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On November 18 2010 05:33 symbolic wrote:
So are you guys, who are having success, running solo or duo lane with her?
solo lane is best. you need farm to do well. Jungling works in a pinch but it puts you behind. I jungled against an Irelia in a duo lane with an identical build and she was fairly ahead of me at 10 minutes (had about 400 more gold than I did). Fortunately Tapioca wasn't on my team and she went more deeps while I went more tanky so I surpassed her in the end. But still solo lane Irelia is ideal. You can get incredible creep farm ezpz and I usually have a sheen + zeal/phage + boots by the time I first back.
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Caller, do you have a preferred Item order? OBV Trinity Force first, but what after?
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On November 18 2010 06:11 Cixah wrote:
Caller, do you have a preferred Item order? OBV Trinity Force first, but what after?
merc treads for lols
mallet
then depends on how the enemy is building
if enemy is heavy spellcaster, FoN
if enemy is heavy deeps, randuins, or if i'm bored, phantom dancer
if enemy is heavy tank, then I guess just grab some more attack speed. W shreds tanks like nothing.
Then I might get the other armor/mr item and finish with a guardian angel. Pop triple pots as necessary. You may see only 200 or so damage on your indicator, but you do such a silly amount of damage that it's not really indicative. You also end up with like 200 armor/mr and 3000+ HP. You can basically tank and kill anything at this point, and the game should be over pretty fast.
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why triforce + mallet? that sounds so stupid, lol.
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United States37500 Posts
Doran's Shield, Merc Treads, Zeal, Phage, Trinity, Stark's.
QEWWWR
You don't need a Mallet. You have a dash, stun/snare, and Trinity procs.
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Stop skipping rageblade, you baddies.
(still have no idea, it's actually not that good probably)
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alright I'm gonna buy her and experiment in some normal games with some of the builds you guys are listing.
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Equilibrium Strike (Her stun) has a 1:1 ratio on AP. With rage blade i was hitting people for ~600 after Trinity Force. The Added attack speed is nice too. Mallet costs too much, so it might be Trinity>Mercs>Rageblade. Followed by other items. Full stacks of Rageblade made her ult go AP based rather than AD based. (69 vs 65.05)
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Has anyone tried building her around ASpd for true damage spam?
Mostly I'm thinking about Starks and Malady. I wouldn't get PDancer for that since it's pretty expensive for the ASpd it gives, I dislike dodge, and crit isn't efficient unless you have some decent AD. Also keeping Wits End in mind if an opportunity arises. Maybe Stinger (and leave it at that for most of the game).
Survivability as necessary.
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On November 18 2010 06:20 Mogwai wrote:
why triforce + mallet? that sounds so stupid, lol.
because 80% slow lets you demolish people
in a truly tryhard game u probably dont need mallet but in a metagame with a lot of blinkers and ranged carries that run away its nice to have the extra unnecessary slow.
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On November 18 2010 07:28 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2010 06:20 Mogwai wrote:
why triforce + mallet? that sounds so stupid, lol. because 80% slow lets you demolish people in a truly tryhard game u probably dont need mallet but in a metagame with a lot of blinkers and ranged carries that run away its nice to have the extra unnecessary slow.
do they actually stack?
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On November 18 2010 07:29 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2010 07:28 Caller wrote:On November 18 2010 06:20 Mogwai wrote:
why triforce + mallet? that sounds so stupid, lol. because 80% slow lets you demolish people in a truly tryhard game u probably dont need mallet but in a metagame with a lot of blinkers and ranged carries that run away its nice to have the extra unnecessary slow. do they actually stack?
no but id rather have 100% chance for slow than 35% or whatever it is
i basically only get trinity force for the sheen proc and zeal
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if you don't use all of Triforce, it's not worth it. Investing over 1K above the base stats it provides on Frozen Mallet to up your chance from 50% to 100% seems really dumb imoimo.
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On November 18 2010 07:09 spinesheath wrote:
Has anyone tried building her around ASpd for true damage spam?
Mostly I'm thinking about Starks and Malady. I wouldn't get PDancer for that since it's pretty expensive for the ASpd it gives, I dislike dodge, and crit isn't efficient unless you have some decent AD. Also keeping Wits End in mind if an opportunity arises. Maybe Stinger (and leave it at that for most of the game).
Survivability as necessary.
Malady shreds magic resist. You're dealing true damage.
What? If you want aspd, go SotD or something.
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On November 18 2010 07:36 Mogwai wrote:
if you don't use all of Triforce, it's not worth it. Investing over 1K above the base stats it provides on Frozen Mallet to up your chance from 50% to 100% seems really dumb imoimo.
its okay you have so much money from ezpz farm
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Played against her, she seemed to always eat me (Garen) for breakfast. Not really sure why, I just couldn't beat her somehow.
We still won (WW just started excusively targeting her for his nom and we focused her down), but damn, if someone's playing her right, she's a scary scary champ.
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England2665 Posts
Just playing her a bit, item builds are all over the place but the following:
From what I can see, Trinity Force is really good. All the stats are pretty useful and the slow can help. Most importantly, consider the following: E -> Sheen proce, Q -> Sheen Proc, W -> Sheen Proc -> R -> Sheen Procx4. I think Trinity force is a really good way to go. Rageblade seemed to work well for me, as did Starks. I won my last game, but it was very ganky and not much in the way of team-fights, so bear that in mind.
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On November 18 2010 09:52 Flicky wrote:
I won my last game, but it was very ganky and not much in the way of team-fights, so bear that in mind.
Isn't that the point though? In team fights find a squishy and squish it.
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Hot damn, I fucking love Irelia. On no other character would I be able to pull this off:
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hmhm haven't seen a very demolishing one on EU yet, most were breakfast, some were solid, but nothing to be afraid of^^
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