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GolemMadness
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IntoTheWow
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What do you usually do? Thanks! | ||
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GolemMadness
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On February 06 2015 22:18 IntoTheWow wrote: GMadness, would you mind giving me a item shop order? Such as you did with sightstone. I imagine after sstone, forbidden idol is priority since it gives capability to spam and cdr. At the same time haunting lets you survive a little more and gives raw damage. What do you usually do? Thanks! Not entirely sure what you mean; the item order after sightstone is in there. As for the components, generally you want the most expensive one you can afford, so fiendish codex is prioritised over forbidden idol for morello, and amp tome over ruby crystal for haunting guise. | ||
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killerdog
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He face tanked my lvl 1 q's to zone me, then we were shoved in from lvl 2, couldn't get within q range without him w-rushing us. Basically I tried to get bush control, but he just ate two q's in a row as he ran at me, which did almost nothing to him. I was forced back enough that i couldn't hide behind minions so grab pressure had me off lane, and they got the shove on us. Then lvl 2 we were completely cut off the wave, and from then on he just sat in the bush and stepped back slightly if I ever tried to q, and if i ever moved forward to try and get angles, he just w rushed me. Also dodging hooks early without boots felt impossible, vel'koz is just so fat and slow that he just aims straight at me, and it felt impossible to sidestep. it felt like i could almost just stand and fight when hooked, but kept barely losing :S | ||
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killerdog
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On February 15 2015 10:52 GolemMadness wrote: Who were the ADC's and do you have the replay? In general the way the match up will work against Blitzcrank will be you'll stand behind your minions to avoid getting hooked. Once your minions start to thin out, Blitz will often start to move up on you, so you'll have to back up. Once your new minion line arrives, you can move up again, and there's not much Blitz can do since you always have the protection of your minions. It's also a bit difficult for him to just run up on you since you have a slow + knock up. It was me graves, them kalista I think. Don't have the replay but me and graves definitely didn't co-ordinate properly level 1, and I can see how I could have played that much safer. But I just found it really really hard to get into positions where I could threaten to q, without being in q range of blitz. Most matchups I can posture really aggressively, get into the enemies brush or zone them back, but here every time I started gaining pressure, the minions would thin out and I'd have to fall really far back again, then once we started needing to ward river instead of lane bush any hope of pushing forward was made impossible since he got free bush control every time the wave thinned, and it was almost impossible to get back without missing multiple q's. (And every missed q he could immediately w and run at me, forcing me even further back, making my adc basically unable to farm.) I'll record it next time i play the matchup, but it just felt really hard to have any presence, sure I could kite blitz to infinity, but that comes at the cost of completely abandoning my adc, and blitz just turns on him instead | ||
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