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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 05 2011 01:35 GMT
#101
I'm starting to think Ap Ez is legit. I'd win pretty much every game if my team didn't fucking scapegoat me.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 05 2011 02:22 GMT
#102
On September 03 2011 10:02 mufin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 06:44 spinesheath wrote:
On September 03 2011 04:26 mufin wrote:
On September 02 2011 18:47 spinesheath wrote:
On September 02 2011 17:50 mufin wrote:
-Why the fuck do ppl want to auto attack with ezreal? his range is shit and puts him way too close to a battle for it to be worth the hassle.

So you are saying that the only champs that should ever autoattack are:

Twitch (with Spray and Pray) 875
Kog'Maw (wth Bio-Arcane Barrage) 750
Tristana (Level 18) 712
Caitlyn 650
Annie 625
Anivia, Ashe, Zilean 600
Kennen 575

Possibly even less depending on where the cutoff between shit and good range is.



for an AD carry, range is EVERYTHING unless you have absurd amounts of utility which ez does not.

You claim that Vayne, MF, Corki, Sivir and Teemo are absolutely worthless because their autoattack range "is shit". All of those don't have better ways to stay safe while autoattacking than Ezreal. They don't even have reliable long range spell damage, except for Corki. Those champs must be REALLY bad.

If that alone is not enough of a reason for you to withdraw that statement I have nothing to add.


compared to caitlyn, trist, kog i would say so.


ezreal's range isnt that bad, wtf u smoking and can i have some?

o.O
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 05 2011 14:30 GMT
#103
On September 03 2011 08:36 clickrush wrote:
I dont play ez first but I really wonder about the ap vs ad thing here.

AD camp:

-better laneing phase
-better midgame
-better farm

AP camp:

-better AoE
-better lategame presence

then why not building him straightup hybrind leaning towards AP endgame?

going sth like flat AD marks and AP lvl glyphs, building sheen->gunblade->lichbane/deathcap->lichbane/deathcap and banshees if needed somewhere seams very reasonable according to your standpoints and his new doublescaling on ultimate.

If you worry about tanky-dps stacking then just dont pick him. Like you wouldnt pick akali for the same reason.


In theory it sound amazing.
In game, you end up being meh in both ap and ad side. Not worth it at all.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Qualm
Profile Joined December 2009
721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 15:18:56
September 05 2011 15:18 GMT
#104
On September 03 2011 08:36 clickrush wrote:
I dont play ez first but I really wonder about the ap vs ad thing here.

AD camp:

-better laneing phase
-better midgame
-better farm

AP camp:

-better AoE
-better lategame presence

then why not building him straightup hybrind leaning towards AP endgame?

going sth like flat AD marks and AP lvl glyphs, building sheen->gunblade->lichbane/deathcap->lichbane/deathcap and banshees if needed somewhere seams very reasonable according to your standpoints and his new doublescaling on ultimate.

If you worry about tanky-dps stacking then just dont pick him. Like you wouldnt pick akali for the same reason.


His Q doesn't proc spellvamp, otherwise Hybrid Ez would be really really good. (aka gunblade would turn your into Vladimir with more damage)
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 18:29:11
September 05 2011 18:20 GMT
#105
On September 06 2011 00:18 Qualm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 08:36 clickrush wrote:
I dont play ez first but I really wonder about the ap vs ad thing here.

AD camp:

-better laneing phase
-better midgame
-better farm

AP camp:

-better AoE
-better lategame presence

then why not building him straightup hybrind leaning towards AP endgame?

going sth like flat AD marks and AP lvl glyphs, building sheen->gunblade->lichbane/deathcap->lichbane/deathcap and banshees if needed somewhere seams very reasonable according to your standpoints and his new doublescaling on ultimate.

If you worry about tanky-dps stacking then just dont pick him. Like you wouldnt pick akali for the same reason.


His Q doesn't proc spellvamp, otherwise Hybrid Ez would be really really good. (aka gunblade would turn your into Vladimir with more damage)

Nvm...
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
September 05 2011 20:35 GMT
#106
His Q does, however, apply lifesteal which makes ad that much better.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 05 2011 20:40 GMT
#107
get gunblade anyway. if it works on panth, it will work on ez even more. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 06 2011 15:21 GMT
#108
Woo free Ez week, time to finally try him out. Is the guide on here alright for a new player to him, or is there a Solomid/Leaguecraft one you'd recommend?
It's your boy Guzma!
Frozenzen
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden97 Posts
September 06 2011 16:52 GMT
#109
I personally prefer running flash/clarity building boots/pots>dorans>sheen>phage>trinity>gunblade.

