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[Guide] Montegomery's Super Serious Guide to ARAMs - Page 16

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dogmatix
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia339 Posts
June 09 2013 10:55 GMT
#301
so i'd never played galio before ARAMs and now i've played him twice and ... he seems really really good

granted it's probably much easier to get good ults off in arams but still ... wow.
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 18:38:24
June 09 2013 18:38 GMT
#302
Win 4 ARAMs, then lose 1 with Janna???
Oh well.

I'm starting to wonder if 9/21/0 with all left side of Defense except slow reduction is the way to go. Lets you hang around for a long time since max health doesn't matter if you can't heal up to it. I can usually hang around long enough that I can get an Execute in.

Thoughts?
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
June 09 2013 19:29 GMT
#303
How do you guys build adcs on aram

The way ive been going about it is, unless our level 1 is retardedly good, telling team "don't even bother face checking im waiting out some gold" and walk into lane with 3 dorans. if our level 1 is just free first blood for whatever reason then i go two dorans and a longsword

then from there i'm generally going 4-5 dorans and some BF sword item or botrk (on vayne), then start selling the dorans off 1 at a time for boots and attack speed and what have you. the reason ive been doing this is unlike normal league where you can buy when you want a lot of the time in lategame you have 300-500 gold you cant even spend and your passive gold income is so high that the gold lost from selling dorans back really isnt a big deal. and a lot of the time the game is simply settled within the first 10 minutes or so with little to no chance of a throw, so I was wondering if this is a good strategy or if i should just rush a BF sword or zerks/vamp like you would on summoners rift
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
June 09 2013 22:13 GMT
#304
Run lifesteal quints and pick up a bruta and rush BT.
Useless wet fish.
commandchild
Profile Joined May 2013
38 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 11:14:15
June 10 2013 11:11 GMT
#305
On June 10 2013 07:13 Capped wrote:
Run lifesteal quints and pick up a bruta and rush BT.


Sanguine Blade? There is no BT on ARAM

Edit: I like to grab Grez's Spectral Lantern on ADCs that arent mana-intensive (Graves/Vayne) and a tear on the ones that are spammy (Ashe/Ez). Grez's has AD and armor, lifesteal, and active for bush control, and lets you start with a few potions. I usually don't upgrade it though because Lightbringer is underwhelming for ADCs. I only grab it if behind and struggling.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 10 2013 14:07 GMT
#306
On June 10 2013 04:29 Zanno wrote:
The way ive been going about it is, unless our level 1 is retardedly good, telling team "don't even bother face checking im waiting out some gold" and walk into lane with 3 dorans. if our level 1 is just free first blood for whatever reason then i go two dorans and a longsword

Don't ever wait for gold at start. Getting control of the bush on your side is paramount; it is basically an objective and should be considered as thus, if your opponents for some reason have someone waiting for gold you should abuse this as hard as possible and take control of both bushes.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 11 2013 02:29 GMT
#307
Requesting that Ashe be moved to God-tier. Perma slows from W too strong, and now that SotEL is available it's just stupid.
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commandchild
Profile Joined May 2013
38 Posts
June 11 2013 03:31 GMT
#308
On June 11 2013 11:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
now that SotEL is available it's just stupid.


Wait, what? The jungle items are in ARAMs now?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 07:03:51
June 11 2013 07:02 GMT
#309
As of 3.8 the Spirit items will be, yes.

I'm not moving Ashe up yet because I'm a little skeptical that SotEL does much to change her potency. I'll have to see that, and her upgraded passive, in action.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6173 Posts
June 13 2013 00:07 GMT
#310
Just played Fidd with an amumu in my team....

Holy Shit !!!

amumu ult + fidd ult = insta ace haha :D
n_n
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 04:57:21
June 13 2013 04:53 GMT
#311
Compare Ashe's W to Khazix's evolved W:
-Both slow and do damage in roughly a cone (Ashe's is bigger I think)
-Ashe has lower base damage, a slightly higher AD ratio and much lower cooldown (4 at max level).
-Khazix has higher base damage, a slightly lower AD ratio and a flat 8 second cooldown and heals.

Also, Ashe stacks Tear essentially just as well as Khazix by leaving her Q on all the time. Obviously its not super legit to compare two skills on two champs with very different movesets, attributes blah blah blah, but here it is. ;P
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 13 2013 05:46 GMT
#312
On June 13 2013 13:53 ticklishmusic wrote:
Compare Ashe's W to Khazix's evolved W:
-Both slow and do damage in roughly a cone (Ashe's is bigger I think)
-Ashe has lower base damage, a slightly higher AD ratio and much lower cooldown (4 at max level).
-Khazix has higher base damage, a slightly lower AD ratio and a flat 8 second cooldown and heals.

