EPTHow's trinity first with revised phage? Do people think it's better than BotRK rush?
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How's trinity first with revised phage? Do people think it's better than BotRK rush? | ||
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NotSorry
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Mogwai
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FinestHour
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or should u just pick one or the other | ||
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Mogwai
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Lord Tolkien
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On August 25 2013 13:02 FinestHour wrote: is botrk then triforce bad or anything in terms of delaying other stuff i feel those 2 items are so good on her or should u just pick one or the other BorK is still better than Triforce in most situations; better lane sustain, better vs health tank tops (whom are otherwise a problem). BorK into Triforce means that unless you're dedicating yourself to dueling top lane and drawing aggro. Unless your teamcomp allows you to cleanup in teamfights, you're going to blow up unless you and your team are hideously ahead. More often than not, getting a Randuins, Frozen Mallet, or SV is simply better if you're expecting to teamfight soon. | ||
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Amui
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On August 25 2013 18:06 Lord Tolkien wrote: BorK is still better than Triforce in most situations; better lane sustain, better vs health tank tops (whom are otherwise a problem). BorK into Triforce means that unless you're dedicating yourself to dueling top lane and drawing aggro. Unless your teamcomp allows you to cleanup in teamfights, you're going to blow up unless you and your team are hideously ahead. More often than not, getting a Randuins, Frozen Mallet, or SV is simply better if you're expecting to teamfight soon. Bork is significantly better in all scenario's not involving having to use bladesurge to oneshot a high HP creep to make plays happen. It's straight up better against anybody who builds tanky. I think I'd only build triforce against certain AP lanes just for the stronger burst damage and outplay potential. I think almost every game I play I'd go damage item(with 1-2 dorans as necessary), and then tank up. Pretty much impossible to do anything useful in a teamfight without some tank items. After a couple tank items(generally rand/SV+GA), if I have the chance to go for the other offensive item I'd do it. Zephyr in combination with SV and maybe a blue pot gets pretty silly though. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
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Gahlo
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Slayer91
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Gahlo
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On October 19 2013 19:48 Slayer91 wrote: after you finish the trinity Which feels too late by then. Idk, maybe I just need to play around with it more. | ||
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Slayer91
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you can play irelia as behind and still rushing trinity but it takes a lot more reliance on your team and finesse | ||
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Gahlo
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On October 19 2013 20:00 Slayer91 wrote: dont do badly earlier game, you want to have trinity before big fights start and a level advantage enough that you dont rely on tank items when you're a solo laner with good base stats you can play irelia as behind and still rushing trinity but it takes a lot more reliance on your team and finesse It's usually by the time I hit Phage+Sheen while going even. Obviously if I'm super ahead it isn't an issue. | ||
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HughMyron
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I think the one place Irelia is better than Jax is against Ranged Toplaners. So I keep her as a counterpick against the occasional weirdo who goes Lissandra or Quinn Top. | ||
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Gahlo
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On October 20 2013 05:38 HughMyron wrote: Honestly, I really can't justify choosing Irelia right now when there's Jax, who does more damage and is tankier. Irelia's advantages over him, involving CC-resistance, on-demand CC, and sustain, aren't really that useful right now. I think the one place Irelia is better than Jax is against Ranged Toplaners. So I keep her as a counterpick against the occasional weirdo who goes Lissandra or Quinn Top. I only really pick her when Riven isn't an option and some turd decides Jax in the jungle sounds like a good idea. | ||
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HughMyron
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On October 20 2013 05:42 Gahlo wrote: I only really pick her when Riven isn't an option and some turd decides Jax in the jungle sounds like a good idea. I'm more afraid of Jax and Darius than Riven, though Riven will beat Irelia until level 9 and some armor I think. IIRC, Irelia Carries U said that Irelia can outlane Jax until about Level 11, but I never figured out how that worked. Also, Irelia has a nice derriere, while Jax doesn't, but unfortunately, Ass != Elo. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On October 20 2013 05:38 HughMyron wrote: Honestly, I really can't justify choosing Irelia right now when there's Jax, who does more damage and is tankier. Irelia's advantages over him, involving CC-resistance, on-demand CC, and sustain, aren't really that useful right now. I think the one place Irelia is better than Jax is against Ranged Toplaners. So I keep her as a counterpick against the occasional weirdo who goes Lissandra or Quinn Top. I feel like Irelia handles "vs. manaless bully" top lane matchups much better too, due to having sustain that she doesn't need to spend mana on, and the super short-CD stun. Jax really struggles in matchups like that. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
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On October 20 2013 05:45 HughMyron wrote: I'm more afraid of Jax and Darius than Riven, though Riven will beat Irelia until level 9 and some armor I think. IIRC, Irelia Carries U said that Irelia can outlane Jax until about Level 11, but I never figured out how that worked. Also, Irelia has a nice derriere, while Jax doesn't, but unfortunately, Ass != Elo. Irelia > Jax -> Jax has no face. Irelia is better. Irelia > Darius -> really bad match up honestly would never pick it but Irelia is so hot + Darius looks like an ugly little bitch. Seriously fuck that guy Irelia > Riven -> I love both my women but unless Riven is using the exile skin Irelia all the way | ||
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