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[Patch 5.17] League of Draven Patch Discussion - Page 9

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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 10 2015 09:38 GMT
#161
Just do it in customs a few times first, if you mess up that's RIP lane right there. The last ranged creep can be a bitch and deaggro if you move away too fast.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 10 2015 10:13 GMT
#162
Yeah and there's always a chance he's not doing wolves, he's just late to lane, and then you're pushed as fuk from minute one :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
September 10 2015 18:07 GMT
#163
its extra good on garen because passive doeesnt drop and you can keep it up another 30 seconds lol
scip fucked it up you only have to wait until ranged creeps are in tower range
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
September 12 2015 04:15 GMT
#164
Pretty interesting bug with the Wolf camp. I'd love to see this get practical use to see how effective it could be.

Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 12 2015 05:08 GMT
#165
There's no way they won't fix that.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 09:25:08
September 12 2015 09:18 GMT
#166
On September 10 2015 18:13 Scip wrote:
errr easier to show than to explain
+ Show Spoiler +

something like this but probably don't need to tank nearly as much damage if you do it properly


Goddamn that seems like an awesome way to punish somebody who's starting a camp. Pretty much zeroes out the exp advantage, and you get a gold advantage.

Also I spend way too much on this game. Bought 100 bucks of RP early on this year and I'm just about out.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 14:19:47
September 12 2015 13:49 GMT
#167
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 12 2015 14:03 GMT
#168
Yeah it's been fixed for a few patches now.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
September 12 2015 14:32 GMT
#169
I'm climbing through gold using exclusively Shyvana (top or jungle), (when I don't get Shyvana I go Vlad/Kennen/Jayce) and I'm still not sure if it's me or the champions doing all the work...lol
xd
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
September 12 2015 15:03 GMT
#170
Shyv is great for that because she's so easy. Just get big, don't lose, then chase/eat people. You've even got a billion item choices now. Can't go wrong.
XDG Mata
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 15:10:57
September 12 2015 15:10 GMT
#171
Yeah, that's basically my mindset in the jungle. I usually don't gank without red, but I like counterjungling a lot as well. How early do you think Dragon should be started? For me, whenever I get devourer, I try to kill the enemy jungler/send them back to base and rush dragon. Do you think that time would be better spent ganking/farming? And how do you feel about Titanic Hydra and Steraks Gage? (Haven't tried either of those on Shyvana yet). What item do I get if they have heavy AP? I feel Spirit VIsage is wasted on Shyvana
xd
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 16:21:57
September 12 2015 16:21 GMT
#172
If it's up, I'll try to get dragon immediately after finishing Devourer. Should basically be your focus every time. 5 stacks is worth more than farming, usually. Gank bot if possible into rushing drag.

Titanic feels really good, but I'm undecided. Seems to incentivize skipping BotRK and being a big tank quickly. You'll still do a lot of damage, but no ohko ult into Q-E they're dead potential without BotRK. But then maybe you'd just go Cinderhulk instead. Which I think is still a legit option for bad games where you have to be a tank. I don't think I'd ever go both BotRK and Titanic. It's really squishy. I think I'd probably just get Cleaver if I were getting a second damage item.

Sterak's is pretty underwhelming when I've tried it. You're not getting a ton out of the base AD. The shield is nice for a last item though, especially if you're really dependent on diving.

For AP, I get an early Maw, usually. At least a Hexdrinker. Very efficient. If it's a lot of AP, Wit's End is actually legit and is a lot of mixed damage, but Visage is better. CDR is decent, BotRK healing is underrated. If it's poke, Warmog's/SV is insane.
XDG Mata
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 12 2015 17:36 GMT
#173
Do people like titanic? Seems like a weird item to me that fills a niche that sunfire and (r)hydra fill better depending on your role
Carrilord has arrived.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 12 2015 17:37 GMT
#174
Don't really see anoyne except reksai build it. Even on her only sometimes. Think it is underrated but there just aren't any people who build it and I don't play champs that would to try it out.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 12 2015 18:03 GMT
#175
I use it on sated xin, seems good but I haven't tested other builds nor run the numbers.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
September 12 2015 18:09 GMT
#176
On September 13 2015 02:36 Slusher wrote:
Do people like titanic? Seems like a weird item to me that fills a niche that sunfire and (r)hydra fill better depending on your role

I think it's really nice for bruiser junglers like Jarvan, but tends to be a later item. Tiamat is way too expensive in the jungle early unless you're snowballing imo.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 12 2015 18:29 GMT
#177
I have a hard time figuring out who I would want that on. I'm guessing someone that likes going tanky but wants a single damage item? Haven't seen it personally
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 12 2015 18:47 GMT
#178
On September 13 2015 00:10 Skitter wrote:
Yeah, that's basically my mindset in the jungle. I usually don't gank without red, but I like counterjungling a lot as well. How early do you think Dragon should be started? For me, whenever I get devourer, I try to kill the enemy jungler/send them back to base and rush dragon. Do you think that time would be better spent ganking/farming? And how do you feel about Titanic Hydra and Steraks Gage? (Haven't tried either of those on Shyvana yet). What item do I get if they have heavy AP? I feel Spirit VIsage is wasted on Shyvana

i only get visage if they have double fed APs
otherwise maw


JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
September 12 2015 19:09 GMT
#179
Locket or Maw. Locket still a great item.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 19:18:14
September 12 2015 19:17 GMT
#180
On September 13 2015 03:47 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 00:10 Skitter wrote:
Yeah, that's basically my mindset in the jungle. I usually don't gank without red, but I like counterjungling a lot as well. How early do you think Dragon should be started? For me, whenever I get devourer, I try to kill the enemy jungler/send them back to base and rush dragon. Do you think that time would be better spent ganking/farming? And how do you feel about Titanic Hydra and Steraks Gage? (Haven't tried either of those on Shyvana yet). What item do I get if they have heavy AP? I feel Spirit VIsage is wasted on Shyvana

i only get visage if they have double fed APs
otherwise maw




why does that make sense wtf
visage gives hp and a very slight sustain so its better against comps without 2xAPs since the hp helps against everything and having a hp+mr item is the best way to make bursting you down with their mid laner infeasible
maw isn't that amazing on shyv anyway but spirit+maw would be good vs lots of ap .
locket is good yea but it sucks you if you're going to forget to use the active
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