At this point add whatever is better against the team you are facing.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 06 2011 17:07 GMT
#110
I was under the impression that hybrid Ezreal isn't as good as AP or AD? How do you feel he does as a hybrid build?
It's your boy Guzma!
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
September 06 2011 17:45 GMT
#111
The guide here is good, you can also check out Chauster or CandyPanda's guide on Solomid. They all pretty much say the same thing (same core items, etc). If you're just starting out don't try any fancy shenanigans, just go for straight AD.

Please don't run clarity on Ezreal. Conserve your mana so you'll have enough for important engagements.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 06 2011 17:48 GMT
#112
Chauster was streaming quite a lot of AP ezreal play today, though he was playing normals and building a soulstealer ^_^ holy dang that dmg with 750 ap and lichbane
arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
September 06 2011 19:57 GMT
#113
On September 05 2011 10:35 HazMat wrote:
I'm starting to think Ap Ez is legit. I'd win pretty much every game if my team didn't fucking scapegoat me.


Ez is a brilliant AP for a decent player against poor opponents, ie trolling normals.

He doesn't have the range/cc/nuke to make him legit in real games though.
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PandaCore
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany553 Posts
September 07 2011 09:28 GMT
#114
Played Ezreal yesterday since he is in free week. Didn't do too bad, but not well enough.

I tried playing pure AD and it was pretty nice when the game was in your favor anyways. Last game I had a lot of trouble against a Caitlyn mid lane though, got zoned and harassed into oblivion :/

My biggest gripe is that his Q seems very narrow, so it's very easy to miss with it. I usually play Kennen and tried Ez because they're both kinda similar at parts. Still prefer Kennen because I somehow feel safer poking/harassing with him and I missed the stun.
I has a flavor
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
September 07 2011 09:37 GMT
#115
it's narrow, but also quite quick and has incredible range. AFAIK it's the longest basic poke ability outside of nid's spear.

I love playing him but it's really hard to do it for more than a couple of games. He's so dynamic, you have to be constantly re-positioning, dancing and landing repeatedly good skillshots, for really the whole game. The best feeling around is lining yourself up so you last hit a minion and your Q flies through where it just died and hits the guy hiding behind it who thought he was safe.


Out of interest, for more experienced players, when you build AD heavy (TF only for AP) do you use his W at all? If so, do you just use it for extra burst to nuke people, or fly it over a couple of team-mates for the buff?
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DH_Remorse
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark139 Posts
September 07 2011 10:37 GMT
#116
What should I get if i keep gettin hit hard by AD gankers ? What armor item works best for Ez? Hr.glass?
So what ,i just walk up to security and go: "Whats up bitches i'm huk!" or what... - HuK
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 07 2011 10:56 GMT
#117
Wriggle's Lantern.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
September 07 2011 11:50 GMT
#118
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 07 2011 18:37 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
it's narrow, but also quite quick and has incredible range. AFAIK it's the longest basic poke ability outside of nid's spear.

I love playing him but it's really hard to do it for more than a couple of games. He's so dynamic, you have to be constantly re-positioning, dancing and landing repeatedly good skillshots, for really the whole game. The best feeling around is lining yourself up so you last hit a minion and your Q flies through where it just died and hits the guy hiding behind it who thought he was safe.


Out of interest, for more experienced players, when you build AD heavy (TF only for AP) do you use his W at all? If so, do you just use it for extra burst to nuke people, or fly it over a couple of team-mates for the buff?


I very rarely use W, and often I don't level it untill quite late. Basically I use it purely to buff teammates in fights or when taking down a tower or something. The mana cost has ofcourse gone down so you're able to use it a bit more but with your only AP comming of TF it's just not worth the effort generally, unless you're facing a very AS heavy AD carry in which case the debuff can be usefull. I've been wanting to experiment with Ezreal mid starting out slightly AP'ish (perhaps with an early hextech and/or sheen, because that would make his W a pretty nice harassing tool. Have yet to do it tho =)
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 08 2011 02:50 GMT
#119
Man Ez is fun. I dunno about viability, but there's nothing like landing Q + R + Autos, then E'ing onto someone and finishing them off. Skillshots: holy crap.
It's your boy Guzma!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 08 2011 03:08 GMT
#120
Having at least 1 point in W is important for getting your passive stacked up.
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