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On April 01 2013 12:52 Sufficiency wrote: wtf. where is it here
I dunno, I noticed this after I posted -- I think the Sej thread hadn't been updated since the LoL Strategy forum was split off, and this thread was never moved; I couldn't find a Sejuani one in the new forum.
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I've changed my build from the last post, now I go machete+pots > Spirit stone > mobilities > warmogs, and then from there if they have lots of AD i'l finish my Spirit of ancient golem/sunfire. If they have magic damage, Banshees veil and possibly even an abyssal sceptre. Then I finish off my build with GA.
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God the new Sejuani rework is overpowered. The three first best in slot items, Tier 3 - Alacrity Ninja Tabi, Crest of the Ancient Golem, and Liandry' Torment make her DIE HARD.
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The old Sej was good, but just that
this new one is really solid and feells more sustaine-like
My normal build is
Machete, pots boots, spirit golem Warmogs and sunfire
This its the basic, give shit tons of HP and really do a decent damage, can kill carries or AP relative easily
the last two are positional, but i prefer more HP and armor
At the en 5000 HP and 330-350 armor
GAD!!!!
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One problem I have with her is that she is still really low after her first clear and it can be difficult ganking under those conditions
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On May 06 2013 23:18 Complete wrote:One problem I have with her is that she is still really low after her first clear and it can be difficult ganking under those conditions  Tbh how low you get on your first clear for almost every jungler is like at least 50% dependent on how much help you get on your first buff.
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the first few times i played reworked sejuani i took elder lizard instead of golem because i wanted more of the damages/
granted i think golem is better.
i want to play around with other stuff too. had a game where i got farmed as top lane and went golem/liandry's/sunfire/void. in retrospect abyssal was better.
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On May 07 2013 03:08 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 23:18 Complete wrote:One problem I have with her is that she is still really low after her first clear and it can be difficult ganking under those conditions  Tbh how low you get on your first clear for almost every jungler is like at least 50% dependent on how much help you get on your first buff.
Yeah, i think her first clear with the change to her passive is much much better.
Mistakes I keep seeing are Sej's not using their W as an auto attack reset early, and i see a lot of guys using the Magic pen masteries/runes when that dead weight on first clear too. Little things, but in whole clear make big difference.
In terms of damage items, just grabbing golems and sorc shoes is pretty big.
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I've just been getting cdr boots or ninja tabi, is sorc shoes really that good on sej?
Also, what reds should you take over mpen? aspd seems like a waste past the first 2 clears.
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On May 07 2013 09:19 Complete wrote: I've just been getting cdr boots or ninja tabi, is sorc shoes really that good on sej?
Also, what reds should you take over mpen? aspd seems like a waste past the first 2 clears. Mixed pen would seem decent. Expensive as all hell though.
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never really had a problem with the first clear since everyone nowadays does smiteless for you if there's no invade. and your level 3 ganks are pretty good because it's so easy to stick permafrost on people even if you miss your charge.
i would rather have mpen for the damages since 1st clear isn't all that bad.
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On May 07 2013 09:19 Complete wrote: I've just been getting cdr boots or ninja tabi, is sorc shoes really that good on sej?
Also, what reds should you take over mpen? aspd seems like a waste past the first 2 clears. I'm still in love with Mobos. But then again, I build her standard jungle tank so I value zoom zooming everywhere to back up my lanes.
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Sej can always dive with a good team, she freezes, slows, and knocks up disables all channels and chasers. Also she has great movement, she clears gaps and walls EZ PZ.
The bonus health dmg on the Flail of the Northern Winds is way too strong combined with Permafrost.
CC Tank movement High dmg
Sejuani is broken.
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My favorite jungler!
The bonus health dmg on the Flail of the Northern Winds is way too strong combined with Permafrost.
CC Tank movement High dmg
Sejuani is broken.
Dats the power of ice brohan! Look at Lissandra. What happens when there are bunch of people and she uses her ulti? GG IDRA, that's what happens.
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Man, new Sejuani is boss (other than when I make a field goal with the ult). Feels so strong.
I generally go spirit stone/tabi/sunfire/spirit of the ancient golem then abyssal's or bulwark. Feels so tanky, yet so much damage.
Also I'm cheeky and use spell vamp quints on her. My reasoning is as follows: I don't really feel like I need the movement speed, spell vamp is frakking awesome. Always clear, never not clear.
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On May 12 2013 03:31 zer0das wrote: Man, new Sejuani is boss (other than when I make a field goal with the ult). Feels so strong.
I generally go spirit stone/tabi/sunfire/spirit of the ancient golem then abyssal's or bulwark. Feels so tanky, yet so much damage.
Also I'm cheeky and use spell vamp quints on her. My reasoning is as follows: I don't really feel like I need the movement speed, spell vamp is frakking awesome. Always clear, never not clear. I rush Golem for even faster less mana intensive clearing + tenacity. I want to try Sunfire, but I never have enough for Giant's Belt until super late.
Mach5 > Boots > Dragonball > Mobo > Golem > Locket/Bulwark > Bulwark/Locket tends to be how I end up.
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I'm having a hard time believe Riot won't nerf Sej.
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She's just a tanky version of Elise that scales with health, it's still good, it's still good!
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Hi thoughts on builds? I always see people rave over liandries but I feel like its just not worth the money coming out of the jungle. But I may be thinking along season 2 lines of tanky jungle cc bot. Also I max w, but I always want to max q sort of like vi. Wut do?
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On May 12 2013 14:50 1godless wrote: Hi thoughts on builds? I always see people rave over liandries but I feel like its just not worth the money coming out of the jungle. But I may be thinking along season 2 lines of tanky jungle cc bot. Also I max w, but I always want to max q sort of like vi. Wut do?
People rave over Liandry's because it keeps her damage relevant all game. 3 of her abilities slow or impend movement, and then it grants Liandry's bonus % dmg.
Then you can build yourself as tanky as you need for any fight.
Tier 3 boots Liandrys
Sunfire Cape Warmog's Armor Crest of the Ancient Golem
Rylai's Crystal Scepter
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