorick, Rammus, etc. Anyone that wasn't used before more used now if they were used a lot in MLG.


Ya definitely. After Dreamhack there was a huge surge in the number of games where Gragas was picked/banned. After Dignitas beat CLG in the IEM NY Qualifier, there was a huge surge in "non-standard" supports picked, such as GP, Blitz, and Malphite.

I would imagine that you won't see much difference in the ladder after this tournament, since there wasn't anything earth shattering. Yes, Reginald owned with leblanc, and TheOddone did well with Maokai jungle, so you might see a slight increase there but I doubt anything of real significance since those two are already seen a fair amount on the ladder.
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Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
November 21 2011 06:33 GMT
#1027
On November 21 2011 11:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 11:51 DarkRise wrote:
Are vods up?


http://mlgprovidence.leagueoflegends.com/
VoDs in the lower right
Day 2/3 League of Legends is at the bottom of the list


I've been out all day. Can't seem to find the VODs on this link. Just get picks/bans, a bit of a rundown, and screenshots.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
November 21 2011 06:45 GMT
#1028
For those that don't know most (maybe even all) of the Soraka bans were from teams (mainly TSM) when they wanted to run Karthus.

The one thing I don't understand is why Epik banned Trist all 3 games against TSM. Chaox's Trist IS beastly but he's pretty good with other ADs too. The only game where that kinda made sense was when they played Kennen 'cause buster shot is great against Kennen's ult. But was trist really their best ban in the other two games?
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 21 2011 06:56 GMT
#1029
On November 21 2011 15:45 Treadmill wrote:
For those that don't know most (maybe even all) of the Soraka bans were from teams (mainly TSM) when they wanted to run Karthus.

The one thing I don't understand is why Epik banned Trist all 3 games against TSM. Chaox's Trist IS beastly but he's pretty good with other ADs too. The only game where that kinda made sense was when they played Kennen 'cause buster shot is great against Kennen's ult. But was trist really their best ban in the other two games?

Didn't TSM ban Soraka every single game against Epik regardless what they wanted to run? I was under the impression it was cause Nhat plays a really good Soraka.
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
November 21 2011 07:01 GMT
#1030
On November 21 2011 15:33 Darkchylde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 11:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On November 21 2011 11:51 DarkRise wrote:
Are vods up?


http://mlgprovidence.leagueoflegends.com/
VoDs in the lower right
Day 2/3 League of Legends is at the bottom of the list


I've been out all day. Can't seem to find the VODs on this link. Just get picks/bans, a bit of a rundown, and screenshots.


Ah, found it. It's the VOD link in the video window -_-;;
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 21 2011 07:06 GMT
#1031
On November 21 2011 16:01 Darkchylde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 15:33 Darkchylde wrote:
On November 21 2011 11:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On November 21 2011 11:51 DarkRise wrote:
Are vods up?


http://mlgprovidence.leagueoflegends.com/
VoDs in the lower right
Day 2/3 League of Legends is at the bottom of the list


I've been out all day. Can't seem to find the VODs on this link. Just get picks/bans, a bit of a rundown, and screenshots.


Ah, found it. It's the VOD link in the video window -_-;;

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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
November 21 2011 07:12 GMT
#1032
On November 21 2011 15:56 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 15:45 Treadmill wrote:
For those that don't know most (maybe even all) of the Soraka bans were from teams (mainly TSM) when they wanted to run Karthus.

The one thing I don't understand is why Epik banned Trist all 3 games against TSM. Chaox's Trist IS beastly but he's pretty good with other ADs too. The only game where that kinda made sense was when they played Kennen 'cause buster shot is great against Kennen's ult. But was trist really their best ban in the other two games?

Didn't TSM ban Soraka every single game against Epik regardless what they wanted to run? I was under the impression it was cause Nhat plays a really good Soraka.

