[Champion] Jayce - Page 3

On August 19 2012 17:34 Sufficiency wrote:
I feel like bumping this.

For some reason I didn't get solo mid and had to play the top lane instead, so I felt like giving Jayce another go. The new Jayce is very smooth now. His melee attack is very fast, and the "bug" with the first attack upon R is fixed. His gameplay is so fast and fluid now.... playing him was extremely fun.

On August 19 2012 18:01 Shiv. wrote:

He's also retardedly safe thanks to his E in both forms, has few bad matchups because he can always refrain from being aggressive and just straight up farm in ranged form and R->E if he gets engaged on. His teamfighting seems insanely strong given your jungler is able to initiate. I'd say he'll become fotm pretty soon.

On August 19 2012 19:03 Shiv. wrote:
Nothing personal, Sufficiency, but I still think pulling numbers like overall winrate is stupid. It says nothing about how well a single champ performs, only how often he's been picked into better teams. It's rarely a single person that wins games, even in soloQ. Maybe I'm just mad, but I don't think it adds any value to the discussion.

About your second paragraph, he doesn't really have to commit to any trades because he's so mobile, and if they decide to come up to me, Hammer-Q-E and running away generally let's me come out ahead. Admittedly, I haven't played much against ranged champions besides Vlad, who I always happened to truck easily, so I might very well be in the wrong here. His sustain is an issue, but since I prefer an early BT, it works out just fine after getting Vamp. He's much like Kayle and to a lesser extent Nidalee in this regard imo.

Soaz just received a couple of targetted Jayce bans at the EU regionals, so I think he might become more popular. I don't know and I don't care, I'm having a blast playing him

When you autoattack again the skill refreshes again and goes to 8 seconds. Theoretically you could have ghostblade's active on for almost 18 seconds if you autoattacked at the right times but it'd be very difficult and wasteful to do.

The item seems like it would have good synergy with jayce. In ranged form jayce has his W which increases attack speed to the max (300%) so during it, all forms of attack speed are wasted. But Ghostblade only gives conditional attack speed, and lasts longer on melee champions. This means jayce can activate it whenever he is in melee form. Once he has the stacks up he can switch to ranged. The AD and armor pen allow jayce to hit harder on some of his abilities and the crit helps to scale into late game autoattack damage. Ghostblade also has a very smooth build path.

In addition Jayce can use his W in ranged, activate ghostblade after the 3/4 shots on W, and then switch to melee form as ghostblade is about to expire to get the ghostblade stacks up, then switch back to ranged form to make use of the final 2-3+ seconds of ghostblade's active.

Oh one final note. Jayce can activate W in ranged form, transform to melee form, get 1 auto off in melee form, and then use the last two charges of attack speed buff to get the final two stacks of ghostblade's active off. There's no point to doing this, it's just something he can do.

It would seem he would prefer phage for chasing, or bilgewater for the sustain, slow, and active damage though in some matchups.


Just an addition. IE PD is vastly superior to ghostblade and any other damage item on it's own in extended fights. I can't argue against that. But Jayce needs to build somewhat tanky to make use of his hammer form abilities. Most games will have been decided before he can build tanky and IE PD. Ghostblade offers a great single damage dealing item with a build path as smooth as phantom dancer, and better early game stats.

On August 20 2012 13:12 Requizen wrote:
I can see Cho being difficult. Jayce has no sustain and relies a lot on his abilities, so a silence and that passive would be kind of rough on him.

I still dislike his jungle. It can work, I guess, but his clear is so slow, you really need to rely on ganks to get anywhere. That said, his poke and then chunk ganks are really strong, but he doesn't really have super amazing gank presence. Good in solo queue if you want a semi-carry jungle, though I'd probably go Jax over him if I was really intent on winning.

On August 20 2012 13:10 bokeevboke wrote:
I think Jayce is awesome,very strong and fun. When I play him I'm always in the heat of action and fight like a man, without any bullshit. Much like olaf. The thing about him - its not clear whether he's strong or weak, it depends on how good you are, what decisions you make. There is always room for improvement.

On August 20 2012 20:05 phyvo wrote:
Fun fact: damage from Jayce's W can crit.

Discovered this while stacking IEs.

On August 20 2012 22:52 Sufficiency wrote:


Don't you see this when you build Trinity Force?

On August 20 2012 23:47 Requizen wrote:
Do you all think that there's anything to transitioning into AD carry mode if your team has enough tankiness? Saw a game with Galio mid/Ali jungle/Jayce top, Jayce just basically eschewed any defenses and became a second AD carry for the team (BT/PD/IE), seemed to work pretty well for him.

On August 21 2012 00:39 obesechicken13 wrote:

Jayce is in my opinion a horrible ad carry since he lacks escapes. Steroid is pretty bad late game too. I'd get an IE PD on him, but I wouldn't do it with no armor and mr unless I was winning by a lot and wanted to have some fun.

On August 21 2012 04:55 Requizen wrote:
500 is more than enough for top lane, though. I was talking about going boots/2 DBlades/Phage into AD carry stuffs + maybe TF later on and spend most of your time in Cannon shooting things. I find range to be less of an issue/advantage later on (except on certain champs with massive range like Kog or Trist). His lack of an escape doesn't seem too terrible, you switch to Hammer for the Armor/MR/sprint, then knock them the fuck back and run away. Better escape than many AD carries.

On August 21 2012 05:49 Sufficiency wrote:


500 is more than enough for the top lane I agree. I thought it was about playing him as the ADC for the bottom lane.