trade auto attacks until you bait your opponent into using skills on you. the MICROSECOND your hp% drops below theirs, E->W->attack->attack->attack->Q->back off (or Q first if they're ranged). prioritizing E means that from level 5 onwards your burst is doing 1/3+ of their life. assuming you took ignite and are level 6+, you can reliably get kills from like 60% life, more if you have sheen.

if you're talking about tips for DEALING with lane harassment, just never use Q on a creep unless you absolutely can't reach the creep with an auto. your regen from W should be enough to shrug off auto attacks. if they're a skill spammer like ryze then you need to either (a) pack potions or (b) counter harass to force them to back off. but against someone like ashe/cait i just farm and ignore them til i have enough for sheen, then kill them in 1 hit

starfries

Canada3508 Posts

April 25 2011 03:52 GMT

#264

Can you lifesteal/spell vamp off the true damage from W?

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

April 25 2011 03:58 GMT

#265

On April 25 2011 12:52 starfries wrote:
Can you lifesteal/spell vamp off the true damage from W?

No.
Also, AFAIK, your Q does apply the passive from your W (it heals you).

Fawkes

Canada1935 Posts

April 25 2011 15:50 GMT

#266

Hmmm...I usually run ghost/flash to get in and get out fast throughout the entire game. How do other people feel about taking ignite to dominate your lane even further than having another escape/chase mechanic?

BloodNinja

United States2791 Posts

April 25 2011 15:56 GMT

#267

Chaox Irelia guide:

http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=720

Any thoughts on his build from Irelia players? I don't play Irelia, but the leveling Q before W seemed strange to me. It seems like W would be much more useful as we are still in a fiarly tanky meta.

Navi

5286 Posts

April 25 2011 16:03 GMT

#268

by that level your r should be more than sufficient for heal, and the extra burst / cd from q (since u get both the damage increase is much more significant) is more useful in teamfights. same should go for lane unless you going against something super tanky or sustained with hp

BlackPaladin

United States9316 Posts

April 25 2011 20:31 GMT

#269

Hey look, 0-9-21. Sup.

BloodNinja

United States2791 Posts

April 25 2011 20:38 GMT

#270

On April 26 2011 01:03 Navi wrote:
by that level your r should be more than sufficient for heal, and the extra burst / cd from q (since u get both the damage increase is much more significant) is more useful in teamfights. same should go for lane unless you going against something super tanky or sustained with hp

So I got some time to watch the videos and in the second one he goes R>W>E>Q agaisnt a renek lane but I dont remember their teamcomp being overly tanky. Which kind of fits what you were saying.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

April 26 2011 00:35 GMT

#271

I like apen/mp5/mres/mspd, but runes for Irelia are largely preference. I think getting another level of Q at lv3 is important because it allows you to Q last hit ranged minions that have taken a tower hit, can't do that with just one level of Q. I like the MP5 because vs a lot of ranged heroes you need to Q last hit early. Not sure why Chaox is so obsessed with regen items, the 15% cdr from shurelias is nice but it delays triforce too much. I like Neo's view on banshee vs fon and skill leveling. I usually get banshees over fon anyway because of the extra health/mana. Irelia can straight up kill almost every hero in lane after lv6 as long as you have enough space to chase a bit. Pre-6 it's best to just lasthit and keep your health/mana up. I like cloth + 5 pots except when you know you'll be facing an AP champ. You can build the cloth into wriggles but I'm not sure how efficient that is. Early sheen > all especially vs squishies. Irelia is the #1 hero that looks like it takes skill to play but really doesn't. You just have to be ultra aggressive and have more farm/be higher lvl than everyone else. If you're ever behind as Irelia you're basically useless.

starfries

Canada3508 Posts

April 26 2011 06:16 GMT

#272

What's the best way to get CDR on her? I always feel like my Q and E take forever to come back up during a teamfight, and with the Randuin's nerf I don't get to that Irelia godmode that happened so quickly before.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

April 26 2011 06:30 GMT

#273

On April 25 2011 12:58 Scipaeus121212 wrote:

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No.
Also, AFAIK, your Q does apply the passive from your W (it heals you).

Q has a seperate blink attack and one autoattack. It of course procs sheen, any on-hit effects, and the true dmg from W since its a normal attack. one Q also gives 2 stacks of guinsoo.

Fawkes

Canada1935 Posts

April 26 2011 13:34 GMT

#274

On April 26 2011 15:16 starfries wrote:
What's the best way to get CDR on her? I always feel like my Q and E take forever to come back up during a teamfight, and with the Randuin's nerf I don't get to that Irelia godmode that happened so quickly before.

SV?

PBC

167 Posts

May 01 2011 05:52 GMT

#275

oh my god. irelia is a monster. bursts like a tank and will never die.

build is as follows

Triforce , Frozen Mallet, Merc Threads, Banshee's Veil, Atmas and optional sixth (between randuins, FoN or madreds )

The Triforce is almost a necessity on Irelia. gives everything she needs (HP, attack damage, sheen boost, zeal movespeed, phage sloiw)
Frozen mallet for the soft CC and HP
Merc Threads + her passive makes her anti-CC in teamfights. makes you able to target and burst squishies like a CHAMP
Banshee;s is almost a necessity on everychamp. blocks 1 negative spell every minute or so. cannot be replaced
atma's will give armor and boost her attack damage a LOT (triforce + frozen mallet + BV)

The sixth item is optional. for Magic heavy teams buy a FoN for ridiculous regen
For HP heavy teams get a Madreds (combine this with Hiten style you will MELT tanks)
For added attack damage (atmas) and more armor build a randuins

in lane phase last hit like a champ. you'll lane forever off the lifesteal on your hiten style. Dont go back until you can comfortably buy either Phage/Sheen and Boots. Once you hit level 6 you can easily burst down any champ. Initiate with your Q and use Equilibrium strike. That will slow as well as bring the enemy to half health. use your W for added True damage. If you feel like you're about to die use your ult on creep waves to heal up. rinse repeat

PBC

167 Posts

May 01 2011 05:53 GMT

#276

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

May 03 2011 16:54 GMT

#277

Triforce + Mallet is awful.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

May 03 2011 17:10 GMT

#278

169 minions 41mins. o_o

But yes it's incredibly easy to pwn noobs with irelia, that build isn't too optimal though

I prefer the Chaox Triforce -> FoN -> Randuin -> one tanky item and one dps item

Tooplark

United States3977 Posts

May 03 2011 17:49 GMT

#279

On May 01 2011 14:53 PBC wrote:
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yeah you're just demonstrating that triforce/mallet is better than Hexdrinker Shen, Hexdrinker Alistar, PD/Cleaver Xin, PD/LW/noIE Ashe and RoA/Rylai Blitzcrank. Or maybe just that Irelia > noobs.

broz0rs

United States2294 Posts

May 17 2011 15:51 GMT

#280

I understand tanky Irelia is optimal, but are there any opinions on Irelia adding more AP to her build to maximize the damage of E and R? The idea I have in mind is similar to the current Jax build. Thoughts please!