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On June 19 2011 06:18 Boundless wrote:
I play Irelia quite a bit around the 2000 ELO level in ranked, and I'm not a huge proponent of the trinity force first build... She's a really item dependent champion, and since I like to play a mobile style, I often don't get the farm I need to justify trinity force...
Generally I'll go dorans shield, level 1 boots and Rageblade before I even think about grabbing Sheen or trinity force... I run 11/18/1 masteries with Ignite/Ghost. This build has a much better midgame, especially if you're in a difficult lane or your team has a difficult start.
If I get the chance, I'll write a small [G] for this alternate style, since it's been pretty successful so far at my ELO.
just so we're clear, post it in this thread, dont make a new one for just a guide. All guides are expected to be posted in each champ thread
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Took it down since so many had problems with it.
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Got a Penta kill on my first game ever on Irelia, standard lantern>triforce build i suppose in lane...
it was love at first sight with her.
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On June 24 2011 17:02 Ordained wrote:
I wanted to try my hand at writing a guide and who better to start with than my absolute favorite champion, Irelia.
Why wouldn't you get an early philostone? Helps a ton in lane and basically pays for it self. Also, I personally don't see why you would take 21 in ultility as Irelia, she really doesn't need CDR/Buffduration/Summoner CDs/Manareg that badly, where as defense makes a you a lot tankier in lane and gives you more dominance and also gives you more tankyness for teamfights. The masteries are personal preference tho.
What doesn't fit is your itembuild, philostone > trinity > tankyness is standard on her for a reason. In most games you can't afford to get another DPS item after trinity without getting blown up instantly and she doesn't scale too well with DPS items other than Trinity anyways. While Ghostblade is debatable as a luxury items Infinity Edge and Black Cleaver are definiately not good choices on her. Guardian Angel/Force of Nature/Randuins/Shurelias are all good tanky options after trinity depending on the game.
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By the way, my current Irelia build: Start with regrowth pendant -> Philo stone + HoG + boots 1 -> Wits End -> Merc Treads.
Those are the core items, after that you get this stuff as needed: FoN, Randuins, Trinity Force, Thornmail, Shurelyas Reverie, Starks, etc.
If you're doing well on your lane, it's good to go Triforce instead of Wits End but Wits End is a lot safer and is more of a sustain-type of a build. The reason I prefer that over Triforce rush now is partially because Wits End gives far more mres now, and partially because her R doesn't allow her to instaheal so the extra mres is super useful on most lanes.
Of course, if they don't have any magic damage you couldn't use this reasoning but mostly on EU it's a Vlad or Swain or something on top vs you.
Spirit Visage is an allright choice I guess, but FoN just gives her way more movespeed and mres and regen so I don't like it so much anymore.
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On June 24 2011 20:35 Shikyo wrote:
By the way, my current Irelia build: Start with regrowth pendant -> Philo stone + HoG + boots 1 -> Wits End -> Merc Treads.
Considering you are aiming for Triforce mid-late game, how come you don't get early Sheen?
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he doesn't aim for mid game Triforce, it's a situational way to increase his burst lategame. what he gave is a pretty typical EU style of Irelia that focuses more on tanking out earlier and playing for sustained damage output rather than bursting in mid game teamfights. When you're running into double AP carry every game, if you're running irelia on one of your solos, you can't afford to build towards her burst early because she's too short range and will just get eaten up by the AoE of the typical EU double AP configurations, so instead you need to tank quickly and basically the best way to spec for her damage at the same time as tanking vs. double AP is to get Wit's End ASAP to survive the burst and then clean house after their frontloaded damage has been dropped.
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Or be like me and Pstone -> Belt gogo.
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I started this thread because I was interesting in Irelia when she was a new champion. I do not, however, play her, and I don't spend much time on these boards anymore. This seems like a disservice to the forum, doubly so because she's a relatively strong champion.
Can an admin let someone else edit the OP to make it more useful? If not, someone else (who actually knows Irelia) should create a new, better thread for her, in my opinion.
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On June 26 2011 12:58 oberon wrote:
I started this thread because I was interesting in Irelia when she was a new champion. I do not, however, play her, and I don't spend much time on these boards anymore. This seems like a disservice to the forum, doubly so because she's a relatively strong champion.
Can an admin let someone else edit the OP to make it more useful? If not, someone else (who actually knows Irelia) should create a new, better thread for her, in my opinion.
