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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 01 2012 18:13 GMT
#581
I just find it hilarious this thread is getting bumped ever since the news of bunny riven came out.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 01 2012 18:17 GMT
#582
Probably going to be the Easter skin if they have some sort of event for it.
It's your boy Guzma!
panzer
Profile Joined May 2009
93 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 19:27:53
April 01 2012 19:22 GMT
#583
On April 02 2012 03:13 wei2coolman wrote:
I just find it hilarious this thread is getting bumped ever since the news of bunny riven came out.


i just find it hilarious this thread was active before the news of bunny riven came out

+ Show Spoiler +
adjust the sarcasm detectors


the skin is nice, going to see a lot of bad rivens soon (interesting that the vandal gragas skin didnt call out all the fat men from the woods).
빈 수레가 요란하다
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 01 2012 20:40 GMT
#584
Oh yeah, one more thing. How is Jungle Riven doing now? I remember her being good, sort of ok when I left, but not like, top tier jungle caliber. Those DBlade openers still working or what?
It's your boy Guzma!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 01 2012 20:51 GMT
#585
On April 02 2012 05:40 Requizen wrote:
Oh yeah, one more thing. How is Jungle Riven doing now? I remember her being good, sort of ok when I left, but not like, top tier jungle caliber. Those DBlade openers still working or what?


Still good. Under the radar because of how strong top riven still is.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
April 01 2012 21:24 GMT
#586
How exactly does one jungle riven? I've read the last few pages and opinions seem to differ. dorans/wriggles, phage or no phage, atmogs/bt+ga, boots first vs dorans etc. Any definite suggestions?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 01 2012 22:03 GMT
#587
Well, it's hard to give anything definite because of how the jungle works, especially for a money dependent and scaling champ like Riven. You need a lot of money to get the lane-Riven style items, which you only get via jungle if you get a lot of ganks/counter jungling. Otherwise you might have to improvise with mid game items like Hexdrinker and Phage if you fall behind gold-wise, so there's no real hard-and-fast call on that. I used to have jungle games where I'd have a BT by like 25 minutes from ganks and more ganks, and others where I'll barely have a Wriggle's.

As far as build goes, you can start Bootsx3, Clothx5, or DBlade and have the same amount of success more or less. Hell, even Vamp Scepter openings can work, you just don't have any gank power.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 10:04:16
April 02 2012 10:03 GMT
#588
I always started dorans and it seemed to work, boots another good option. You just build cheap AD cost effective items like wriggles/bruta/hexdrinker/atmas/GA. I don't like phage on riven, hp not her best stat and slow far from needed especially when you're getting the red buffs.

max Q>E>W.
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
April 02 2012 11:08 GMT
#589
How do you beat Renekton as Riven? Every time I go against him I get destroyed.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
April 02 2012 11:38 GMT
#590
On April 02 2012 20:08 Lokrium wrote:
How do you beat Renekton as Riven? Every time I go against him I get destroyed.

Superior trades. You have much shorter cd's on w and e than renekton. If you want to trade stay out of the creeps so he gets back the minimum possible hp from his q. You also want to try and fight when his fury is low, so he isn't dealing any free damage. Also your ult is on a way way lower cd. 70 down to 45 while renekton ult stays at 120. That's right, you can almost ult 3 times for his one at lvl 3 ult. You have all the tools to trade favorably, and that's all you have to do. Ult early if you want to force a fight, walk away once he uses his or finish him off, then you'll have 50 or more seconds to kill him with your next ult.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
April 02 2012 12:46 GMT
#591
Hey I'm usually really passive I'n top lane as riven and just get my farm on (125 I'n 15 min thank you very much ^_^ I've been playing for like 2 months so I'm proud of this lol) is this the right way to go about it? I just hit lvl 30 and I finally got all my runes and I was wondering if I should be more aggressive?
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
April 02 2012 12:52 GMT
#592
Depends on the matchups. Some you can be super aggressive, some a more advantageous approach, and a few passive.

This guide has a strong section on matchups and has helped me a lot in the last few weeks.
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=16914
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 02 2012 14:23 GMT
#593
On April 02 2012 19:03 Slayer91 wrote:
I always started dorans and it seemed to work, boots another good option. You just build cheap AD cost effective items like wriggles/bruta/hexdrinker/atmas/GA. I don't like phage on riven, hp not her best stat and slow far from needed especially when you're getting the red buffs.

max Q>E>W.

Q max in jungle? I hadn't really thought of it, but now that I do, that probably makes for pretty fast clears.

I generally liked Phage just for FMallet if I'm not going pure AD BT/GA/LW/BT route, the health on top of your GA makes you a great bruiser. That said, I'd prefer the heavy AD build, but like I said, it's not always feasible in the jungle.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 02 2012 14:29 GMT
#594
If you want phage just for mallet I'd just get warmogs, but rivens shield should be enough on top of GA for hp.

Q is way better for jungling, I wouldn't even consider W.
noggnoskill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States97 Posts
April 02 2012 16:06 GMT
#595
On April 02 2012 23:23 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 19:03 Slayer91 wrote:
I always started dorans and it seemed to work, boots another good option. You just build cheap AD cost effective items like wriggles/bruta/hexdrinker/atmas/GA. I don't like phage on riven, hp not her best stat and slow far from needed especially when you're getting the red buffs.

max Q>E>W.

