EPT[Champion] Pantheon - Page 20
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On January 05 2012 08:34 Alzadar wrote: Hahaha, just played a game where they sent Karma top against my Pantheon. Their Lee Sin didn't even try a gank until I was 4/0 and level 9, which is way too late to do anything. So far in my Pantheon playing the only person that's given me any real trouble has been Cho'Gath stacking armor, how do you deal with that? I went Last Whisper first but then the game got funky and for some reason we kept having teamfights toplane, so I never really got to lane extensively against Cho after that. Even so, it didn't seem like I was doing anywhere near enough damage to prevent him from just farming and regening what I hit him with. Chogath absolutely wrecks pantheon in every way shape and form and short of being significantly better than him you will straight out lose. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 05 2012 22:59 Alaric wrote: Against stuff like Parrrley? Shouldn't the banshee pop anyway? I know it has the same priority as spells, since Sivir's and Nocturne's shields can be popped at the same time as their banshee with a single spell, but since it's a passive... Yes, for Parley and all the on hit spells. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 05 2012 23:23 TwoToneTerran wrote: Chogath absolutely wrecks pantheon in every way shape and form and short of being significantly better than him you will straight out lose. honestly I don't find cho to be a problem until he gets a chain vest, but once that happens, it's a one way ticket to frown town for Pantheon  . | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 06 2012 01:16 Alaric wrote: Isn't this valid for all champs tho, unless you managed to build a sizeable lead before that arrives? Or is it that as much as you can bully Cho, he'll manage to farm anyway thanks to his kit and passive so he'll get his chain vest soon enough no matter what? You can still ruin a lot of people after they get chain vest, but cho's infinite sustain, creep pushing, and gank supporting make it particularly difficult to deal with once he gets a chain vest, not to mention it doesn't hurt his threat level to you as much as say, forcing a riven to rush chain vest. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 06 2012 01:32 Shikyo wrote: I highly doubt you can even force a Riven to rush chain vest, in my opinion ninja tabi + wriggles should be enough to deal with panth right, but that's not as much armor as quickly and she's behind the whole time. cho can literally spend his first 700 on a chain vest and still be problematic for you. that's the point I'm trying to make. | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On January 06 2012 01:32 Shikyo wrote: I highly doubt you can even force a Riven to rush chain vest, in my opinion ninja tabi + wriggles should be enough to deal with panth Yeah, but that's like 2300 gold down the drain. Haven't played a smart one (aka. one that maxes E against Panth) yet, but I'd be surprised if she'd get Wriggle's+Tabi in a reasonable amount of time. Today, I bossed a Nidalee around who rushed Tabi (by the time I already had Bruta, huehue) and Wriggle's right after. Surprisingly, the matchup was really easy, because the sustain from Wriggle's is inexistant if she never gets near a single creep. | ||
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deskscaress
United States399 Posts
On January 06 2012 03:23 Shiv. wrote: Yeah, but that's like 2300 gold down the drain. Haven't played a smart one (aka. one that maxes E against Panth) yet, but I'd be surprised if she'd get Wriggle's+Tabi in a reasonable amount of time. Today, I bossed a Nidalee around who rushed Tabi (by the time I already had Bruta, huehue) and Wriggle's right after. Surprisingly, the matchup was really easy, because the sustain from Wriggle's is inexistant if she never gets near a single creep. wriggles tabi is core on riven so that's not exactly down the drain | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On January 06 2012 03:24 deskscaress wrote: wriggles tabi is core on riven so that's not exactly down the drain I'd imagine Riven would want mercs over tabi since she's not going to get much magic resist from items outside of GA. Masteries and runes only cover so much. But yea, I agree with your basic premise tho. | ||
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deskscaress
United States399 Posts
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On January 06 2012 03:24 deskscaress wrote: wriggles tabi is core on riven so that's not exactly down the drain I might have misworded that. I was trying to put across that she magically has to get 2000+ gold and that's just not gonna happen in a reasonable amount of time against Panth. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 06 2012 03:23 Shiv. wrote: Yeah, but that's like 2300 gold down the drain. Haven't played a smart one (aka. one that maxes E against Panth) yet, but I'd be surprised if she'd get Wriggle's+Tabi in a reasonable amount of time. Today, I bossed a Nidalee around who rushed Tabi (by the time I already had Bruta, huehue) and Wriggle's right after. Surprisingly, the matchup was really easy, because the sustain from Wriggle's is inexistant if she never gets near a single creep. nidalee needs early jungle help badly. she relies too much on auto-attacks for early harass and her heal gets absolutely shit on by spear shot in terms of mana efficiency. if she makes it to 6 in a reasonable amount of time without being too far back on CS, she can be fine though. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On January 06 2012 06:04 Mogwai wrote: ummmmmm you throw spears at her. always spear chucking, never not spear chucking. commit to the fight when she's about to die, or just run her out of mana and force her off the lane. And by the time she gets a wriggle's, you can draw creep aggro like a baws. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
We won the game though. Built Hexdrinker, ignored Morde and dived their squishies. | ||
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