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On December 29 2011 10:35 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2011 02:05 Makavw wrote:I tried to follow the guidlines here and force the level 1 fight, he came out of it waaay better then me and then he proceded to deny me. I couldnt autoattack creeps since he was there and spent evrey parley at me if i came close. And he had frikin 5 more potions and i could only stare with doran  . Spear base dmg is higher, but i only get extra dmg from any AD i get after. He gets base AD on top of his parley meaning that parley did more dmg then my spear at 1 on top of his extra armor from cloth + runes. I dunno, beeing gp player myself as well i dont see anything that can pantheon do better then gp at solo top , and i so wanted to try him out more :/ build up your passive and block parrrleys. it's really not hard, no idea how you fuck the matchup up tbh =\. sounds like you got scared and blinked first on the level 1 fight (autolose) or picked it where you were eating too much creep agro (which makes no sense vs. GP since he won't commit vs. you and your passive negates his harass trades).
Smash, is there any chance you could post a replay of this type of harass with the counting of the passive? I would be truly grateful!
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On December 29 2011 08:14 cougar22 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2011 04:11 warscythes wrote:
Quick question here
Is smart casting E a good idea? I tried it for awhile but it just does not feel natural to me, should I keep trying and get used to it or is it better to manually cast it. I smartcast it, a lot easier that way in my opinion. Hover your mouse over enemy and press W>E for your combo.
I used to smartcast it but often the cursor is on such a spot that the cast won't go off, even when I'm not mousing over myself, really annoying so I stopped smartcasting it.
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Yea i probbably picked a fight with too much aggro. After the inital exchange he just didnt let me go near my creeps to build up passive and he could allow himself that since he was on 100% hp with 3 pots left and i was half with doran :/.
Got wrecked by riven today as well, she also started armor runes + cloth and maxed her shield. My spears did next to no dmg.
Sigh, I am a crappy pantheon :D
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On December 29 2011 11:44 Eishi_Ki wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2011 10:35 Mogwai wrote:On December 29 2011 02:05 Makavw wrote:I tried to follow the guidlines here and force the level 1 fight, he came out of it waaay better then me and then he proceded to deny me. I couldnt autoattack creeps since he was there and spent evrey parley at me if i came close. And he had frikin 5 more potions and i could only stare with doran . Spear base dmg is higher, but i only get extra dmg from any AD i get after. He gets base AD on top of his parley meaning that parley did more dmg then my spear at 1 on top of his extra armor from cloth + runes. I dunno, beeing gp player myself as well i dont see anything that can pantheon do better then gp at solo top , and i so wanted to try him out more :/ build up your passive and block parrrleys. it's really not hard, no idea how you fuck the matchup up tbh =\. sounds like you got scared and blinked first on the level 1 fight (autolose) or picked it where you were eating too much creep agro (which makes no sense vs. GP since he won't commit vs. you and your passive negates his harass trades). Smash, is there any chance you could post a replay of this type of harass with the counting of the passive? I would be truly grateful!
about to play the matchup on stream: http://www.justin.tv/smashgizmo
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adding a vod section and including a game vs. trynd
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On December 30 2011 14:56 Mogwai wrote:
adding a vod section and including a game vs. trynd
<3
Best guide writer on TL bar none
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^seriously.
buy pantheon, have no idea what i'm doing, get steamrolled
read smash's guide on TL, do decently, but still win half/lose half
watch 1 recording of him playing, rolling like a boss
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On December 30 2011 14:56 Mogwai wrote:
adding a vod section and including a game vs. trynd
Holy Check! Can't wait to check these out. Thanks man.
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wow sweet... thank you smash.
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I've got a question about that trynd game, smash. Why did you start pushing the lane again after you killed trynd the second time, instead of freezing it in front of you tower? It seems like you could've just kept him away from all the farm for the entire laning phase if you'd frozen it instead.
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You ever try opening Red elixir and some hp pots over dblade?
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On January 01 2012 03:16 JackDino wrote:
You ever try opening Red elixir and some hp pots over dblade?
ppl stopped doing that after the elixer nerfs, something along the lines of just not being cost-efficient enough to justify an all-consumable start. There used to be a fairly interesting triangle between dblade+pot vs boots+3 vs elixer+5 for pantheon (as well as a few others). I dont remember exactly how they interacted with each other tho, it's been so long.
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On January 01 2012 18:43 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 03:16 JackDino wrote:
You ever try opening Red elixir and some hp pots over dblade? ppl stopped doing that after the elixer nerfs, something along the lines of just not being cost-efficient enough to justify an all-consumable start. There used to be a fairly interesting triangle between dblade+pot vs boots+3 vs elixer+5 for pantheon (as well as a few others). I dont remember exactly how they interacted with each other tho, it's been so long.
The thing is, elixir gives you more hp, same damage, no lifesteal but you get a few pots in trade, couldn't it be better for some matchups or dblade all the way.
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I see tops get red pots after their first or second back fairly often, but starting it is just meh.
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Oh man, cutlass after boots is so fun sometimes.
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smash what day/time do you usually stream?
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now that the holidays are over, it'll probably be odd hours on the weekend and later than 6 PM EST on weekdays.
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and red pot is a bad opening since the nerf. it was only even strong when it was like 200 HP and 20 AD for 300 gold. that shit was broken, but now it's pretty meh.
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If you go leona pant bot, do you open boots3 or dblade?
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EPT
