EPT[Champion] Shen - Page 20
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On February 20 2012 01:00 Chexx wrote: the last WW I played on top plane did not stand a chance. I Just zoned him out from the beginning. The only problem I had was a Gangplank who parleyed me everytime and critted me quite hard TT with his jungler help he beated me in lane. Never played a Xin before honestly 90% of the solo top WWs at the moment are total derps. it's not that hard to beat shen with WW, yet I still people doing stupid shit like getting chalice -> SV or something. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 22 2012 01:02 Mogwai wrote: honestly 90% of the solo top WWs at the moment are total derps. it's not that hard to beat shen with WW, yet I still people doing stupid shit like getting chalice -> SV or something. How does one beat shen with WW? Just curious in case the situation calls for it. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On February 22 2012 01:11 Two_DoWn wrote: How does one beat shen with WW? Just curious in case the situation calls for it. have a defensive rune spec (preferably heavy on the MRes), something like 14/15/1 for masteries and then just open cloth -> wriggle's + wit's (just go straight wit's first if he lets you) and just attack him whenever he wants to fight you. if you build to hit people with your claws, Shen can't trade favorably with you, especially since you heal up on creeps better. new WW is such a ridiculous champion, no idea why they wanted to give him so much free damage. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
What item path do you go after HoG > boots1? Phage or something? Or build more resistances with Aegis/Wit's/Randuin's? | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
- Stacks HP - Not enough sustain - Can't push | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 22 2012 01:18 Doctorbeat wrote: How does one go about jungling him after the patch? What item path do you go after HoG > boots1? Phage or something? Or build more resistances with Aegis/Wit's/Randuin's? Wriggles wits is your core. Feel free to intersperce Hog, Phage, or any other early mitigation you might want, but wriggles wits is generally your aim before gettin real tanky. And ya smash, that is the one thing I noticed about new WW- no one can trade with you anymore. Damage just too big. | ||
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Sven Stryker
United States423 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
General Base armor reduced to 19 from 23 Vorpal Blade health scaling lowered to 1.5% from 2% Feint Energy cost increased to 50 from 40 at all levels Base shield value reduced to 70/115/160/205/250 from 70/120/170/220/270 Fixed a few bugs with ability sounds So Riot overbuffs Shen's damage and leaves him still energy starved and their first thought to fix this is to further increase his energy costs? | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
On February 22 2012 07:07 arnath wrote: From the PBE notes for today: So Riot overbuffs Shen's damage and leaves him still energy starved and their first thought to fix this is to further increase his energy costs? Hit a tuant and you have all your energy back. he doesn't really have energy problems, and i've played him quite a bit this week, ahlthought at 1200elo still climbing up, have about 88% winrate with him. Udyr totally rapes him though, in lane I now love playing as shen and against him :D start boots 4pots, into armour or mr boots, Usually i get an Aegis right away then build wits end, Aegis really helps with the Ulti into team fights | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Synthesis
Canada167 Posts
On February 22 2012 01:16 Mogwai wrote: have a defensive rune spec (preferably heavy on the MRes), something like 14/15/1 for masteries and then just open cloth -> wriggle's + wit's (just go straight wit's first if he lets you) and just attack him whenever he wants to fight you. if you build to hit people with your claws, Shen can't trade favorably with you, especially since you heal up on creeps better. new WW is such a ridiculous champion, no idea why they wanted to give him so much free damage. How about if the Shen doesn't actually ever commit to fighting you and just spams you down with vorpal/ki strikes pokes? I tried out the above build in a custom and if the Shen just plays semi-passive and pokes you down with vorpal / ki strikes, shields if you q, and then backs off, it did way more damage than I could regen with autos. If I tried to Q much I'd just run out of mana from starting cloth. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
There are a bunch of summoners that could work on him, some combination of flash/ghost/heal/exhaust/ignite depending on how you want to play him. At higher elo i've seen flash ignite commonly, same masteries. Taking mpen and cdr, although aspd and arpn also sound nice with ki strike. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On February 23 2012 04:44 Dgiese wrote: Oh, I was not aware of that. No reason to run Arpen then. I'd been running Mpen anyway, so now I feel even better about my choice I typically run a 14/15/1 spec for ArPen and MPen. Those higher tier defensive masteries just don't turn me on and I'd rather have that lategame dual penetration. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
Although he was most kills etc on his team, it still seemed like a really shitty build. Sure he was tanky, but his damage came really late, and he had no Aspeed until zeal (and triforce. I mean c'mon, where was the wits end? especially against double AP. I just don't think I'm sold on warmogs Shen. I built it earlier today, and yeah it made me tanky as all hell, and is really nice with his HP scaling abilities, but I just feel like mallet provides a bunch more utility, and you're often tanky enough with wits, defensive boots 2, and atma's / aegis. | ||
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