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Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
June 29 2011 01:59 GMT
#21
On June 29 2011 07:25 SlayerSBriefS wrote:
karthus is a really good ap character if you know how to farm him well.




Press E
Pick Nose
Press E

doesn't seem very complicated.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 29 2011 02:56 GMT
#22
How do snowballing items fit in when playing vs. zombie karthus?
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
June 29 2011 02:59 GMT
#23
On June 29 2011 10:59 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 07:25 SlayerSBriefS wrote:
karthus is a really good ap character if you know how to farm him well.




Press E
Pick Nose
Press E

doesn't seem very complicated.


Landing Q in lane? Otherwise you're just gonna go into midgame with no farm and super denied zz.
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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
June 29 2011 03:40 GMT
#24
Standard EU build goes with RoA, I think the slightly more tanky build is really nice for karthus.

RoA->deathcap->void staff->banshee/rylai/zhoyna starting with dorans or boots, with flash+exhaust/tele/ignite depending what your team needs.

Soulstealer is pretty fail in any sort of serious/high level game too. ^^
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 29 2011 03:45 GMT
#25
I wouldn't get a soulstealer in some supersrs game but in solo queue I get it all the time and get 20 stacks easy.

1800~ elo us.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 29 2011 06:02 GMT
#26
i feel like karthus should always go top because he has the longest effective range ult in the game, so even if your teleport is down for a dragon fight, you can contribute

also i really don't like rylai's on him. cata->RoA->deathcap or just rush deathcap
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
June 29 2011 08:14 GMT
#27
Karthus is the best champion for solo Queue IMO... my match history proves it :f
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
June 29 2011 13:02 GMT
#28
Karthus is beast in soloqueue because he's the only champ that still deals absurd damage even if dead, doesn't even matter how retarded your team is you still kill everything.

I'm bad with the Q mechanic otherwise I'd play the fuck out of him :/
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:27:07
July 05 2011 19:24 GMT
#29
Gonna have enough ip for karth tonight, can't wait to try proto-Cass :D
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 13 2011 23:21 GMT
#30
Updated the guide a bit. Took out soulstealer (though it is a great pub stomper if you feel you're above the enemy team's skill level). I'm still building rylais, but I prioritize Deathcap 90% of the time. I'm still building tear over catalyst. I've tried going RoA but I dislike it.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 14 2011 01:53 GMT
#31
On August 14 2011 08:21 HazMat wrote:
Updated the guide a bit. Took out soulstealer (though it is a great pub stomper if you feel you're above the enemy team's skill level).


Every time the enemy team has Karthus in a normal 5v5, I cry a bit on the inside. He almost invariably racks up an obscene amount kills because people are dumb. There was this funny Karthus vs Karthus battle where some premades on my team were basically all suiciding to deal near fatal damage so Karthus could wipe out everyone. The carnage was unreal.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 14 2011 05:50 GMT
#32
Tear/Cata Revolver Deathcap infinite farm at the expense of imbadamage
actually infiniter farm at the expense of superwtfimbadamage
Also lets you take blue buff safer and solo dragon if you feel like it (lol).
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isM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States735 Posts
August 16 2011 02:53 GMT
#33
My karthus build starts sapphire, 2x hp pot, into Archangels, Magic pen Boots (can't think of name), Rod of Ages, Will of Ancients, Void Staff, Rabadon's. Pretty standard pub stomp build for me, as he is my favorite hero. I also take flash and clairvoyance so I can spot run aways to nuke.
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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
August 16 2011 02:58 GMT
#34
You should change this:
He is also great at clearing minion waves so lategame you can backdoor fairly well.


Backdooring is when you destroy a turret without minion support.
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illgottengains
Profile Joined July 2010
83 Posts
August 16 2011 03:40 GMT
#35
On June 28 2011 17:00 Crucifix wrote:
Uhm, I'm _never_ getting Rylais on Karthus as it's useless IMO. I go straight cata > soulstealer > rod > rabadon or cata > soulstealer > rabadon > archangel / void


Sorry but you have NO IDEA how awesome karthus is with rylais. If you get even one hit with lay waste you enemy is dead. One hit lay waste move in with defile up and continue to lay waste: there is no escape unless they turn and manage to kill you before they die.. which basically doesn't happen. Karthus becomes an incredible ganker and team-fighter with rylais at the mid to late game stages.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 16 2011 03:43 GMT
#36
On August 16 2011 11:58 clickrush wrote:
You should change this:
Show nested quote +
He is also great at clearing minion waves so lategame you can backdoor fairly well.


