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On August 29 2013 05:11 mordek wrote:What are people opening and building on Leona these days? She's my go to support. I either go for an all consumables wards/pink/pots start or rejuv/wards/pots if I think I'll need to be more passive. I've been going sightstone -> boots -> ruby ss -> applicable boots (tabi/mercs) -> warden's and then either cowl if I'm worried about AP or finish Randuins. I know Randuins is expensive but in games that have gone on longer I just like getting it over any other support item on Leona. Could be bad but that's why I'm asking 
I generally consider Boots+Ruby Sightstone to be full item build and then just spam wards and oracles 
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I really like the early kindlegem if I can too, since Leona defensively scales better off of HP, and considering she's melee it makes having your E up faster pretty important in teamfights when you may have to reposition to cockblock some diver who was close to you then suddenly burns his gap closer right before you can stun him.
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Right right, I know about the spam wards and oracles after sightstone but in my games I usually by a couple greens/pinks and I'm looking at 800g in the bank. The warden's etc doesn't come up until like 40 min or so if I had to guess. It's really nice when you're initiating into the back line.
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On August 29 2013 05:45 Hyren wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 05:11 mordek wrote:What are people opening and building on Leona these days? She's my go to support. I either go for an all consumables wards/pink/pots start or rejuv/wards/pots if I think I'll need to be more passive. I've been going sightstone -> boots -> ruby ss -> applicable boots (tabi/mercs) -> warden's and then either cowl if I'm worried about AP or finish Randuins. I know Randuins is expensive but in games that have gone on longer I just like getting it over any other support item on Leona. Could be bad but that's why I'm asking I generally consider Boots+Ruby Sightstone to be full item build and then just spam wards and oracles
Yeah that's the ideal. Whatever comes next is bonus, such as warden's/aegis
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I tend to like building straight to locket after RSS/mercs/possibly a gp5 because by the time you actually finish your first big item you're going to be a high enough level the shield is pretty epic in teamfights + aoe mr. Ofc this assumes at least 1.5+ magic damage dealers and your jungler didn't build the item.
sorry, I just hate to see that people are dissing locket, I still think it's a great item
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How do you afford all that and keep up constant warding + permanent oracles?
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Some games it simply isn't possibly. The amount of fights (and the farm too, even 30 cs is a big difference in a 40 min game) usually determines how much you're gonna get to build. If you win lane and even get kills it's rather easy, especially if your team is winning overall (global gold op). Most games you aren't gonna get more than boots2/sightstone/oracles, but the lower tier, the more gold you can expect to get.
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Doran's Shield is mandatory on her post sightstone.
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Dorans+ ward +34 armor runes is a hilarious start vs the ad heavy botlanes like varus, vayne, cait etc. Bully them around at level 2, then go back once you get low and pick up a load of pots and wards and do it again.
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On August 30 2013 04:36 Gahlo wrote:
Doran's Shield is mandatory on her post sightstone.
What? If you ever were to get dolan shield (which you can, because it's freaking strong) you should get it at first back instead of ruby, because you can delay it for stronger laning presence. It makes no sense to purchase it after lane, because the flat reduction from AA's will mean less and less.
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On August 30 2013 15:15 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 04:36 Gahlo wrote:
Doran's Shield is mandatory on her post sightstone. What? If you ever were to get dolan shield (which you can, because it's freaking strong) you should get it at first back instead of ruby, because you can delay it for stronger laning presence. It makes no sense to purchase it after lane, because the flat reduction from AA's will mean less and less.
I said post sightstone, not post ruby.
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Even so, it doesn't make much sense. It's a strong item 1-6, but when the enemy adc starts building more AD, the passive from dolan shield becomes less significant.
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Also worth noting that the -8 flat damage applies BEFORE your armor, so as you come to rely more on high armor (you're leona after all) the less impact DShield has. (At 100 armor, you're only seeing 4 less damage on autos rather than 8.)
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Hmm... Does DShield apply before or after crits? Anyone know?
also, Block + DShield nice synergy there
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On August 31 2013 05:19 Tooplark wrote:
Hmm... Does DShield apply before or after crits? Anyone know?
also, Block + DShield nice synergy there
+2 from Unyielding.
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What are the standard runes on Leona right now?
More specifically quints and marks
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On October 04 2013 06:38 IamPryda wrote:
What are the standard runes on Leona right now?
More specifically quints and marks
Armor for marks, quints are GP10 or Health.
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(boots)/Ruby/FotM(lol)/Omen/(SV or IBG)/(Banshees or IBG) seems like the go to build now. That 6 seconds Randuins is nasty.
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On October 04 2013 07:02 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 06:38 IamPryda wrote:
What are the standard runes on Leona right now?
More specifically quints and marks
Armor for marks, quints are GP10 or Health.
No hybrid pen marks? Not sure if hp or hp regen are best for quints right now
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hp is terrible for quints, options include hp regen, armour and gp10. (gp10 probably best)
marks: mpen/hybrid pen/armour probably best options
fast sunfire is good if you can get it, leonas sustained damgae is really low compared to her tankiness.
warmogs is the best if you are behind, and just need to get an engage off, its EHP with leonas W is the best you can get. GA works too but its unlikely you'll get focused down hard enough that it will matter. Normally randuins is the best all around tank item, FH isn't bad. Trinity/IBG might be good late game.
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