Q max in jungle? I hadn't really thought of it, but now that I do, that probably makes for pretty fast clears.

I generally liked Phage just for FMallet if I'm not going pure AD BT/GA/LW/BT route, the health on top of your GA makes you a great bruiser. That said, I'd prefer the heavy AD build, but like I said, it's not always feasible in the jungle.


Wraiths get instagibbed around level 4-5, it's pretty strong. I really don't like Mallet on Riven because it feels like I'm committing some sort of sick twisted sin if I'm not taking advantage of her ridiculous AD ratios. Her stun(s), mobility, and ranged execute should be enough to secure a kill on anyone who won't take a century to kill anyway (lee singah, udyr).
Never forget, JAYM 4/4/2012
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 02 2012 17:31 GMT
#596
On April 03 2012 01:06 noggnoskill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 23:23 Requizen wrote:
On April 02 2012 19:03 Slayer91 wrote:
I always started dorans and it seemed to work, boots another good option. You just build cheap AD cost effective items like wriggles/bruta/hexdrinker/atmas/GA. I don't like phage on riven, hp not her best stat and slow far from needed especially when you're getting the red buffs.

max Q>E>W.

Q max in jungle? I hadn't really thought of it, but now that I do, that probably makes for pretty fast clears.

I generally liked Phage just for FMallet if I'm not going pure AD BT/GA/LW/BT route, the health on top of your GA makes you a great bruiser. That said, I'd prefer the heavy AD build, but like I said, it's not always feasible in the jungle.


Wraiths get instagibbed around level 4-5, it's pretty strong. I really don't like Mallet on Riven because it feels like I'm committing some sort of sick twisted sin if I'm not taking advantage of her ridiculous AD ratios. Her stun(s), mobility, and ranged execute should be enough to secure a kill on anyone who won't take a century to kill anyway (lee singah, udyr).

I never get Phage/Mallet without Atma, but then again I rarely get them in the first place. I know I brought it up, but they're highly situational, and I generally only get them when there's no bulk on the team and I'm expected to be more beefy. Usually, on a balanced team with a more traditional bruiser, straight AD is the best 100% of the time.
It's your boy Guzma!
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
April 02 2012 23:07 GMT
#597
On April 02 2012 21:46 MindBreaker wrote:
Hey I'm usually really passive I'n top lane as riven and just get my farm on (125 I'n 15 min thank you very much ^_^ I've been playing for like 2 months so I'm proud of this lol) is this the right way to go about it? I just hit lvl 30 and I finally got all my runes and I was wondering if I should be more aggressive?


generally, with non-casters like riven and gp, you have ~3 levels (depending on the matchup) to crap on whoevers top. after that, they usually have the edge. with riven, its about winning trades.
if you can go in with your q, land a w and a few autoattacks, then use your e to escape while absorbing their damage, you can bring them lower and lower.
but for the most part, you scale better than everyone else, so passive farming works.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
April 03 2012 08:37 GMT
#598
On April 03 2012 08:07 courtpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 21:46 MindBreaker wrote:
Hey I'm usually really passive I'n top lane as riven and just get my farm on (125 I'n 15 min thank you very much ^_^ I've been playing for like 2 months so I'm proud of this lol) is this the right way to go about it? I just hit lvl 30 and I finally got all my runes and I was wondering if I should be more aggressive?


generally, with non-casters like riven and gp, you have ~3 levels (depending on the matchup) to crap on whoevers top. after that, they usually have the edge. with riven, its about winning trades.
if you can go in with your q, land a w and a few autoattacks, then use your e to escape while absorbing their damage, you can bring them lower and lower.
but for the most part, you scale better than everyone else, so passive farming works.

Excuse me, what? In a lot (I'd almost say the majority) of matchups, GP comes to mind, you don't start getting aggressive until level 3. Same with Nida, and against Udyr, the time you gain the advantage should usually be around lvl 6 because well, you actually have an ultimate.


Yeah - passive farming works. It's far away from playing Riven optimally, though. If you have struggle knowing when to be aggressive, I suggest making this your bible.
currently rooting for myself.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 07 2012 05:27 GMT
#599
Bleh, had a crap game against a Trynd. I let him sit at full rage and freefarmed against one another, full on derp mode on my part. Once I actually started dueling him, he wasn't really a problem I found.
It's your boy Guzma!
Qyntus Decimus
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands9 Posts
April 08 2012 02:26 GMT
#600
On April 02 2012 21:46 MindBreaker wrote:
Hey I'm usually really passive I'n top lane as riven and just get my farm on (125 I'n 15 min thank you very much ^_^ I've been playing for like 2 months so I'm proud of this lol) is this the right way to go about it? I just hit lvl 30 and I finally got all my runes and I was wondering if I should be more aggressive?


You should try to get a bit more agressive against some champions. It could net you in some nice early kills to snowball out of controll. Its not unusual for me to take a very early first blood with Riven and just laugh as your opponent sits under its tower waiting for the waves to get there. AA -> Q -> AA -> Q -> AA -> Q -> AA -> W -> AA -> Ignite will usually net you first blood at lvl 2-3. If he flashes you could even flash after in to secure the kill.


Now for the RIven discussion what do you guys think about going 2-3 Doran's blade and than just stacking BT's until you feel like you need a guardians angel. This is working great so far, but I'm still low elo.
You see banelings are a lot like rape..
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