Backdooring is when you destroy a turret without minion support.

Meant solopush, fixed.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 16 2011 04:21 GMT
#37
Obviously Karthus belongs in the jungle, you ever seen his double buff gank? Shit is scary yo.

I meant to buy him a long time ago and then I quit... I should get back on that.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
August 16 2011 05:19 GMT
#38
I LOVE Karthus! :D I haven't played in a while besides one game a few days ago and went 12-3-11 lol. He rapes bad players so hard and is a handful even vs good team. I love going mid vs him and Q people to death who are retarded. Last game I played vs another Karth in mid who was really bad. I Q him to death 1st then 2nd time I Q him to like 100 hp right as I turned lvl 6 and BOOM. If the enemy team doesn't get any D items vs magic then they are fucked hard.
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 10:33:48
August 16 2011 10:31 GMT
#39
On June 29 2011 12:40 Goshawk. wrote:
Standard EU build goes with RoA, I think the slightly more tanky build is really nice for karthus.

RoA->deathcap->void staff->banshee/rylai/zhoyna starting with dorans or boots, with flash+exhaust/tele/ignite depending what your team needs.

Soulstealer is pretty fail in any sort of serious/high level game too. ^^


Hey, 2K ELO eu west karthus here (with about ~65% winrate with him, used to had 70 qq). I think this post sums up best what my build is. The reason you do NOT get tears is because you will be waaaaaaaaay to vulnerable to early ganks, cata is so much better early on. With no tears mana becomes a problem, you cannot spam E as much as you want and you have to use it carefully till you get blue. Once you have blue you can spam like a boss.

Also getting rilay is ... stupid sorry guys, it really is. The role of karthus is to deal shitloads of damage not to get hitpoints or a slow. With rilay you *might* be able to get some more solo kills but that is unlikely and that is not what karthus is meant for, you are a MASSIVE damage dealer in team fights. To do even more shitloads of damage you need deathcap.

To sum it up :

9/0/21 (obvious, with 2 points in +30% neutral buffs)
red mpen, yellow & blue ap per level, quint flat ap
start : boots + pot x3 (too dangerous to start sapphire against something like annie or brand with boots)
then catalyst -> mpen boots -> roa -> deathcap -> blue pot -> void staff -> depends (usually banshee but in some case you can build even more damage)
in some case you can get banshee before void staff
summoners : depends, but i get ignite most of the time when there is a healer in the opposite team

PS : the only downside of this build is that you do not want your blue buff stolen. if your team is pushed/hasn't got the advantage you will be very sad because of no blue. You will still have quite much mana with roa but you want be able to spam E infinitely, in this case rushing in and dying (in teamfights) is almost always the better option (don't run OOM ! smart players will just ignore you till your whole team is dead). Of course this is not meant to be played in a dual ap setup, if you're top and anivia is mid you will most likely need tears.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 16:54:43
August 16 2011 16:49 GMT
#40
I own with my Q as Karthus. I use it to farm magic minions while auto-attacking melee ones. I occasionally use it to chip away at the enemy champ in my lane. Brand and Caitlyn are your main worries in lane as they both out-range you. However, you can easily trick Brand into wasting mana by running back and forth while laning against him. I have two playstyles as Karthus.

1) You can't touch this. I use wall and E to prevent enemy champs from having much of a chance at killing me. I focus on map awareness, always letting teammates know when my ult is ready. I tend to rush AP as fast as possible if I can kill the enemy champ in my lane, otherwise I go for catalyst. If my teammates are pretty decent I'll consider a mejai's. I average around 3-5 deaths and significantly more kills and assists going this focus.

2) Kathus the dead Terrorist. Suicide bomber Karthus is so much fun. There's nothing like dropping a wall in the middle of a team fight, running in with your defile up, using a couple of Qs, and then ulting after you die. Which I follow up with "SILENCE! I KILL YOU!" when I get a double kill, mutliple assists, or better.

I always go for the magic pen boots. Map awareness is an absolute must with Karthus. Your ult is also good for dissuading enemy champs from chasing your teammates.

Champions with a built in flash/teleport are always troublesome for Karthus as your wall gives you 0 protection from them. Karthus' worst enemy is his own team. When you use your ult to pick off an enemy champ your teammates may try to initiate on other champs and end up getting themselves killed. A great Karthus can compensate for 1 bad teammate, 2 if you really excel at Karthus.
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