This is why I am against people making the OP for a champ thread before they actually play them. GG
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On June 28 2011 14:52 Ordained wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 12:58 oberon wrote:
I started this thread because I was interesting in Irelia when she was a new champion. I do not, however, play her, and I don't spend much time on these boards anymore. This seems like a disservice to the forum, doubly so because she's a relatively strong champion.
Can an admin let someone else edit the OP to make it more useful? If not, someone else (who actually knows Irelia) should create a new, better thread for her, in my opinion. This is why I am against people making the OP for a champ thread before they actually play them. GG
And your suggestion for where discussion on a just released champion should be is...?
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General discussion or patch notes thread.
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Well to be fair, even if people who know their champs make threads, there's no guarantee that said people will always care about LoL, thus untended OP's are bound to happen. The forum format isn't ideal for this sort of thing.
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On July 13 2011 13:05 myopia wrote:
Well to be fair, even if people who know their champs make threads, there's no guarantee that said people will always care about LoL, thus untended OP's are bound to happen. The forum format isn't ideal for this sort of thing.
The problem is that most of the untended OP's are from people who just want spotlight for a few weeks and make a boring champ thread just to get their name attached. This has happened for the past 3 champions now. This forum is slowly going down the gutter. We need more moderators.
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I agree, but I think it's not the end of the world when threads such as this are made. When I was researching Irelia, I pretty much read all 17 pages of this thread and learned a lot more doing so than just reading a solid OP.
There's only a handful of OP champ threads that are actually very good. The Jarvan one being a good example. There's champ threads that aren't even around when it should, such as a Tristana thread.
In any case, I view champ threads as more specific information that posters can write and ask questions about. The OP is just the cherry on the top.
Getting back to Irelia, I think I need a new build. Triforce takes way too long and while I am building one, Irelia is just a piñata. Perhaps, I should just build Sheen then hold off on Triforce for a Randuin/FoN?
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I'm really enjoying Chaox's new Irelia build as I've had some pretty good games with her with the new build which is basically R>W>Q>E, no HoG, phage before sheen and going GA after trinity. Really makes a lot of sense when you think about it because not only does maxing hiten style give her a little more sustained dps from the true damage and lane sustainability from the passive, it also will increase her burst because bladesurge's attack adds on hiten style's true damage. It makes her more of a terror in lane than maxing E and then sheen be the first part of triforce because she sustains in lane better which she needs from the recent nerfs. The GA helps with midgame because thats where her damage is greatest since she really falls off lategame damage wise.
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On June 28 2011 14:52 Ordained wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 12:58 oberon wrote:
I started this thread because I was interesting in Irelia when she was a new champion. I do not, however, play her, and I don't spend much time on these boards anymore. This seems like a disservice to the forum, doubly so because she's a relatively strong champion.
Can an admin let someone else edit the OP to make it more useful? If not, someone else (who actually knows Irelia) should create a new, better thread for her, in my opinion. This is why I am against people making the OP for a champ thread before they actually play them. GG
I think we should just not have guides in the OP, which one actually ends up there is totally random and gains undue prominence...
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On July 13 2011 16:38 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 14:52 Ordained wrote:On June 26 2011 12:58 oberon wrote:
I started this thread because I was interesting in Irelia when she was a new champion. I do not, however, play her, and I don't spend much time on these boards anymore. This seems like a disservice to the forum, doubly so because she's a relatively strong champion.
Can an admin let someone else edit the OP to make it more useful? If not, someone else (who actually knows Irelia) should create a new, better thread for her, in my opinion. This is why I am against people making the OP for a champ thread before they actually play them. GG I think we should just not have guides in the OP, which one actually ends up there is totally random and gains undue prominence...
I absolutely disagree, if the OP is competent at all he puts into his post all of the guides that were posted further in his thread and honestly - why would you NOT want to have all the guides in 1. post. Forcing people to look for guides isn't too good.
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Seems like all good irelias going W max now, the lane sustain is really important with the influx is so many strong laners now.
Trinity-->GA lacks a LOT of magic resist though most people pick up a least a wits end if not a fon as well. Fon randuins gives you movement speed a slow which are the main things you get trinity force for. Trinity is still good though, but they are ways to skip it and not be too worried. Against only 1 AP I can see it working fine, though.
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Chaox new build delays FoN/Randuin for a GA? -___-
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