EPT[Champion] Jayce - Page 14
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 03 2014 04:39 Djin)ftw( wrote: Anyone tried Essence Reaver on him? Feels pretty strong mid game (obviously, since its a 60 AD ad item with 10% cdr), however I dont think you should skip tear for Muramane, because then you cant be a lane bully. I dont know, getting ER instead of BT seems ok to me Muramana W procs are just too good to skip imo, the CDR/Mana restore on Reaver is good though. Since Jayce really wants AD/CDR later in the game to poke + W kill people in like 2 seconds lolol | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On July 03 2014 07:37 arb wrote: Muramana W procs are just too good to skip imo, the CDR/Mana restore on Reaver is good though. Since Jayce really wants AD/CDR later in the game to poke + W kill people in like 2 seconds lolol I think essence reaver is a 5/6slot item for jayce. Rushing it just doesn't feel good because you don't hit hard enough yet for the mana restore to really matter, and the muramana timing is just insane on jayce. I guess one possibility is replacing the brutalizer with reaver, but that just seems too slow, brut is insanely cost efficient for what you're aiming for, especially when combo'd with last whisper. It lets you hit a timing where empowered Q hits for like 1/3 of squishy hp during midgame. I suppose it also depends on how much your team needs you to carry. If you have to carry every fight, Iedge+ghostblade is probably better than reaver. If your team just needs you to poke people out of defending a lane though, reaver->defensive item(mercurial?) is better. | ||
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GreggSauce
United States566 Posts
On July 03 2014 11:17 Amui wrote: I think essence reaver is a 5/6slot item for jayce. Rushing it just doesn't feel good because you don't hit hard enough yet for the mana restore to really matter, and the muramana timing is just insane on jayce. I guess one possibility is replacing the brutalizer with reaver, but that just seems too slow, brut is insanely cost efficient for what you're aiming for, especially when combo'd with last whisper. It lets you hit a timing where empowered Q hits for like 1/3 of squishy hp during midgame. I suppose it also depends on how much your team needs you to carry. If you have to carry every fight, Iedge+ghostblade is probably better than reaver. If your team just needs you to poke people out of defending a lane though, reaver->defensive item(mercurial?) is better. the issue with essence and the current items for jayce are they want him to go into AA range, when that is not necessarily his strong suit. I really don't think he's powerful in this path at all. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Also, the recent nerfs to jungle leashing really hurt his jungle sustain. And the nerfs to hypercharge really hurt Jayce's late game. | ||
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Kotfluegel
Germany49 Posts
On January 17 2015 04:56 obesechicken13 wrote: I had a game vs a Renekton yesterday. He would dash through my creeps, then dash again to position himself behind me. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do against that. If I try to fight him I'll definitely lose since his Ult is so strong. And I can't exactly knock him back. Do I just cede cs and get it when it hits the tower? Jayce vs Renekton is a pretty tricky matchup. The best way to beat the croc is to stay even in cs and simply outscale him. I haven't played both champs this patch but around 90 Renekton and 80 Jayce games in s4. When Renekton has used both dashes to get behind you, he is pretty much all in. If he used 50 fury for his second dash you should be able to fight him. Activate W to get the bonus attackspeed and transform into hammer form. Activate W, Q on him to get the slow off and try to get behind him and knock him back. Transform back to cannon form and EQ his face. If Renekton uses his ult to fight you just walk back to the tower. He can't gapclose for the next 10 seconds. Wait until his ult has worn off and he has used his fury to heal from creeps. Then you have a 1 minute window to all in him. I recommend ignite over tp in this matchup if you don't want to farm it out. Also, the recent nerfs to jungle leashing really hurt his jungle sustain. And the nerfs to hypercharge really hurt Jayce's late game. can't say much about jungle Jayce. The nerfs on his W were unnecessary imo and I stopped playing him for now. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
* The mana sustain of essence reaver is just enough, which is exactly what you want for efficiency. * Essence reaver gives him hp regeneration which is a great luxury for a top laner that is supposed to apply pressure and splitpushing and is especially useful against any kind of poke. * The damage spikes of the ER buildup comes in strong, faster timings: When you grab your BF and when you finish the item, while the muramana buildup takes longer. * Q doesn't benefit from the muramana toggle as it does for example for ezreal, so a good part of the damage cannot be applied during alot of situations. * It is also easier to cap cdr with an essence reaver opening, which is a very strong stat on jayce. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4131 Posts
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ricecake
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Welcome back Jayce. I missed you :3 | ||
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