EPT[Champion] Nami - Page 2
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
It just makes your Q so much easier to reliably land, too. Besides, it's getting a duration buff next patch (5->8 sec) | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 12 2013 01:06 Sponkz wrote: No it isn't. If you're snowballing it's actually efficient to buy gp10 and then build into your aegis/locket/shard of true ice. Why would you want so much mp5 anyways? Not really. GP10 items are the least efficient when it comes to its bonuses. You get GP10 items when you are ahead because you can afford to, not because you want to snowball. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 14 2013 22:23 sylverfyre wrote: I started doing a lot better as Nami when I started maxing E second instead of Q, to be honest. The slow on autoattack is no joke. Use it on yourself in lane to harass, use it on anyone else when there's a serious fight going on. It just makes your Q so much easier to reliably land, too. Besides, it's getting a duration buff next patch (5->8 sec) Reduced to 6 on PBE. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
If you run the numbers on it, it's nothing special, really (255 damage and 3 second 35% slow predicated on landing 3 autos), and it's clearly inferior to something like Janna's Zephyr. I can't help but feel this spell is oddly "weak" for a support spell when you're used to stuff like bloodboil, astral blessing or eye of the storm. It doesn't mean you shouldn't max it second or even first, though. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
If I am in a lane I can max E in the lane is so easy to win, or if you get an advantage and leave W at 2 then max E. The bonus damage and slow % is awesome and guarentees you will land your Q. E is also her best skill in team fights for letting your ADC kite, the R slow will likely not last very long at close range. The E slow combined with the passive speed boost is so strong. Of course if you can land an RQ combo on a lot of people thats awesome but if not she is still great at peeling. Also I have been doing the mp5 3 ward 3 pot start into philo -> sigh stone -> Shurelias I find shurelias to be more impactful on her than a lot of other supports combined with her R so I agree with the op there. I then get ruby sightstone, kages and start stacking pink wards. Over time I like to build up Twin Shadows. I really like it on Nami. The long range slow can catch people out. Normally you can't land R over a range but Twin really allows you more options. It's a great late game pickup for her. At some point I also build Lucidity boots on her and thats pretty much my final build | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Cheap0
United States540 Posts
E's more useful for snowballing a lane, I'll agree to that, but overall, I just think W is much better to put levels in earlier on. The amount of impact it can have in a single cast is pretty significant in terms of amount healed and damage dealt. Putting points in Tidecaller's means that when you use it, you need to be able to get the auto's off to make it effective, and in exchange, you still get less damage (and no heal) than if you'd just used a W. You also lose out on the sustain, and take a greater risk. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On March 15 2013 04:01 Slusher wrote: if you don't like Nami E I don't know why you picked this champion. When I first picked Nami maxed E. Figured people were just doing it wrong putting it on ADC and instead I just used it on myself to trade etc. Had a sucky time most of the lanes because my heal wasn't enough and the other team just stunned and wombo'd combo because slow doesn't do much if they're committed to trading with you anyway. Characters like Leona or Taric just outright laughed at you. Switched to maxing W then Q skipping E entirely. Won lane ever since even if my adc sucked because the damage during trades swings so heavily in your favor. Her Q and W are quite good and on very manageable cooldown. Her ult's also pretty useful as a follow up and zone control. Like I said, try RWQE skipping E for last till the skill gets a buff. At the moment a 5 second duration is crap. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 15 2013 04:56 Cheap0 wrote: I used to max E. Then I switched to leveling W and I started doing a lot better. E's more useful for snowballing a lane, I'll agree to that, but overall, I just think W is much better to put levels in earlier on. The amount of impact it can have in a single cast is pretty significant in terms of amount healed and damage dealt. Putting points in Tidecaller's means that when you use it, you need to be able to get the auto's off to make it effective, and in exchange, you still get less damage (and no heal) than if you'd just used a W. You also lose out on the sustain, and take a greater risk. That's what I feel as well. E's slow is great, but without any other sources of damage, a slow is just a slow - fairly useless. E does not provide an OP amount of damage by itself and requires 3 autos. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
ebb and flow is actually better in the fight, but you can't initiate, you can only react. it's also easier to hit bubbles when they engage on you, whereas if you want to engage on them you generally need either someone else's CC, or tidecaller's blessing. it's definitely situational over what to level first, some lanes you can afford to be aggressive, other lanes you have to be passive. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
Like when I'm sitting in select and I look at the other team, if my goal is to do the whole W and Q thing and not get any milage out of E, I don't see why I wouldn't just pick Sona every time. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On March 15 2013 09:50 Slusher wrote: I'm not trying to find ways to use Nami, so much as trying to find reasons to pick nami, if you just want poke that comes with heals she isn't better than Sona. And for the record I do agree that if your AD isn't halping with the harassment that you should opt to go with W, it's in the OP, I'm trying to state that your goal should be to stop at 2 points if the lane allows for it. Like when I'm sitting in select and I look at the other team, if my goal is to do the whole W and Q thing and not get any milage out of E, I don't see why I wouldn't just pick Sona every time. Because Q is an AoE stun and your ult is completely different purpose than Sona. You also have answers to all in's a lot better than sona pre 6. Your spells do a LOT of damage once they're max ranked. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On March 14 2013 23:24 Sufficiency wrote: Not really. GP10 items are the least efficient when it comes to its bonuses. You get GP10 items when you are ahead because you can afford to, not because you want to snowball. The bonus gold is what make gp10 worth it. Imagine a scenario, where you and your ad manages to kill both enemy laners really early (lvl 3-4), you get an xp advantage, you build your first gp10, congrats now you're ahead in experience and you generate more gold than the enemy support who most likely got stuck up buying 1 piece of his gp10 or nothing. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
She feels in an ok place, with strong trading power, and her teamfight utility is pretty great. I've been trying to play her whenever I have to support, and part of me hopes someone will try her out at Dallas.. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 15 2013 17:15 Sponkz wrote: The bonus gold is what make gp10 worth it. Imagine a scenario, where you and your ad manages to kill both enemy laners really early (lvl 3-4), you get an xp advantage, you build your first gp10, congrats now you're ahead in experience and you generate more gold than the enemy support who most likely got stuck up buying 1 piece of his gp10 or nothing. Sure, but you are not snowballing with GP10s. When you buy a GP10, you are investing gold into long-term income, that's definitely not snowballing. To try to snowball you should be trying to build up items with real stats as quickly as possible. | ||
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Cheap0
United States540 Posts
On March 16 2013 01:22 Mondeezy wrote: I've almost always maxed W first, the only exception being a lane like Cait that harasses all day. She feels in an ok place, with strong trading power, and her teamfight utility is pretty great. I've been trying to play her whenever I have to support, and part of me hopes someone will try her out at Dallas.. I'm kind of hoping the pros don't play her...yet. It's nice playing a champion that receives repeated micro-buffs every patch  | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 16 2013 05:46 Juicyfruit wrote: Incidentally, gp10 is just so much less important now that sightstone exists. Frankly I consider sightstone to be a "GP10". | ||
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