EPT[Champion] Kassadin - Page 9
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
See notes  It shouldn't work with kassadin's auto-attack with w active based on how spell vamp normally works. But if it does work I'd say it would be an exception to the normal rules of spell vamp. Can someone test this for sure? o.o | ||
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HavokTheorem
New Zealand250 Posts
On December 28 2011 19:34 BlackPaladin wrote: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_vamp See notes It shouldn't work with kassadin's auto-attack with w active based on how spell vamp normally works. But if it does work I'd say it would be an exception to the normal rules of spell vamp. Can someone test this for sure? o.o I'll test it now. EDIT: Yes, nether blade definitely gives spell vamp healing. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
I FUCKING NEED HELP WITH THIS SHIT. SOMEONE WHOS SUPPOSE TO CRUSH PEOPLE. I CANT WIN VS ANYONE WITH THIS BITCH holy fuck just about everyone can shit on him early game and what are you suppose to do when you're down 20 cs? im also down in the 1300s and 1400s. HES FUCKING LOOKED AS A GOD BUT I CANT DO ANYTHING WITH HIM WTF | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On February 06 2012 12:48 Kenpachi wrote: any good VODs of Kassadin played well? I FUCKING NEED HELP WITH THIS SHIT. SOMEONE WHOS SUPPOSE TO CRUSH PEOPLE. I CANT WIN VS ANYONE WITH THIS BITCH holy fuck just about everyone can shit on him early game and what are you suppose to do when you're down 20 cs? im also down in the 1300s and 1400s. HES FUCKING LOOKED AS A GOD BUT I CANT DO ANYTHING WITH HIM WTF Every kassadin I've ever seen on the enemy team end up feeding my mid 0-6 pre-lvl6 and then building a mejai's and carrying anyway. :O The ones on my team feed and build mejai's too, but they just continue feeding.  | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
i dont knwo what im doing wrong. i cant do anything | ||
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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
they don't fully (if at all) exploit the window where kassadin is fucking GODLY. once you hit lvl 6 and get a hold of blue buff, you should be looking to exert an unreal amount of map control on the enemy team - ganking top/bottom/jungle/whatever. whenever i see kassadins fail it's because they just sit in lane for too long from levels 6-11 and don't abuse riftwalk's mobility and the unpredictable ganking paths that you can take (basically come from any direction) to gank. | ||
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DarkwindHK
Hong Kong343 Posts
Yes you may be ok if you get blue buff, but you cannot count on it. You need to have a plan B. Kassadin run out of mana VERY quickly as you must use lots of R to gank during lv 6~12 or you're doing it wrong. Usually you will not ont shot people like LeBlanc but you can chase people extremely well. This is why you must have at least one mana item if you cannot get blue 24/7. | ||
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Craton
United States17246 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Biggest mistake I see with people playing Kass is picking him into bad matchups. Unless the matchup is heavily in your favor, it's never a good idea to pick Kass imo. He gets screwed too easily in unfavorable matchups, especially since his Q is only 650 range now. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
Liek for opening you can go boots3 Maladay is good, Stinger maybe Gunblade? Seems pretty good with nether blade proccing spellvamp. Rageblade? Also pretty good Nashors? Now its actually pretty efficient, but you dont need the mana regen and 25%CDr is too much Normal AD Items? What boots? Zerkers are good damage, but CDR could be good or mercs for escape, I cant decide. I havent felt the need to build any mana on him at all really, as you get so much from just whacking creeps and not being an idiot and spamming riftwalk. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 24 2012 18:21 sob3k wrote: Ok, I'm bored and doing an AD Kassadin, BD all day long fun as hell. Not sure how to build him tho. Liek for opening you can go boots3 Maladay is good, Stinger maybe Gunblade? Seems pretty good with nether blade proccing spellvamp. Rageblade? Also pretty good Nashors? Now its actually pretty efficient, but you dont need the mana regen and 25%CDr is too much Normal AD Items? What boots? Zerkers are good damage, but CDR could be good or mercs for escape, I cant decide. I havent felt the need to build any mana on him at all really, as you get so much from just whacking creeps and not being an idiot and spamming riftwalk. last time I tried that i just built him tanky. atmogs with triforce to take advantage of his passive being a strong attack speed steroid+one of the highest (lategame) base AD in the game. his laning sucks really hard if you don't build AP tho. