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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 23:32:36
May 23 2012 23:31 GMT
#361
rounding these values

1400 ap
1460 ad
675 lifesteal
570 vamp

1400 + 1460 + 675 + 570 = 4105
4105 - 3625 = 480

what are you talking about O_o. Are you using the small items for base stats for some reason?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 00:06:40
May 24 2012 00:01 GMT
#362
i get

40*1650/65+15*450/10+70*1600/80+20*330/12BTW i exceled this shit yo. im being real with these numbers
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 24 2012 00:11 GMT
#363
Then there's the question of whether the gold is useful. Baron gives you a ton of gold in health regen... but then again... It gives you health regen...
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 24 2012 00:15 GMT
#364
On May 24 2012 09:01 storkfan wrote:
i get

40*1650/65+15*450/10+70*1600/80+20*330/12BTW i exceled this shit yo. im being real with these numbers


you exceled it huh... lol

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhhAugu1Z2aPdDBZc1oxYk9NckNqQ053RzhzY2ZHdkE&authkey=CJ37vt8P&hl=en&authkey=CJ37vt8P&pli=1#gid=0
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 24 2012 00:26 GMT
#365
If there's one thing I've learned while making excel spreadsheets for champions is that, without fail, you'll find an erroneous formula somewhere a week later and you'll wonder how you let it slip by for so long.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 24 2012 00:31 GMT
#366
On May 24 2012 09:26 phyvo wrote:
If there's one thing I've learned while making excel spreadsheets for champions is that, without fail, you'll find an erroneous formula somewhere a week later and you'll wonder how you let it slip by for so long.

Lol. I used to notice the same thing when making my grade calculation spreadsheets.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 00:36:22
May 24 2012 00:32 GMT
#367
K i had bf sword wrong. with updated values its
4091,666667 for gunblade + active
4727,848485 for tf (ur spreadsheet doesnt include movement speed value) + sheen and slow, meaning tf still has better value if you assume equal value for the addons.

the point is u can get ur sustain from double dorans and with tf you are overall a much meaner killing machine than with gunblade and u can build the metagolem off of it which scales incredibly well to late game... or get BT which is worth 4500 gold lol
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 04:20:28
May 24 2012 04:17 GMT
#368
idk, I generally see gunblade before trinity in most of the Jax players I've come across these days, both in progames and solo queue games.

wingsofdeath is playing Jax right now with gunblade into trinity as well. The Jax build that has stabilized now with the latest Jax changes is pretty similar to the old pre-remake Jax in how hybrid offensive items are the core. Except now it isn't gunblade -> rageblade but gunblade -> trinity.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
May 24 2012 06:43 GMT
#369
How do you guys play Jax vs Olaf? I just can't seem to win that lane, even against fellow 1600's.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 24 2012 08:05 GMT
#370
jax vs olaf use your w np. i think its a pretty even lane with jax pulling ahead later. also the koreanz go triforce first so of course its optimal
GANDHISAUCE
Celestia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico376 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 08:23:44
May 24 2012 08:22 GMT
#371
Nerf this imba champion, please.

Seriously, how do I trade vs him if I use Irelia? I have only encounter him twice in top lane, so all I only have is theorycraft for now (need someone with experience to describe how the match should be).

User was warned for whining
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 24 2012 08:32 GMT
#372
jax hard counters irelia, pick someone else like shen or nasus
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
May 24 2012 08:41 GMT
#373
On May 24 2012 17:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
jax hard counters irelia, pick someone else like shen or nasus


Why doesn't jax shit on nasus O_O
can i get my estro logo back pls
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 24 2012 08:44 GMT
#374
jax is an attack-speed based champion
wither destroys AS based champs
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
May 24 2012 10:15 GMT
#375
On May 24 2012 17:44 gtrsrs wrote:
jax is an attack-speed based champion
wither destroys AS based champs

ok pre 6, but after jax is so op he can just go and manhandle nasus
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 10:24:43
May 24 2012 10:22 GMT
#376
On May 24 2012 13:17 koreasilver wrote:
idk, I generally see gunblade before trinity in most of the Jax players I've come across these days, both in progames and solo queue games.

wingsofdeath is playing Jax right now with gunblade into trinity as well. The Jax build that has stabilized now with the latest Jax changes is pretty similar to the old pre-remake Jax in how hybrid offensive items are the core. Except now it isn't gunblade -> rageblade but gunblade -> trinity.

where.. the korean finals i saw was 2xdoran and trinity, into stinger(with exec. calling in 3rd game).. a nd the couple of foreign progames ive seen were 2xdoran into trinity..

and gunblade i honestly cant see how its good now. i mean bt offers an overall bigger dmg boost, and its lifesteal is more useful than the vamp on blade, + its FAR better value. it kind of seems like a "hipster" item that you get for style and to be cool, rather than raw power like BT
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 24 2012 10:26 GMT
#377
I dont really like hextech on jax but i think guinsoosnis a rly nice item i usually go boots/cloth into 1.2 dorans and depending on gameflow either rush trinity or takr guinsoos first
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
May 24 2012 15:06 GMT
#378
On May 24 2012 19:22 storkfan wrote:
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On May 24 2012 13:17 koreasilver wrote:
idk, I generally see gunblade before trinity in most of the Jax players I've come across these days, both in progames and solo queue games.

wingsofdeath is playing Jax right now with gunblade into trinity as well. The Jax build that has stabilized now with the latest Jax changes is pretty similar to the old pre-remake Jax in how hybrid offensive items are the core. Except now it isn't gunblade -> rageblade but gunblade -> trinity.

where.. the korean finals i saw was 2xdoran and trinity, into stinger(with exec. calling in 3rd game).. a nd the couple of foreign progames ive seen were 2xdoran into trinity..

and gunblade i honestly cant see how its good now. i mean bt offers an overall bigger dmg boost, and its lifesteal is more useful than the vamp on blade, + its FAR better value. it kind of seems like a "hipster" item that you get for style and to be cool, rather than raw power like BT

I didn't watch the OGN finals or much of the whole league so idk how Korean players have been building Jax. But most of the NA players that I've seen playing Jax lately like wingsofdeath, voyboy, and dyrus have gone gunblade first when I saw them play Jax.

I'm not even going to go on how fucking stupid the word "hipster" is when people use it, but regardless, going gunblade first on Jax really isn't strange at all as he is one of the very few champions that make full use of it.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 24 2012 16:43 GMT
#379
Post-6 Jax can win harass trades because he can time his last hitting to be able to proc R on Nasus even through Wither thanks to W, but in a full-fledged battle you need to have been ahead of him earlier or to abuse wither's cd before Nasus gets cdr or you'll just win initially, and then lose as he attacks 4 times faster than you.

Also, I don't like my lack of cc when I have to use E to approach an ad carry or compliment an engage, and Q to get to somebody (and generally I have to, as they won't let you stroll casually within striking distance). Caitlyn for exemple, with her huge range can just put a trap under herself, and use her net to get away when you jump her (even with your stun). Until Q is back you basically have nothing to reach her. Same thing in lane against opponents like GP, Riven, etc. the slow on gunblade allows you to catch up/get more hits in, which beats one sheen proc per trade everyday in my book.

Then again I'm a sucker for the "build resists and sustain to d- life" style, so I even build FH on him when I need armor.

I don't like rageblade because of its ramp-up time. I want to be effective from the get-go, not go into the "I destroy you... if you let me stick to you".
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
May 29 2012 07:05 GMT
#380
Is jax supposed to shit on renekton?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
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