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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 15:10:08
December 28 2012 14:38 GMT
#121
I wrote 2 match-ups for janna which can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=361846&currentpage=2#36


I can also do some in-depths for nunu:


Nunu in general

Playing support nunu requires a somewhat different sort of playstyle. You don't have any hard CC, you only got consume for self-sustain and his ult is a channel. In lane you should try and bully as much as possible, really bully them so much they end up hating you. It sounds like a completely stupid joke, but it's the #1 thing that distinguish a good nunu from a bad nunu. In team fights, the basic general principles are:

1. Always BB your ADC, and always use your Ice Blast to give additional peeling
2. Block all the skill-shots you can.
3. Wait with your ultimate until you see an opening gap.

Number 1 is simple, number 2 takes practice but number 3 is hard. Using Nunu's Ultimate is incredibly hard, especially with the amount of disruption. A patient Nunu is a successful Nunu.


Nunu/Corki

Generally when you play nunu, you want to max Blood Boil asap, but after playing the match up more than a few times, i've found that a route of EWEWE, R > W > E > Q works alot better, since corki's burst from his Q is rather high and he doesn't benefit that much from the early Attack speed compared to Ashe, Caitlyn,Vayne and Miss Fortune.


At the beginning of the laning phase, you should try and play abit passive. Nunu's lvl 1 and 2 aren't among the best, but once you get a second rank in Ice Blast, you can try and trade hits. If someone miss-steps, Ice blast them, Blood Boil you and your AD and start auto'ing forcing them backwards. A common thing i've noticed is how passive nunu is played in lane. You have some of the best base stats for a tank in the game, abuse it. If you can force the enemy bot lane, to hit you and not your ADC, then bravo you did your job. It seems rather easy, but it's a hard thing to master properly especially blocking skill-shots in lane is a thing that comes with practice.


Hope this helps abit. The same logic for Nunu/Corki can be applied to any other lane, but you should be maxing W first in those.

Hope it helps!
hi
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 15:10:27
December 28 2012 15:07 GMT
#122
Actually you can't go EWEEW because you have to wait level 5 to get the third rank of an ability, so it'd go more along the lines of EWEWE -> R>W>E>Q.
A thing that gives me a bit of trouble when playing Nunu is when to take a point in Q. It's useful for a bit of sustain and pushing/nagging a last hit here and there, but most of all it can help a lot in tackling the dragon, especially early on when the 400 (potentially 800?) true damage is a higher portion of its HP. Some games are so passive I don't even level it at 8, but past some point it's hard to level it "reactively" as you take a really long while to level up.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 16:32:53
December 28 2012 15:09 GMT
#123
Ah right, my bad

If you feel like, your team can pressure dragon early on, it's not bad to take a point in Q at level 4, but usually i wait and get it at lvl 8 or 10.
hi
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 03 2013 19:56 GMT
#124
So what boot upgrades are supports getting?
It's your boy Guzma!
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 03 2013 20:01 GMT
#125
On January 04 2013 04:56 Requizen wrote:
So what boot upgrades are supports getting?


I don't normally get boots upgrades, but in the few cases that I do it is usually captain boots.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 03 2013 20:23 GMT
#126
On January 04 2013 05:01 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 04:56 Requizen wrote:
So what boot upgrades are supports getting?


I don't normally get boots upgrades, but in the few cases that I do it is usually captain boots.

Now, I can see them on tank supports like Ali/Leona/Taric, but I don't think Soraka/Janna type supports. Is it just that you find items too important or that you just don't like any of them?
It's your boy Guzma!
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 03 2013 20:39 GMT
#127
I think boots upgrade is spending your gold the wrong way. Homeguard is pretty good, but captain is just so expensive.
hi
divinesage
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore649 Posts
January 03 2013 20:50 GMT
#128
Been trying to figure out when and where to pink ward as a support. Still not exactly clear though. I've been watching my friend (top 100 in Garena SG/MY, which I think would translate to possibly 2.4k+ elo on NA) play support and he seems to be able to pink ward to deny enemy vision accurately almost all the time, but I have never been able to figure out why he places the ward at that place and position at the correct time.

Any tips on pink warding?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 03 2013 21:37 GMT
#129
Anytime the enemy support leaves, even to back, try to get an estimate of "he should be here by now", look at where he comes back from, and with experience you can guestimate where he put a ward (your tribrush when you're blue? His? River bush? Drake?). I tend to ping it and indicate the duration in the chat, but it's kinda hard to keep track for the jungler.

Most of my pinks in the tribrushes/river area are placed well to deward the area though. It's a bit more about managing your gold when you try to complete a key item (early locket for example) and the enemy has a sighststone. You can always bait him while he tries to ward and get a kill tho.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
divinesage
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore649 Posts
January 04 2013 19:25 GMT
#130
On January 04 2013 06:37 Alaric wrote:
Anytime the enemy support leaves, even to back, try to get an estimate of "he should be here by now", look at where he comes back from, and with experience you can guestimate where he put a ward (your tribrush when you're blue? His? River bush? Drake?). I tend to ping it and indicate the duration in the chat, but it's kinda hard to keep track for the jungler.

Most of my pinks in the tribrushes/river area are placed well to deward the area though. It's a bit more about managing your gold when you try to complete a key item (early locket for example) and the enemy has a sighststone. You can always bait him while he tries to ward and get a kill tho.


I'm pretty fine with that, though thanks for the tip on guessing where he is though. It's after laning phase dissolves that I usually have problems identifying where they place their wards. Sure, they probably placed it at some objective or choke but I always seem to plant pinks when their wards aren't even at places I guess they would be.
spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
January 13 2013 08:53 GMT
#131
hey i made a new powerpoint, was wondering if anyone wanted to proofread it a bit while its in final stages or so, and i really like TL for this type stuff as they are .. hardcore, as is this ppt >_< .. its, comprehensive.

ok, so, pm me if you want
spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
January 14 2013 23:54 GMT
#132
OK im on final draft of my comprehensive support ppt, anyone want to proofread / feedback ? reply or msg me your email!!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 15 2013 00:04 GMT
#133
I gladly will be an editor for your powerpoint (particularly on the style/presentation - I'm sure you know better than I do on the actual content)

Sending you a PM.
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