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On March 24 2012 19:00 Ryuu314 wrote: last time I tried that i just built him tanky. atmogs with triforce to take advantage of his passive being a strong attack speed steroid+one of the highest (lategame) base AD in the game. his laning sucks really hard if you don't build AP tho. Eh, I cant see the reason to be warmogs tanky, you shouldn't get into situations where you need that much health. I just played 3 games and did really well with Zerkers/Malady/Gunblade/Bveil. The Veil is cool because you just jump people with 2.2 second silence, then the veil blocks after thats over, its really strong on him because blinking around doesnt give anyone an opportunity to pop it before you engage. Also surge. People have been laning vs me really poorly though, letting me hit creeps gives me infinite mana and therefore infinite silences and harass. EDIT: The other nice thing about gunblade is that building Cutlass gives you the amazing unnerfed 15% lifesteal, which combined with W mana generation make you infinitely sustained. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On March 24 2012 19:00 Ryuu314 wrote: last time I tried that i just built him tanky. atmogs with triforce to take advantage of his passive being a strong attack speed steroid+one of the highest (lategame) base AD in the game. his laning sucks really hard if you don't build AP tho. big fan of bloodthirster -> tank on AD kassadin myself tbh | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On March 25 2012 02:51 Slayer91 wrote: By bloodthirster you mean wits end right? blood thirster then wits end bloodthirster es numero uno | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On March 24 2012 18:21 sob3k wrote: Ok, I'm bored and doing an AD Kassadin, BD all day long fun as hell. Not sure how to build him tho. Liek for opening you can go boots3 Maladay is good, Stinger maybe Gunblade? Seems pretty good with nether blade proccing spellvamp. Rageblade? Also pretty good Nashors? Now its actually pretty efficient, but you dont need the mana regen and 25%CDr is too much Normal AD Items? What boots? Zerkers are good damage, but CDR could be good or mercs for escape, I cant decide. I havent felt the need to build any mana on him at all really, as you get so much from just whacking creeps and not being an idiot and spamming riftwalk. I think you should read up on how damage to towers is calculated if you want a backdoor kass. With items like rageblade and gunblade either the AP or AD portion is wasted. Nashors is a good item as is BT, IE and crap. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On March 25 2012 09:44 ManyCookies wrote: Alright, I'm mildly interested. Which lane do you go to? What do you build after Gunblade? How do teamfights go? What's your late game plan? I've been going mid, because the silence ruins any chance of retaliation when you jump them. I've also been skilling R>W>Q>E, starting with Q. Going Cutlass also allows you to not put any points into E, because it provides the slow which is the only reason to get E, while ranks of Q are good for harass and more importantly the longer silence when you go in. Items are: Boots3 Zerkers/cutlass Malady Gunblade Bveil I've only got to latelate game once where I built GA and BT. I'm still not sure about items really after Cutlass malady, but that start is so good. GA is pretty cool because as long as you dont die with 5 ontop of you they wont catch you as you revive and blink away. In Lane you just try to last hit as best you can, and spam Q on every cooldown because you have infinite mana. You cant really trade reliably until after you get cutlass and some AS, but the second you get cutlass and 6 you can just play the lane like a complete douche and jump all over them, you trade really well and heal to full in one wave. Then you roam all over teh fucking map, ward their buffs and steal them and kill anyone who gets low. You can play super dangerous and push lanes. Teamfighting is careful, you are beast 1v1 and can take pretty much anyone, but you dont want to get into big fights. Just hang out back a bit and toss silences until you see an opportunity to go in without getting focused, or 1v1. The thing is its really easy to do this when you have free 4 second flash. You have mad deeps just have to be not kamikaze. Remember surge lasts for 12 second so just pop it whenever teamfight happens. Lategame I just split push like a motherfucker, impossible to catch you and you level towers and waves pretty fast. With 3 second silence you win like any 1v1, so they have to send a bunch of people to stop you. EDIT:+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Ovdqq.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iVNCj.png) | ||
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