I don't think that's it. If you look, every single time they banned Soraka they picked Karthus, and every game they didn't pick Karthus they didn't ban Soraka (which against Epik was only their first game on Saturday). They also banned Soraka against Dignitas the time they played Karthus and didn't the game that they didn't.
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
November 21 2011 07:14 GMT
#1033
At first I thought Maokai was pretty bad and did not see anyone use him well. After plugging a good amount of games he is one of my favorites. I have not tried support Maokai which looked like was used in a game or two (haven't caught up on all games yet). Usually go a mix of chu8 way, lately RoA, CD boots, Deathcap, Trinity. Do not always get top, but if I get a chance to farm mid game can make up for duo bot.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 21 2011 12:26 GMT
#1034
On November 21 2011 16:12 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 15:56 Ryuu314 wrote:
On November 21 2011 15:45 Treadmill wrote:
For those that don't know most (maybe even all) of the Soraka bans were from teams (mainly TSM) when they wanted to run Karthus.

The one thing I don't understand is why Epik banned Trist all 3 games against TSM. Chaox's Trist IS beastly but he's pretty good with other ADs too. The only game where that kinda made sense was when they played Kennen 'cause buster shot is great against Kennen's ult. But was trist really their best ban in the other two games?

Didn't TSM ban Soraka every single game against Epik regardless what they wanted to run? I was under the impression it was cause Nhat plays a really good Soraka.

I don't think that's it. If you look, every single time they banned Soraka they picked Karthus, and every game they didn't pick Karthus they didn't ban Soraka (which against Epik was only their first game on Saturday). They also banned Soraka against Dignitas the time they played Karthus and didn't the game that they didn't.


Game 1 of grand finals(game 4 of extended series) they banned Soraka and didn't pick Karthus. To me it feels like there's more a correlation to 'hey we let Nhat have Soraka the first time we played EG, and we lost, and decided that we wanted to ban it from then on.'
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 21 2011 12:29 GMT
#1035
On November 21 2011 16:12 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 15:56 Ryuu314 wrote:
On November 21 2011 15:45 Treadmill wrote:
For those that don't know most (maybe even all) of the Soraka bans were from teams (mainly TSM) when they wanted to run Karthus.

The one thing I don't understand is why Epik banned Trist all 3 games against TSM. Chaox's Trist IS beastly but he's pretty good with other ADs too. The only game where that kinda made sense was when they played Kennen 'cause buster shot is great against Kennen's ult. But was trist really their best ban in the other two games?

Didn't TSM ban Soraka every single game against Epik regardless what they wanted to run? I was under the impression it was cause Nhat plays a really good Soraka.

I don't think that's it. If you look, every single time they banned Soraka they picked Karthus, and every game they didn't pick Karthus they didn't ban Soraka (which against Epik was only their first game on Saturday). They also banned Soraka against Dignitas the time they played Karthus and didn't the game that they didn't.

I'm pretty sure I remember Nhat saying at some point that TSM bans Soraka against them because they know he plays mainly Soraka.
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byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
November 21 2011 13:29 GMT
#1036
well it's probably both that he is a good soraka and that they wanted to run karthus :D
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 13:49:28
November 21 2011 13:49 GMT
#1037
On November 21 2011 10:56 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:51 Shanba wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:50 emucxg wrote:
Therainman's play overrated today...yes he did few good teleports (regi might made that call), but thats it.

the problem is that EG had NO idea how to counter bot lane yorick...

i mean, dat bot lane yorick 2 stronk


I'm not as pro as EG, but imho maybe nasus can counter yorick according to yersterday's games? idunno

Who on EG plays Nasus?

yesterday TSM vs EG game2
Nasus(TheRainMan) raped yorick(Dyrus)

In fact Nasus is just completly imba VS Yorick, because I'm pretty sure he can charge his Q on Yorick's gouls. He goes into his «beast mode let's OS squishies» mode even faster than in a normal lane.
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Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
November 21 2011 22:11 GMT
#1038
Interesting that Sona was played every single game.
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 21 2011 22:32 GMT
#1039
On November 22 2011 07:11 Butterednuts wrote:
Interesting that Sona was played every single game.


Tis because Sona is a beastly champion... AOE dance + so much sustain + great auras
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 21 2011 22:38 GMT
#1040
For the last few months Sona has pretty much never been banned and has been played in almost every single tournament level game. It's pretty funny.
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