EPT[Champion] Riven - Page 6
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Slayer91
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swim224
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Gahlo
United States35131 Posts
On March 16 2013 08:26 swim224 wrote: Can anyone explain to me how to play vs singed? It's my hardest matchup atm. Stun out ranges fling if he ever tries to run at you, shield is strong against poison. Obviously, an early Hexdrinker helps too. Early aggression can cause you to deny him pretty well. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35131 Posts
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Gahlo
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Bladeorade
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Gahlo
United States35131 Posts
On April 07 2013 00:38 Bladeorade wrote: Hmm why not do that with red pot and just use red pot on golems and brush camp while 2 minions die then come out swinging. Would clear golems faster and give you a stronger level 2 all in Lifted it from a lolking guide that only suggests boots3, cloth5, and LS2 as starts iirc. So... not the best quality. He's also wrong about minion count. It's 3, but he gets into xp range the the lane kills one. | ||
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Bladeorade
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Gahlo
United States35131 Posts
On April 07 2013 05:31 Bladeorade wrote: I think I may try it with red pot start, you could also run AD reds quints and armor yellows blues depending on your top matchup to take a little less damage... min max that ish and cheese people top lane hue Last I checked, minmaxed jungle damage on non-buff was 6ArPen 3 AD marks. I would seriously suggest practicing it for a while, screwing up and losing your stacks before the spawn kills your attempt. Most likely you, aswell, if you try and go through with it anyway. | ||
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Bladeorade
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Gahlo
United States35131 Posts
On April 07 2013 05:59 Bladeorade wrote: All AD is best on riven, everything on her scales with it and then scales with it twice when you use ulti. I did some math a while ago on ArPen marks when they changed her passive. The only real benefit she gets from AD marks is ~10 more shield strength. ArPen provides more damage. It's somewhere in the thread. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On April 07 2013 06:05 Gahlo wrote: I did some math a while ago on ArPen marks when they changed her passive. The only real benefit she gets from AD marks is ~10 more shield strength. ArPen provides more damage. It's somewhere in the thread. So Q damage, W damage, R damage and R % scaling doesnt count? Or do you mean that the ARP is even in damage with AD marks on QW and R damage? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35131 Posts
On April 07 2013 06:50 Bladeorade wrote: So Q damage, W damage, R damage and R % scaling doesnt count? Or do you mean that the ARP is even in damage with AD marks on QW and R damage? It counts, but the ArPen makes up for it and then some. It was always the passive that held the ArPen marks back. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Gahlo
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On May 24 2013 04:46 FinestHour wrote: so i got crushed in lane against darius, anyone have any suggestions how to lane against him? Don't fight him 1v1. You only win in short engagements and you can't make those happen unless Apprehend is down. Try to Valor Decimate and focus on farming. He is very susceptible to ganks to try and get your jungler to help you. In soloqueue you can take advantage of peoples PTSD of fed Darius by framing it as "If we gank him a lot we can shut him down" instead of "I need jungle help." | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
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Capricious_LoL
United States222 Posts
On May 24 2013 04:46 FinestHour wrote: so i got crushed in lane against darius, anyone have any suggestions how to lane against him? Don't go top. Mid Riven is much better. Run away from the big bad scary bruisers. | ||
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
On May 24 2013 04:46 FinestHour wrote: so i got crushed in lane against darius, anyone have any suggestions how to lane against him? Cheese him at level 2 with a big red pot ...........pre patch 3.08 this meant getting wolves/wraiths, rushing to lane and semi push it so you get to level2 before he does. The moment you have 1 creep left before level2, and that creep is dying in 2 seconds, pop the red pot buff and charge in with your Q A Q A combo while igniting him, ctrl W to skill your stun asap, pop him if he tries to run. If successful you should be able to flat out kill him. Proceed to snowball as riven as you will hit level 3 before he hits level2, level 6 before he hits level 4 etc etc... Post patch 3.08 this strategy is probably more stable since wolves start no longer is better than wraith start (no early jungle rush allowed with the 1:55 flat on all), just semi push early and have creep advantage over him. Be careful attempting this since Darius can cheese too. Check if he has big red pot or not. Otherwise just get your jungler to camp him, gain level + gold advantage then just snowball the lane. This means starting out with two reju beads and sustains/wards. If you absolutely want, go with barrier+ignite combo. Flash is great if you can beat your lane and need more mobility, while barrier on riven is great for counter picks (hard trades). Ignite is a must with the passive +5 tho Remember, his Q does less damage if you stand right next to him. If his Q missed you (managed to trick him out), punish him with your combo immediately and save one or two dashes for disengage. On May 27 2013 15:12 Capricious_LoL wrote: Don't go top. Mid Riven is much better. Run away from the big bad scary bruisers. Been playing with mid Riven too...havent had this much fun for quite a while...The amount of pressure you can put on the squishy mids once you hit level2 and level 3 is ridiculous. I cannot for the life of me jump those damn walls as riven. How exactly do you jump those? Be at the edge while also facing the right direction, right click over the wall just as you press Q or something? Actually having problems with pro monkey king players....he hits fuuuuucking hard, has dash has crazy knock up and can be invisible....complete nightmare to deal with...then again it was a chinese diamond I and I was level 25 Feels like OP needs a small update on the black cleaver - its just not that good :/. Brutalizer is amazing 100% positive and a must buy first item, but after bloodthirsters there are just better items rather than upgrading the brutalizer to black cleaver (hexdrinker, last whisper, GA, another bloodthirster, hydra, boots...)...and that policy remains the same until you have 6 items already and the brutalizer is facing the fate of being sold rather than upgraded. Or maybe I need to buy one and see for myself :/ I realize AD skills also set off the black cleaver passive stacks | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
Bruta is good, BC is decent, but yeah I think that the only items you can really consider "core" on Riven is BT+LW. In some match ups you can honestly go vamp straight into LW instead of getting early bruta imo. Every item other than BT+LW is situational as far as I'm concerned. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35131 Posts
On June 21 2013 03:47 overt wrote: Youtube playlist for Riven wall jumps. Just go into SR by yourself and practice them. Bruta is good, BC is decent, but yeah I think that the only items you can really consider "core" on Riven is BT+LW. In some match ups you can honestly go vamp straight into LW instead of getting early bruta imo. Every item other than BT+LW is situational as far as I'm concerned. Wall jumps are so finicky I don't even bother to learn them because I know I'll always botch them. Yeah, the OP could use an update. It hasn't been touched since last year but the thread moves so slow. | ||
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