[Champion] Pantheon - Page 18
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Haemonculus
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Terranasaur
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 04 2012 00:46 Terranasaur wrote: Any tips on laning Panth against Yorick? I just got my ass handed to me. I got FB at level 1, but he just came back to lane and started chucking ghouls at me every time I got close enough for a spear. It was pretty sad to watch really... did you forget to back after you got fb? the matchup's pretty impossible after awhile, but for the early levels, you can get all up in his grill and kill him if he tries to fight. I dunno, it is a bad matchup, but if you had trouble pre-tear, you probably did something wrong. | ||
zer0das
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 04 2012 09:24 zer0das wrote: Are there any champions that can deal with Pantheon that well as a solo top (beyond like, Garen/Yorick?), or do I just need to start running full armor pages if I go top against this jerk? Laned against him as Wukong with cloth/5 pots, armor seals/defensive masteries, never really felt like I could much of anything... granted my jungler fed him a kill, so that probably made it that much harder. I saw Kennen mentioned earlier, but I don't own that prick yet. malphite's the simple answer tbh. open cloth + 5, stack a couple dshields and spam /t at him. | ||
arto
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LoCicero
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On January 04 2012 14:29 arto wrote: I am not sure if I have really terrible luck or failure to play well, but I can completely dominate my lane and still just cannot bring that into a win as Pantheon. Most games I will get kills or just force my opponent back frequently enough where they will be multiple levels behind, but as soon as laning ends its feels like a losing battle as people begin to group up and just focus me. This is what separates good Pantheons from great Pantheons. Late game can be hard to manage, the biggest thing I can suggest is to not just blindly W onto an enemy carry. Use your W to reposition yourself out of danger from an AP or AD carry (or even a bruiser). Try to hit multiple targets with your heartseeker, don't try to heartseeker high risk targets, just try to put out some good damage on more than one target. Save your W to reposition yourself into a less threatening position during fights and be smart. Lategame is hard as Panth and requires a large amount of finesse. | ||
Mogwai
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UniversalSnip
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Shikyo
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RandomAccount#49059
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OutlaW-
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On January 04 2012 15:45 Shikyo wrote: Um it's always better :S meh. i think the first few levels aren't worth using because even tho it might do more damage, they can leave the aoe pretty easily and it's channeling so you're standing still (ie not sticking to them). That's just me tho On January 04 2012 15:50 stormtemplar wrote: I've been PWNING my 1000 elo opponents with panth top, mostly due to this guide, so thanks. I wanted to ask, how do I jungle him, so I can slaugher people even if someone takes solo top after I ask for it? Boots+3pot. More or less same masteries/runes as lane panth. Jungle is pretty weak so it doesn't really matter in all honesty. Same skill build because E doesn't do jack to minions at low levels and the cd is still significant enough. So Q>W/E>Q>E/W>Q>R. Then Q>R/E>W. More or less same item build except you may want to invest in wriggles. Personally, I'd rather just get 2 dorans. Panth jungle is a bit cheesy tho 'cause you need to get successful ganks or you'll fall behind. On January 04 2012 17:08 OutlaW- wrote: Do u get +1.5% damage or 3% lifesteal? Lifesteal imo 'cause that plus 2 dorans plus your E passive means you have pretty good sustain from just last hitting. | ||
OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
too bad my team couldnt initiate and we lost to a good nocturne cassio combo | ||
Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On January 04 2012 17:08 OutlaW- wrote: Do u get +1.5% damage or 3% lifesteal? 1,5% increased damage is quite low when you think about it. If you deal 1000 damage per hit it gives you an extra 15 damage. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 04 2012 17:08 OutlaW- wrote: Do u get +1.5% damage or 3% lifesteal? the masteries are a clickable link to how I allocate the points. but to answer your question, lifesteal. lifesteal masteries double your initial lifesteal in lane, and that's a real big deal, especially when you're showing up without potions. | ||
ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On December 29 2011 10:35 Mogwai wrote: build up your passive and block parrrleys. it's really not hard, no idea how you fuck the matchup up tbh =\. sounds like you got scared and blinked first on the level 1 fight (autolose) or picked it where you were eating too much creep agro (which makes no sense vs. GP since he won't commit vs. you and your passive negates his harass trades). Or he got crit twice in a row by a stupid 4% chance which happens. If they crit you with Parley it does just under 200 dmg lv 1 which is kinda retarded. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 05 2012 01:09 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Or he got crit twice in a row by a stupid 4% chance which happens. If they crit you with Parley it does just under 200 dmg lv 1 which is kinda retarded. well, right, if the 0.16% chance of double crit parley happens when you commit to a fight (otherwise there's no excuse for you to not have your passive up when he parleys you), sure I guess that'll lose you the lane, but that's pretty clearly a sign of horrid luck and not a general matchup issue. | ||
Two_DoWn
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RandomAccount#49059
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