Also, Ashe stacks Tear essentially just as well as Khazix by leaving her Q on all the time. Obviously its not super legit to compare two skills on two champs with very different movesets, attributes blah blah blah, but here it is. ;P

Pretty sure both Kha and Ashe have the same AD ratios on their W.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
June 13 2013 09:34 GMT
#313
Just noticed that Elise and Syndra have only ~40% winrate, wtf ?
Jizla
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland235 Posts
June 13 2013 12:59 GMT
#314
Not sure if anyone else has seen this but was playin ARAM as Ashe, other team had a Sej on it. got a quest when I think we were both level 18 just saying to kill the other one. Managed to kill Sej and became queen of Freljord lol, had a little crown and everything hehe.
Vanished.... Like a wrinkly ninja.....
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 13 2013 13:02 GMT
#315
On June 13 2013 21:59 jimthelege wrote:
Not sure if anyone else has seen this but was playin ARAM as Ashe, other team had a Sej on it. got a quest when I think we were both level 18 just saying to kill the other one. Managed to kill Sej and became queen of Freljord lol, had a little crown and everything hehe.


I believe it's when you both hit 16, but I could be wrong. It happens in SR as well. Cute stuff.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Jizla
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland235 Posts
June 13 2013 13:07 GMT
#316
On June 13 2013 22:02 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 21:59 jimthelege wrote:
Not sure if anyone else has seen this but was playin ARAM as Ashe, other team had a Sej on it. got a quest when I think we were both level 18 just saying to kill the other one. Managed to kill Sej and became queen of Freljord lol, had a little crown and everything hehe.


I believe it's when you both hit 16, but I could be wrong. It happens in SR as well. Cute stuff.

It's been so long since I've played on SR I've gone from Silver 2 down to Silver 5, damn ARAM Q lol. Really should get back into it
Vanished.... Like a wrinkly ninja.....
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 13 2013 13:14 GMT
#317
On June 13 2013 14:46 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 13:53 ticklishmusic wrote:
Compare Ashe's W to Khazix's evolved W:
-Both slow and do damage in roughly a cone (Ashe's is bigger I think)
-Ashe has lower base damage, a slightly higher AD ratio and much lower cooldown (4 at max level).
-Khazix has higher base damage, a slightly lower AD ratio and a flat 8 second cooldown and heals.

Also, Ashe stacks Tear essentially just as well as Khazix by leaving her Q on all the time. Obviously its not super legit to compare two skills on two champs with very different movesets, attributes blah blah blah, but here it is. ;P

Pretty sure both Kha and Ashe have the same AD ratios on their W.


Kha6 is 0.9, Ashe is 1.0. ONly reason I know Kha6's is because I hate his guts.

On June 13 2013 22:07 jimthelege wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 22:02 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On June 13 2013 21:59 jimthelege wrote:
Not sure if anyone else has seen this but was playin ARAM as Ashe, other team had a Sej on it. got a quest when I think we were both level 18 just saying to kill the other one. Managed to kill Sej and became queen of Freljord lol, had a little crown and everything hehe.


I believe it's when you both hit 16, but I could be wrong. It happens in SR as well. Cute stuff.

It's been so long since I've played on SR I've gone from Silver 2 down to Silver 5, damn ARAM Q lol. Really should get back into it


Yeah, you kill the other you become queen/king/whatever of the Freljord.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 17:16:58
June 13 2013 15:57 GMT
#318
On June 13 2013 18:34 Lylat wrote:
Just noticed that Elise and Syndra have only ~40% winrate, wtf ?


It's not super surprising. She excels in small skirmishes or securing objectives, and a constant 5v5 where the enemy team has most of their income guaranteed and the only objectives to go for are towers, an inhib, and a nexus doesn't exactly play in her favor.

It's difficult to commit to spider form when three's always 5 enemies there, because if she eats cc she's super squishy without items. The later the game drags out, the more enemy team having the bulk of their gold guaranteed comes into play. If it were summoner's rift, the early advantage she builds would matter a lot more.

It's not insurmountable, but you have to be really good with her.

Edit: Whoa, I have a scout icon now. :>
commandchild
Profile Joined May 2013
38 Posts
June 13 2013 16:31 GMT
#319
So I feel like the spirit stone items are really strong in arams now. Started Horn pots on Sejuani, then rushed Elder Lizard. The regen from horn and SS was very nice. Finished Elder Lizard and grabbed Sunfire, Wits End (which I feel is also strong now on Sej/Amumu or anyone else that grabs Sunfire), Abyssal, and Tabis. The MR shred from Wits and the MPen from Abyssal dovetailed nicely with the Aoe damage from Sej and Sunfire coupled with the SotEL burn. Triple kill tower dives urrrday.
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
June 14 2013 18:23 GMT
#320
On June 09 2013 19:55 dogmatix wrote:
so i'd never played galio before ARAMs and now i've played him twice and ... he seems really really good

granted it's probably much easier to get good ults off in arams but still ... wow.


His biggest weakness is flash dependency to make plays. The enemy team can tell pretty well when you're going to try and make a play by you trying to run into them with your E otherwise. Also, getting unlucky and rolling into a heavy AD team sucks, but overall teams seem to be more AP oriented than AD in ARAM's. Finally, he takes some time to become more effective since his ult has such a long cooldown, especially at lower ranks. He really needs CDR.

Besides that though, he's amazing. Great poke, great sustain, game-changing ult, good utility, and a lot of damage. It's hard not to do well in ARAM as Galio.
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