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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 08 2011 16:26 GMT
#221
On March 09 2011 01:22 Mogwai wrote:
dun worry guys, I have it from Grackis that Irelia is not OP.

Funny how all the people who dont go for an early Trifoce say she's not OP...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
March 09 2011 17:50 GMT
#222
Irelia, in a nutshell: R>W>E>Q.
Merc Treads, Triforce, tank items, rape.
Shadow of his former self.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
March 09 2011 20:38 GMT
#223
I wish this thread had a real OP.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 09 2011 20:43 GMT
#224
So I've noticed jiji does 0-15-15 for masteries and gets hog/sv no matter what and especially vs tough champions to solo vs, thoughts? 0-9-21 has worked pretty well for me and I usually just try to get a sheen asap and often skip sv completely.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
March 09 2011 20:48 GMT
#225
I agree. I haven't made sv on her ever... early sheen makes her harass so much better, you can get most solo champs to less than half hp with just a couple of q-e combos
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 22:02:40
March 09 2011 22:01 GMT
#226
From what i've seen there are (actually used to be 1+ month ago, back when noone banned her) 2 most popular Irelia builds:
EU build of "max W first and go for attack speed items" (aka the "Irelia actually is not imba" build)
and US build of "max W last and go for crazy e+q burst improved by triforce -> tank" (aka "MUST BAN IRELIA" build)
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
March 09 2011 22:04 GMT
#227
On March 10 2011 07:01 Kaniol wrote:
From what i've seen there are (actually used to be 1+ month ago, back when noone banned her) 2 most popular Irelia builds:
EU build of "max W first and go for attack speed items" (aka the "Irelia actually is not imba" build)
and US build of "max W last and go for crazy e+q burst improved by triforce -> tank" (aka "MUST BAN IRELIA" build)


Isn't that EU build the same as jungle build?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 09 2011 22:06 GMT
#228
On March 10 2011 07:04 Glacierz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 07:01 Kaniol wrote:
From what i've seen there are (actually used to be 1+ month ago, back when noone banned her) 2 most popular Irelia builds:
EU build of "max W first and go for attack speed items" (aka the "Irelia actually is not imba" build)
and US build of "max W last and go for crazy e+q burst improved by triforce -> tank" (aka "MUST BAN IRELIA" build)


Isn't that EU build the same as jungle build?


Yep. Wriggles -> wits end is the main thing in that build and it has good sustained dps but it's definitely not as good as trinity -> tank.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 09 2011 22:23 GMT
#229
sword of the occult on irelia
trust me
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 02:27:15
March 10 2011 02:27 GMT
#230
On March 10 2011 07:04 Glacierz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 07:01 Kaniol wrote:
From what i've seen there are (actually used to be 1+ month ago, back when noone banned her) 2 most popular Irelia builds:
EU build of "max W first and go for attack speed items" (aka the "Irelia actually is not imba" build)
and US build of "max W last and go for crazy e+q burst improved by triforce -> tank" (aka "MUST BAN IRELIA" build)


Isn't that EU build the same as jungle build?


Maxing W first, then E is still quite the burst, specially by using W+Q. She just tears people apart.
Shadow of his former self.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 10 2011 17:58 GMT
#231
I tried W max and wit's end yesterday because I had to jungle irelia. never doing that shit again, jesus christ does it suck. triforce too good on her.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
March 10 2011 19:44 GMT
#232
Don't jungle with her. Always lane.
And btw, rushing sheen on jungle isn't bad.
Shadow of his former self.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 10 2011 19:45 GMT
#233
The only question when someone wants to jungle as Irelia i have is: "Jungle who?"

Why delay her godmode?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 10 2011 19:57 GMT
#234
well, it's because I was trying to prevent our Kass and Sniperness from ragefeeding by letting them both have solos. then they had a dickmeasuring contest over mid and played duo mid so it ended up being a worthless sacrifice on my part anyway T_T.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 10 2011 22:46 GMT
#235
2 things
how do you feel about mana crystal + 2 pot open on her for superfast sheen + more mana to Q with?

is teemo a viable counterpick to irelia? i feel like if teemo sits in his creeps and hits you twice + a Q every time you Q a creep, he'll win the lane. if you try to fight he blinds you and kites you. shrooms prevent you from comboing him at 6 or 7 and save him from ganks. what say you?
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 11 2011 00:26 GMT
#236
yea, I think teemo hard counters her in lane tbh. teemo #1 attrition ranged carry.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 11 2011 05:56 GMT
#237
When you're about to combo someone is it best to W before Q/E so your sheen proc has W also?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 11 2011 15:49 GMT
#238
sheen proc gains nothing from using W there. I save my W so that I can use it to get an extra sheen proc later in the fight.

like, Q -> E -> autoattack -> W will typically net you 2 sheen procs (1 off the Q, 1 off the W)

if you just faceroll W -> Q -> E -> autoattack, you'll only get 1 sheen proc, but you will get 2 extra W procs (Q and autoattack).

now that I'm looking at that though, W first probably makes sense as soon as you have 2 or 3 points in it, since a sheen proc really only grants you an extra 50-80ish damage (depending on level) which is affected by armor whereas a level 2 W getting 2 extra procs gives you an extra 60 true damage. So as soon as you have level 2 W, it's probably in your best interests to just faceroll W -> Q -> E even though it doesn't proc sheen as often.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 20 2011 18:23 GMT
#239
Thoughts on maxing W before Q or E in lane? Or Q > W = E?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 20 2011 18:27 GMT
#240
On April 21 2011 03:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Thoughts on maxing W before Q or E in lane? Or Q > W = E?

Maxing W first is horrible.

You need the better E duration, that's for sure. Bladesurge also is almost useless in any teambattle before it's rank 5 because of how the cd scaling works. That's why, although maxing W might seem tempting, you're going to have to max Q second and are left with a trashy E.

Maxing W would be ok if you didn't need max Q and E as soon as possible. As is, they're too important. If you do max W, then for the love of god max Q second and leave E at rank 1.
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