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Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
December 29 2011 02:44 GMT
#321
On December 29 2011 10:35 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 02:05 Makavw wrote:
I tried to follow the guidlines here and force the level 1 fight, he came out of it waaay better then me and then he proceded to deny me. I couldnt autoattack creeps since he was there and spent evrey parley at me if i came close. And he had frikin 5 more potions and i could only stare with doran .

Spear base dmg is higher, but i only get extra dmg from any AD i get after. He gets base AD on top of his parley meaning that parley did more dmg then my spear at 1 on top of his extra armor from cloth + runes.


I dunno, beeing gp player myself as well i dont see anything that can pantheon do better then gp at solo top , and i so wanted to try him out more :/

build up your passive and block parrrleys. it's really not hard, no idea how you fuck the matchup up tbh =\. sounds like you got scared and blinked first on the level 1 fight (autolose) or picked it where you were eating too much creep agro (which makes no sense vs. GP since he won't commit vs. you and your passive negates his harass trades).


Smash, is there any chance you could post a replay of this type of harass with the counting of the passive? I would be truly grateful!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 29 2011 10:49 GMT
#322
On December 29 2011 08:14 cougar22 wrote:
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On December 29 2011 04:11 warscythes wrote:
Quick question here

Is smart casting E a good idea? I tried it for awhile but it just does not feel natural to me, should I keep trying and get used to it or is it better to manually cast it.


I smartcast it, a lot easier that way in my opinion. Hover your mouse over enemy and press W>E for your combo.

I used to smartcast it but often the cursor is on such a spot that the cast won't go off, even when I'm not mousing over myself, really annoying so I stopped smartcasting it.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Makavw
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 14:01:15
December 29 2011 13:59 GMT
#323
Yea i probbably picked a fight with too much aggro. After the inital exchange he just didnt let me go near my creeps to build up passive and he could allow himself that since he was on 100% hp with 3 pots left and i was half with doran :/.

Got wrecked by riven today as well, she also started armor runes + cloth and maxed her shield. My spears did next to no dmg.
Sigh, I am a crappy pantheon :D
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 29 2011 18:34 GMT
#324
On December 29 2011 11:44 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 10:35 Mogwai wrote:
On December 29 2011 02:05 Makavw wrote:
I tried to follow the guidlines here and force the level 1 fight, he came out of it waaay better then me and then he proceded to deny me. I couldnt autoattack creeps since he was there and spent evrey parley at me if i came close. And he had frikin 5 more potions and i could only stare with doran .

Spear base dmg is higher, but i only get extra dmg from any AD i get after. He gets base AD on top of his parley meaning that parley did more dmg then my spear at 1 on top of his extra armor from cloth + runes.


I dunno, beeing gp player myself as well i dont see anything that can pantheon do better then gp at solo top , and i so wanted to try him out more :/

build up your passive and block parrrleys. it's really not hard, no idea how you fuck the matchup up tbh =\. sounds like you got scared and blinked first on the level 1 fight (autolose) or picked it where you were eating too much creep agro (which makes no sense vs. GP since he won't commit vs. you and your passive negates his harass trades).


Smash, is there any chance you could post a replay of this type of harass with the counting of the passive? I would be truly grateful!

about to play the matchup on stream: http://www.justin.tv/smashgizmo
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 30 2011 05:56 GMT
#325
adding a vod section and including a game vs. trynd
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 30 2011 05:58 GMT
#326
On December 30 2011 14:56 Mogwai wrote:
adding a vod section and including a game vs. trynd

<3
Best guide writer on TL bar none
goldenkrnboi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3104 Posts
December 30 2011 07:58 GMT
#327
^seriously.

buy pantheon, have no idea what i'm doing, get steamrolled
read smash's guide on TL, do decently, but still win half/lose half
watch 1 recording of him playing, rolling like a boss
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
December 30 2011 08:09 GMT
#328
On December 30 2011 14:56 Mogwai wrote:
adding a vod section and including a game vs. trynd



Holy Check! Can't wait to check these out. Thanks man.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
December 30 2011 08:39 GMT
#329
Spoil us all day
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 30 2011 20:12 GMT
#330
wow sweet... thank you smash.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
kepael
Profile Joined July 2011
United States177 Posts
December 30 2011 20:33 GMT
#331
I've got a question about that trynd game, smash. Why did you start pushing the lane again after you killed trynd the second time, instead of freezing it in front of you tower? It seems like you could've just kept him away from all the farm for the entire laning phase if you'd frozen it instead.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 31 2011 18:16 GMT
#332
You ever try opening Red elixir and some hp pots over dblade?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
January 01 2012 09:43 GMT
#333
On January 01 2012 03:16 JackDino wrote:
You ever try opening Red elixir and some hp pots over dblade?


ppl stopped doing that after the elixer nerfs, something along the lines of just not being cost-efficient enough to justify an all-consumable start. There used to be a fairly interesting triangle between dblade+pot vs boots+3 vs elixer+5 for pantheon (as well as a few others). I dont remember exactly how they interacted with each other tho, it's been so long.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 01 2012 10:53 GMT
#334
On January 01 2012 18:43 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 03:16 JackDino wrote:
You ever try opening Red elixir and some hp pots over dblade?


ppl stopped doing that after the elixer nerfs, something along the lines of just not being cost-efficient enough to justify an all-consumable start. There used to be a fairly interesting triangle between dblade+pot vs boots+3 vs elixer+5 for pantheon (as well as a few others). I dont remember exactly how they interacted with each other tho, it's been so long.

The thing is, elixir gives you more hp, same damage, no lifesteal but you get a few pots in trade, couldn't it be better for some matchups or dblade all the way.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
January 01 2012 11:41 GMT
#335
I see tops get red pots after their first or second back fairly often, but starting it is just meh.
twitch.tv/cratonz
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
January 01 2012 22:54 GMT
#336
Oh man, cutlass after boots is so fun sometimes.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
January 02 2012 02:01 GMT
#337
smash what day/time do you usually stream?
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 02 2012 03:48 GMT
#338
now that the holidays are over, it'll probably be odd hours on the weekend and later than 6 PM EST on weekdays.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 02 2012 03:51 GMT
#339
and red pot is a bad opening since the nerf. it was only even strong when it was like 200 HP and 20 AD for 300 gold. that shit was broken, but now it's pretty meh.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 02 2012 18:29 GMT
#340
If you go leona pant bot, do you open boots3 or dblade?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
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